harvey1847 Posted March 10, 2014 #61 Posted March 10, 2014 Hello Ray! I do not know to say "well done" or go to say "CONGRATULATIONS"... As joe said Nice and Clean. Keep going! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
Matrim Posted March 10, 2014 #62 Posted March 10, 2014 I always felt it started feeling like a ship at this point as opposed to 'lots of work to do' ...
ziled68 Posted March 10, 2014 Author #63 Posted March 10, 2014 I believe this is the stage of the build when you have to actually slow down to ensure all the details are paid attention to. If not, then the results of the finished product would be disasterous. But between us, it's the most fun part of any build. Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
42rocker Posted March 10, 2014 #64 Posted March 10, 2014 Listen to the song in your head and also Enjoy the build. Later Tim Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
ziled68 Posted March 21, 2014 Author #65 Posted March 21, 2014 Greetings to all, Many thanks to all for your kind words. Please excuse me for not posting lately. I just feel as if I don’t have enough to post, then I should continue to work on my model until I do have enough. Now that being said, here it goes. I last left off with just the lower deck planked, lower deck hanging knees, and ladder going into the lower hold complete. Since I’ve only been working small items at a time, I’ve managed to install the hold pillars, add the gun deck beams (which have been planked to include the waterway and spirketting). Added the gun deck hanging knees, coamings for the gun deck hatch and ladder way, and made the main topsail sheet bitts. I plan to make the gun deck stanchions, quarterdeck clamps and beam, and start planking around the gun ports over the weekend. The following photos will show you what she is starting to look like. Shazmira, Mirabell61, Elmer Cornish and 6 others 9 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
mtaylor Posted March 21, 2014 #66 Posted March 21, 2014 Nice work, Ray. As for updates, the "how much" you have isn't important. Post when you feel like it. Can be one part or a dozen. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
42rocker Posted March 21, 2014 #67 Posted March 21, 2014 The song is still there I see. Enjoy the build and use the time as you will. Later Tim Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
ziled68 Posted March 23, 2014 Author #68 Posted March 23, 2014 Greetings to all, The newest update to my Triton consists of planking around the gun ports both inboard and outboard (to include the outboards trim moldings). I’ve also completed the gun deck’s section of planking over the chain pump casing well, permanently attached both main topsail sheet bitts. I constructed the chain pump, one of the two hand pumps leading down the well, and installed the gun deck’s grating. I’ve also placed the first quarterdeck beam as a means of establishing how it is going to look once I get started on its. Now here is my dilemma, in a couple of photos below you will see a couple of 7/8” barrels I purchased in Hobby Lobby. At this scale, the barrels will be equal to 42” in height which I believe are ideal size for the storage of the ships freshwater supply. My question is, did the Triton have platforms in its hold area? I ask because I believe that it will add for more details in the hold’s area and at the same time allow for the storage of barrels. Elmer Cornish, WackoWolf, Long9Ron and 5 others 8 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
mtaylor Posted March 24, 2014 #69 Posted March 24, 2014 Ray, There's a fore and aft platform but the water barrels would have been laid on their sides and "mixed" in with the rock ballast. I'm trying to find a good link here.. I think the Victory Cross-Sections in the kit area show this. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
42rocker Posted March 24, 2014 #70 Posted March 24, 2014 I believe that at least one cross section has also showed it. Looking Great as always. Later Tim Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
ziled68 Posted March 24, 2014 Author #71 Posted March 24, 2014 Gentlemen, I really appretiate the prompt reply. I will dig in a little deeper in order to see how much detail I can add. Once again many thanks. Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
harvey1847 Posted March 24, 2014 #72 Posted March 24, 2014 Hello Ray! I asked the same question on my log but I received no answer at all... Looks like we all think somehow the same way about the main hold... What about to have a look to the "Jeronimo´s Bonhomme". Different type of ship but her hold is amazing. Could "inspired" you... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/300-le-bonhomme-richard-by-jeronimo/page-22 Good Work Ray! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
Matrim Posted March 24, 2014 #73 Posted March 24, 2014 Good work, you also have a talent for interesting photographic angles which makes some of the photos very interesting ...
ziled68 Posted March 24, 2014 Author #74 Posted March 24, 2014 Hola Daniel, I really appreciate the site you added to your post. I looked over the hold details and I thought every single item was excellently represented in a ship of that time frame. Once again thank you for the link. Greetings and Salutations Matrim, I appreciate the kudos for the pictures. I just thought that if I was someone else looking at my progress, I would like to see it from different angles to really get a feel for what actually drives someone to spend many hours on some areas that would likely get overlooked. I mean take the single hand pump I made for the Triton. I spent about an hour and a half on that single item and I really like the way she came out. mtaylor, harvey1847 and dewalt57 3 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
dewalt57 Posted March 26, 2014 #75 Posted March 26, 2014 Looking good Ray!!! AL ziled68 1 H.M.S. Triton, 28 gun frigate (Cross Section) 1:18 Scale build in progress
ziled68 Posted March 26, 2014 Author #76 Posted March 26, 2014 Thanks Al, I look forward to seeing "your build" of the Triton Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ziled68 Posted April 5, 2014 Author #77 Posted April 5, 2014 Hello Everyone, Sorry for the delay since my last post. I didn’t have a lathe in order to turn my canons and was contemplating how to go about making them. Well I happened to go to the thrift store here on Fort Huachuca, AZ and was able to buy a lathe for $75.00. The only problem was that it did not have a faceplate but she still purred like a kitten and decided to buy it anyway. I was able to get a faceplate for it at Wood Craft for $30.00 and now I have a complete lathe capable of turning the canons. The next step was to learn how to use it since I’ve never owned one and all I had was a concept of how it must be used. Well I decided to turn a canon at twice the size the plans called for in order to get comfortable with it and I’m happy to report that I was able to make my first canon. I also made the carriage for the canon and added all the eyebolts and rings for it. Since I was feeling comfortable, I decided to go ahead and make the three canons at the correct scale for my Triton. I also made the carriages for my canons with the exception of adding the eyebolts which I will try to do tomorrow. I went ahead and emulated my mentor by painting my carriages red but leaving the quoins natural in order to have color contrast. I also made the gun deck stanchions and added them into place. The following photos will show you what she is looking like along with my first try at the canon. Cheers, Raymond mtaylor, Elmer Cornish, maddog33 and 3 others 6 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
dewalt57 Posted April 6, 2014 #78 Posted April 6, 2014 Looking good Ray!! AL ziled68 1 H.M.S. Triton, 28 gun frigate (Cross Section) 1:18 Scale build in progress
42rocker Posted April 6, 2014 #79 Posted April 6, 2014 Charge right in and go for it. Way to go! Buy a lathe and jump right in and make something that looks great! Great Job. Later Tim ziled68 and Bindy 2 Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
ziled68 Posted April 6, 2014 Author #80 Posted April 6, 2014 Hello Everyone, Here’s another update to the Triton, this time in the form of canons. Well yesterday I mentioned that I would go ahead and start working on adding the eyebolts to the carriage assembly. Not only did I add the eyebolts, I also added the breeching as well and went ahead and secured them to the bulkhead. I still need to work on the gun tackles but that is for another day. Cheers, Raymond dewalt57, mtaylor, Elmer Cornish and 1 other 4 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
42rocker Posted April 6, 2014 #81 Posted April 6, 2014 Your skill is great. Great job. I'm impressed. Later Tim ziled68 1 Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
Bindy Posted April 7, 2014 #82 Posted April 7, 2014 Wow! What a great buy but they look great! Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72
ziled68 Posted April 10, 2014 Author #84 Posted April 10, 2014 Greetings to all, I went ahead and added the ladder to the lower deck and made and installed the platform for the port side lower hold area. The next step is to make the ladder in order to have access to the platform where the fresh water barrels will be stored. So far, everything has been constructed in terms of inches and/or millimeters. While everything was made according to measurements, one cannot truly appreciate scale. Keeping this in mind, I decided to make a wooden man in order to get a better feel as to the size of the Triton. At 1:48 scale, a 6 foot tall man would be 1.5 inches in height. I went on line and searched for male dimensions to make certain that my effigy of a man would be at the correct proportion, hence the birth of “Woody”. I’ve placed Woody at different areas on the Triton and I am truly surprised at how large these ships really were. The following photos will show you Woody standing near certain elements on the Triton as a means of seeing how everything compares to a 6 foot tall man. WackoWolf, maddog33, Aussie048 and 6 others 9 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
mtaylor Posted April 10, 2014 #85 Posted April 10, 2014 Looking good, Raymond. I'm not sure the barrels would have stored on top of the platforms. Everything I've seen shows them laying on their sides in the main area of the hold surrounded in gravel ballast. I'm one who likes scale figures in shipbuilding. It not only gives you a reference to size of the ship but also to the "fiddly bits" such as pumps, pin rails, ladders, etc. Lovely work. harvey1847 and ziled68 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
42rocker Posted April 10, 2014 #86 Posted April 10, 2014 Woody do you hear the music also?? Looking good, keep doing it your way and ENJOY. Later Tim Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
Pete38 Posted April 10, 2014 #87 Posted April 10, 2014 Very...Very...Very nice...Love the way you have made it "YOUR" build. Love all the detail you are putting into this...(very fast also)...Looking forward to more. Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Bindy Posted April 13, 2014 #88 Posted April 13, 2014 What a great idea to have Woody to help show real dimensions! It certainly opened my eyes! Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72
ziled68 Posted April 14, 2014 Author #89 Posted April 14, 2014 Greetings to all, Mark, Tim, Pete, and Bindy thanks for looking in on my build and for the advice, motivation, and/or kudos. You all inspire me to continue giving my best and looking for ways to improve myself. I thought Woody blended in too well (like a ninja), into the surrounding ship and decided to paint him so that he could stand out a bit. I decided to also get started on the aft quarterdeck and framed the QD beam by adding the carlings and ledges, and planking the port side of it. I’ve managed to start on the entry steps but still have to get started on the fenders. I also started on the gangway in order to best determine how I would go about making the brackets. I will be honest with all of you and confess that soldering the brackets was not my cup of tea and I did a little research on line and came across a web site (http://model-ship-plans.com/Campbell/Deck%20furniture.html ) and it explained that gangway brackets were made with either iron or wood. Since I am not too savvy on soldering and I have already incorporated plenty of wooden knees on my Triton, I decided to make wooden brackets for my gangway. The following photos will show how she is starting to look. On a side note, whenever I place Woody on board the Triton, I tend to forget he’s there and move my ship from place to place, hence Woody falling to the ground a lot (I believe he may be a little suicidal, what do you think?). Elmer Cornish, jaerschen, Bindy and 5 others 8 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
Matrim Posted April 14, 2014 #90 Posted April 14, 2014 Great idea! Though I think you need his little brother 'splinter' who is crouching down slightly for those areas where standing rigourously to attention would not count. You have also dressed him appropriately for 'modern'man. Due to bad nutrition the average height was a lot lower back then (Napoleon was actually average size ). If you did a historical 'woody' then going for around 5'7'' would probably be about right. ...
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