Rich.F Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share #151 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Just came home from work to find this, Brought by the Wife Edited September 24, 2014 by Rich.f peterwwebster, src, Gundorph and 3 others 6 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted September 24, 2014 Share #152 Posted September 24, 2014 Captured, by the Admiral matey!! Argh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 24, 2014 Share #153 Posted September 24, 2014 Hi Rich, I follow you for a while in silence and I'm impressed with what you are doing. About the copperplates, take a look at my log about the Agamemnon I just finished the copperplates on her. Maybe it gives you any idea's. The row what goes against the waterline there are two ways to do it. One as I did it and the other one ( I believe it is common on the Victory ) lay a straight line against the waterline. Or 2 rows. Then you have a nice straight line . Sjors Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share #154 Posted September 25, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Tim> Yes. Sjors> Your build looks great I also Have kept an eye on yours. Im working on the second why, A straight line pattern Its going to be more what im looking for. foxy and Sjors 2 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted September 25, 2014 Share #155 Posted September 25, 2014 Glad to see your other half has a sense of humour Rich. I can see which is better your panels V copper strip, much nicer the panelling you have. foxy Rich.F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share #156 Posted September 28, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. With Ref to V2.0 of my copper plating, I have done a lot better job and achieved the look looking for, even in V1.0 well to a point. Except for to curve on the bow I rather wanted the Nailed look to continue round but was unable to due to the curvature, But I have slept on it came back to it and like it so im not going to even try to attempt to change it. I started my center line on the center of the door catch, ( thought i made sense ) very thing else just fell into place, So far on V2.0 I'm on 21.5 hours, (not that i timing it) Well I have the rest of today to lay one or to copper plates. Oh Btw, I have noticed that a few plates are thicker than others until i found there are two or three stuck together. shihawk, Kevin, schnu and 5 others 8 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted September 28, 2014 Share #157 Posted September 28, 2014 lookin good , never coppered myself and look forward to seeing your finished result , Can imagine it gets boring but worth it in the end Quote HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted September 28, 2014 Share #158 Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) i achieved much better results on my 5th attempt - still not perfect but i tried i took advice from the keith jullier book i found the centre on the ship at the waterline and fixed 7 rows of 5 offset tiles then i continued fwd and aft from the 7th row - whilst keeping parallel with the keel, this brought me back to the waterline, then filled in at about 11 rows down i then went from the keel upwards and this ensured the gore-line was hidden under the waist of the build, my biggest headache was matching the stern so both sides looked the same Edited September 28, 2014 by Kevin Shipyard sid 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted September 28, 2014 Share #159 Posted September 28, 2014 Greetings rich Well done. It's coming on fine. Yep I totally agree with Kevin's advice. I would build a few rows down of five or so wide and then build them around to the bow and stern. You can make fine adjustments as you go, as you are laying a wide band of tiles if you follow, and you can better control the run of your tiles. Yep your doing fine.......DAVID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted September 28, 2014 Share #160 Posted September 28, 2014 Nice work Kevin, the end result justifies the hard work you've put in on this task Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPEXEC Posted September 30, 2014 Share #161 Posted September 30, 2014 It's looking real good! Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share #162 Posted October 5, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Been slow on tiles this week due to the slip of a sharp knife last Sunday while scoring the tiles. Still but painful oh well, Just finished painting the Bathroom to keep the Lady of the House happy. im slowly working on the advice, I have tiled 8 down now working aft and stern in turn, Ill upload Pictures later when I have finished for the day Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 5, 2014 Share #163 Posted October 5, 2014 Nothing serious I gather? Just painful? Take your time we will wait. What! Your not done yet?!?!?!?!? Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share #164 Posted October 5, 2014 No Sam, Im trying to beat Your record Sjors, src and foxy 3 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share #165 Posted October 5, 2014 After almost 8 hours solid today I have achieved a good amount of tiles Rather Happy with the look so far. Goes anyone know how to shine them? Sjors, Harvey, GuntherMT and 2 others 5 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn-UK Posted October 5, 2014 Share #166 Posted October 5, 2014 I cleaned the excess glue off as I went along and the used brasso for the final cleaning process before applying a clear varnish Rich.F 1 Quote Glenn (UK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted October 5, 2014 Share #167 Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) unless you want them to look pristine you don't need to varnish them, you might (just might) find it to bright in the long term Edited October 5, 2014 by Kevin Rich.F, peterwwebster, Shipyard sid and 1 other 4 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipyard sid Posted October 5, 2014 Share #168 Posted October 5, 2014 Hello rich Yep, I think they look far better when they are dull. I polished mine with brasso and varnished them, but they have still dulled off , and look all the better for it. DAVID Rich.F 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompey2 Posted October 16, 2014 Share #169 Posted October 16, 2014 Hi Rich I have only just stumbled across your build. Such a shame I didn't see it earlier. Just spent some time going right through. Your Vic is looking great and you seem to be making excelent progress. It's funny how many times i thought 'oh yeah i remember having a problem with that as well' Anyway best of luck with the rest of your tiles, looking good so far Nick (fellow pompeyite) Quote Current build USF Confederacy Previous log - HMS Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share #170 Posted October 16, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Welcome Nick, Thanks for your comment. Just a small update, Well I have done a fair amount, But I have decided to do a redo, I'm not going to start this for a few weeks as me and the family are a way, But ill start the stripping this weekend. I'm just not happy how they have turned out, I'm going to do a few drawings on the layout etc to ill update a few pictures soon when i have done some more tiles. If anyone as the answer for ties love to here from you. TC Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Posted October 16, 2014 Share #171 Posted October 16, 2014 Hi Rich, with regard to laying the copper plates, if you can reference Longridge's book " The Anatomy of Nelson's ships" you will find he discusses coppering on page 54 and there is also an illustration on page 36 which shows the run of the plates. They are laid in two bands an upper and lower band. I followed this method by starting at the waterline in the middle of the ship. I laid eight tiles at the water line then another eight offset by 50% below those and continued in this manner until I had seven rows laid in the middle of the ship. From there using a straight edge, like a ruler, I continued on from the last row, filling in up to the waterline as I went, until I was close to the bow and the stern, the straight edge ensures the tiles remain in line and by filling in above, small adjustments can be made to correct any alignment issues. I used a slow setting glue called Weldbond it is a glue made in Canada by Frank T Ross LTD. They have a website www.weldbond.com you may find a supplier in the UK if you contact them and wish to use the product. Hope this helps Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share #172 Posted October 17, 2014 HI Gary, Thanks Very Much for the information, I'm going to look in to ordering this book, I think I looked into it a while ago, as for glue, Ill also have a look at there web site. Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted October 17, 2014 Share #173 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Yes one of the best informative books for this ship, plus Anatomy of Victory. These two books help for all aspects of this ship. 'Now time to go back to sleep' Frank Edited October 17, 2014 by foxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share #174 Posted October 17, 2014 Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Have ordered the "anatomy of Nelson" £25.46 @ Amazon. Should be here on Monday or Tuesday. Foxy ? 1023 and you want more Sleep LOL Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share #175 Posted October 18, 2014 Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. HI, will It took only 15 minutes to get the tiles off, sad moment but oh well. I;m Re ready and re primed the hull for after my Holiday to the US, The Book that i was informed off "Anatomy of Victory" should arrive Monday so ill have read of this next week.. justsayrow and src 2 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share #176 Posted October 18, 2014 HI everyone, im after a question to be answered, The black strips on the hull, does anyone know the layout for them as i can't find any thing for it. I'm trying to find something to do with out making mess as I have have HAD" to clean the house (wife orders) TC Davecobb 1 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 21, 2014 Share #177 Posted October 21, 2014 Rich, Cant help with the black stripe question but I can say, "Go cook your wife a nice dinner and while SHE is cleaning up you go make a mess in your work area." Shell never know, promise!! Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterwwebster Posted October 21, 2014 Share #178 Posted October 21, 2014 Hi Rich. Black bands see page 12 and photos on page 11. I assume that's what you are asking about I don't want to pry but what was wrong with your copper tiles that warranted such drastic action? They looked fine to me Regards Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share #179 Posted October 21, 2014 Greetings All, Thank you every one for dropping by, Leaving a comment advice or a like. Hi John Thanks for that. I'll look into that see if we are able to get this over here HI Peter,Yes the black bands, I have to a few tough up then ill up load a few pictures,, As for the copper plates, I Did not like how they sat with the pattern, but Lawrence said, "practice makes perfect" Want it to look great not just ok. So need to make it right I have a few ideas when I get back from the trip to the USA canoe21 and src 2 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 22, 2014 Share #180 Posted October 22, 2014 Rich, Enjoy your trip. Too bad your not making it to the West Coast. Sam Rich.F 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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