mtaylor Posted February 14, 2014 #31 Posted February 14, 2014 Elvis sang that? I thought it was Frank Sinatra.... <sigh> Seriously.. you're the Captain, build it your way. That is one of our tenets here. harvey1847, WackoWolf and 42rocker 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
harvey1847 Posted February 14, 2014 #32 Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah Ray! dO IT your way! what the hek! sicerously after reading your post I have felt kind of ashame from the last post I wrote down. Who we are to judge you or your model skills? Sorry about that. I guess sometimes we all go pretty dramatic here. You have done much more work in a week than others - like me - in a month. some pics of the process would be very appreciated. I mean the sanding of a single frame i.e. best wishes Aaaaand dooo iiiit yooour Waaaaay! daniel. justsayrow and WackoWolf 2 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
ziled68 Posted February 14, 2014 Author #33 Posted February 14, 2014 Hola Daniel, I could not help but smile at your response. I was able to picture you singing the last part. I've been pretty busy this morning at work but when I get more frames done I will document how I work on each frame. harvey1847 1 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ziled68 Posted February 15, 2014 Author #34 Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Greetings to all,Since I had to work today I was not able to get much done on the Triton. I was able to buy more timber and finish my jig for her reusing materials for the jig I made for my Vietnamese Junk. Since she is only a cross section, the jig seems small in comparison to jigs other people use while conducting full builds. The following photos will show you what it looks like and how the Triton fits within it. Edited February 15, 2014 by ziled68 42rocker, mij, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ziled68 Posted February 16, 2014 Author #35 Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) I was able to complete the stack set up for my remaining frames, apply the pattern to them, and cut them on my band saw. I then roughly sanded them with my rotary tool just barely getting to the line so that I can truly fare them once they are together. I dry fitted them them on the keel within my jig to see how they look. If you notice, I still have to give frames 4, 5, and 7 its preliminary sanding before I can procede to treenail them. Edited February 16, 2014 by ziled68 mij, WackoWolf, Pete38 and 1 other 4 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
Pete38 Posted February 16, 2014 #36 Posted February 16, 2014 Frames are looking really nice, Looking forward to more pics Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
ziled68 Posted February 17, 2014 Author #37 Posted February 17, 2014 Today I’ve managed to take the Triton out of its jig in order to start sanding the inside and outside. I used a sanding stick to work on the outside hull and was quite pleased at how quickly it faired the outside. When I turned my attention to the inside hull, I realized that the straight edge of my sanding stick was causing it to leave gouge marks. I then decided to make a new sanding stick with a ½” PVC pipe I had left over from a plumbing job I did at the house. I’ve come to the conclusion that a straight edge sanding stick is good for the outside moving it fore to aft, and the PVC pipe sanding stick is good for the inside moving it port to starboard along the frames. I’ve also managed to place and treenail the keelson down, add the gun port’s sill and trestle, and am currently working on the wales. The following pictures will show you how she’s coming along. WackoWolf, mtaylor, justsayrow and 4 others 7 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
Matrim Posted February 18, 2014 #38 Posted February 18, 2014 I like the sanding sticks which seem to have done a nice job for you on an unpleasant build task- though would have to think before using them on a full build in case I lost some of the curve of the hull. Then again thinking about it maybe they wouldn't. Hmmm needs to think more ...
mij Posted February 18, 2014 #39 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi Raymond She`s coming along well, I like your determination. mij xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
harvey1847 Posted February 18, 2014 #40 Posted February 18, 2014 Nice and Clear Raymond! First thing I have thought has been where you must be to be wearing short trousers... We are chilling here! Now the fun stuff start! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
ziled68 Posted February 19, 2014 Author #41 Posted February 19, 2014 Thanks to everyone for your kind words. Matrim, The sanding sticks was just something I thought would help me fair the hulls and it only made sense to use something round to fair the inside. Of course there are different possibilities. Mij, Just think of me as a Rat-Terrier. Once I get a hold of something I won't be happy until she's done. Daniel, It was a warm day out in Arizona with temperatures getting up to 87 degrees farenheit (30 degrees celcius). Once you start sanding it seems the temperature gets higher. Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ziled68 Posted February 20, 2014 Author #42 Posted February 20, 2014 Greetings to all, Sadly there isn't much progress to report, but that only means that there is a little bit to report. I've managed to paint the wales black and am pretty glad at how the weight is evenly distributed along the cross section. If you notice the second picture, you can see that she is balancing herself on her keel. The last picture will show you the start of the lower deck being worked on. I've only just started filing away at the deck beam to accept the carlings. mtaylor, Pete38, Matrim and 3 others 6 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
harvey1847 Posted February 20, 2014 #43 Posted February 20, 2014 Sadly there isn't much progress to report, Are you kidding me!!?? I have never seen a faster build log like yours. Every single piece of work is worthy and keep you moving ahead... Even that "little" job of marking the carlings on the beams is a big and beatiful task of patience and thinking. Don´t know at what stage you´ll be on friday... Keep going! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
ziled68 Posted February 20, 2014 Author #44 Posted February 20, 2014 Many thanks Daniel, I hope to be finished with the lower deck frame by Friday, if not then at least over the week-end. harvey1847 1 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
42rocker Posted February 20, 2014 #45 Posted February 20, 2014 Looking Good. Later Tim Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
ziled68 Posted February 23, 2014 Author #46 Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Greetings to all, Here’s the latest update of my H.M.S. Triton cross-section. I went ahead and started working on the lower deck taking measurements from the frames and transferring them to my timber. When I had completed four of the five deck beams, I realized that I was in fact following the gun deck plans rather than the lower deck plans (way to go Murphy). What I then did was put aside the work I had thus far and got new timber to work on the lower deck with I might add, the correct plans. I then cut the new deck beams and carlings and glued them in place on top of the plans which was inside of a document protector so as not to get the plans glued to the bottom of my deck. After the deck was dry, I proceeded to cut the ledges one at a time and gluing them on the carlings after I slightly sanded the corners for a snugger fit. After everything was glued and dry, I slid the deck onto the deck beam clamps to see how she was starting to look and was quite pleased at the result. I was actually contemplating if I should go ahead and plank the frames but decided against it because I really like the way everything is coming along. What I will do is place a minimal amount of planking material on the outside frames starting two or three planks below the wales and working my way up. The following pictures will show you what I have so far. Edited February 23, 2014 by ziled68 WackoWolf, Mike 41, harvey1847 and 2 others 5 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
42rocker Posted February 23, 2014 #47 Posted February 23, 2014 I said this on the other site and needs repeating. Are you working on this 24/7 or what?? You are doing great. I'm guessing that in a few weeks you will be done and working on the cross cut of the bomb vessel next. Enjoy and it's looking real good and I do hear the singing in the back ground. Later Tim ziled68 and harvey1847 2 Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
Pete38 Posted February 23, 2014 #48 Posted February 23, 2014 Looking really nice with some fast progress... I too found out ...that you need to check your plans 2 or 3 times to make sure you have the correct deck or even the correct scale you are working in. Keep up the great work Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
ziled68 Posted March 3, 2014 Author #49 Posted March 3, 2014 Greetings to all, Please excuse the fact that I have not posted anything new recently. The fact of the matter is that I’ve been pretty busy at work and other side projects. Speaking of side projects, a Buddy of mine wanted me to help him enclose the back porch of his house to which I was thinking of doing for free but he insisted that I charge him something for my work. What I then did was tell him that I was looking at Model Shipways New Bedford Whaleboat on eBay. If he truly wanted to pay me for my work then I’d take that as payment. So, I’ll give you a guess as to what my next future project is. Well back to the subject at hand. I have only been working on the Triton at least an hour a day sometimes two. As per the general consensus, I decided to plank the port side of the Triton and have added the ceiling up to the lower deck beam clamps. I’ve also completed the lower portion of the well with shot locker. I’ll be honest with all of you, looking at it outside of the Triton, I can’t help but think it looks like an ice-machine found at any hotel. I also added the shot locker’s door and door entrance to the lower well. I also made the chain pump casings for the well and just dry fitted them inside the lower well to see how they look. Not too shabby if I do say so myself. I hope to finish the lower deck in order to commence work on the gun deck sometime this week. Long9Ron, harvey1847, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
Pete38 Posted March 3, 2014 #50 Posted March 3, 2014 Very nice.... What did you use as a reference for the shot locker? Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
ziled68 Posted March 3, 2014 Author #51 Posted March 3, 2014 Pete, I got information from "Anatomy of the Ship: H.M.S. Bellona", in regards to pump wells and tubes but it was really sketchy as to the actual shot locker. What I then did was review forums on this site and MSB and came up with my own measurements for the shot locker. Now the door was a little pain in the butt seeing how its only 3/4" wide and 1 1/4" tall but I think I was able to pull it off. Pete38, mtaylor and WackoWolf 3 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
Pete38 Posted March 3, 2014 #52 Posted March 3, 2014 Yes you "DID" pull it off. Very nicely done and thanks for the information.... ziled68 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
the learner Posted March 3, 2014 #53 Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Looks fantastic! at that pace it will soon be finished Edited March 3, 2014 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
Matrim Posted March 4, 2014 #54 Posted March 4, 2014 Nice shot locker. Always good to see the variations that people decide to add ...
ziled68 Posted March 5, 2014 Author #55 Posted March 5, 2014 Greetings to all, Well I said I would finish the lower deck by this week in order to get started on the gun deck but for some strange reason I find myself shying away from the hanging knees. I know that I have to get them done and incorporate them into my model. What I will do is follow Arthur’s suggestion and mount and secure my rotary tool onto a base frame and use it as a spindle sander to sand my hanging knees into shape. You may all wonder, “If Ray isn’t working on the hanging knees, then what in the heck is he doing?” Well I’m glad you asked. I am currently planking the port side of my model below the wales and she is starting to look rather sexy. The following pictures will show you what I’m talking about. WackoWolf, Pete38, harvey1847 and 2 others 5 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
42rocker Posted March 5, 2014 #56 Posted March 5, 2014 Your right, she sure is looking good. Later Tim ziled68 1 Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
harvey1847 Posted March 5, 2014 #57 Posted March 5, 2014 then what in the heck is he doing? Hello Ray, the question should be "what the heck he is NOT doing?" You´re about to get the speed world record building the Cross Section!! Your tenacious is amazing. Good luck with the hanging knees... Daniel. ziled68 1 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
ziled68 Posted March 10, 2014 Author #58 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Greetings to all, Well, where to begin. I know it’s been a while since my last post but I must confess that I’ve only been working on my model for one to two hours a day or at the very least every other day. Guess what, that adds up pretty quickly and before I knew it I was already getting started on the second deck. I am currently pulling a 24-hour shift at my job and after I got here, I realized that the gun deck I had already started stayed at the house and I was not able to get any more work on it. So I concentrated on finishing all of the ledges, add the louvers on the lower deck, plank the lower deck, install the hatch coaming, make and place the ladder to the lower hold area (which I thought I needed hence its placement), add limber boards against the keelson, and finally finish the outboard planking. All of my planking received simulated tree nails by using an awl to mark the location and following up with a pencil. The following photos will show you where I am so far. P.S. I forgot to mention that I've also added the hanging knees on the lower deck (Hooray). Edited March 10, 2014 by ziled68 42rocker, harvey1847, Long9Ron and 3 others 6 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
WackoWolf Posted March 10, 2014 #59 Posted March 10, 2014 Very nice work, nice clean detail. Keep the pictures coming. Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
ziled68 Posted March 10, 2014 Author #60 Posted March 10, 2014 Will do Kemo-Sabe. Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
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