shark bait Posted December 31, 2014 #241 Posted December 31, 2014 Hello Ulises, I am working on the same ship as you and have found your post interesting and helpful. Have fun with it and Happy New Year. Bill Ulises Victoria and GLakie 2 Bill Finished builds: Albatros by OcCre 1:100 Badger by Caldercraft current build: Royal Louis
Ulises Victoria Posted December 31, 2014 Author #242 Posted December 31, 2014 Hello Bill: I'm glad there is another RL builder. How far are you into it? Do you have a build log? Happy New Year to you too. GLakie 1 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
shark bait Posted January 1, 2015 #243 Posted January 1, 2015 Hi Ulises. I am just about finished with the first planking. I received the kit from another modeler who had laid the keel and started work on the decking. He had also installed the gunports and some of them were a little bit askew. So two of the forward gunports on my model will have closed doors ( due to rough seas :-) ). I did submit a few photos as a start to a build log, but I'm not much of a photographer and, frankly, the first planking does not look that good, I have some low spots that are going to need filler. I am going to try to make the first planking as good as possible to make the second planking go a little smoother. Bill edmay and GLakie 2 Bill Finished builds: Albatros by OcCre 1:100 Badger by Caldercraft current build: Royal Louis
Ulises Victoria Posted January 1, 2015 Author #244 Posted January 1, 2015 Well Bill... seems like we are at the same stage and with the same issues. I am about to finish the first planking also, and as you, it doesn't look very pretty to me. I am awaiting to finish with the wood, the filling, the sanding of the metal frames and the general fairing of it to muster the courage to post some photos. Best regards. GLakie and shark bait 2 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted February 7, 2015 Author #245 Posted February 7, 2015 OK. So... although not completely done with the first planking yet, here's an update of my RL build. I finished with the wood placement of all the first planking on this massive hull. A lot to be done here yet: sand flush the metal frames, sanding and fairing the unevenness of the wood, lots of filler on the oops areas, etc. I also finished building and shaping the bulwarks which was very troublesome because the drawings are not too clear on this area. The bulwarks are formed by 4 layers of wood: The first is the first planking; then some vertical planks are placed on the inside. The second planking on the outside, and yet another last planking on the inside. The decks are completely planked also, but not yet finished. Thanks for visiting Ulises Vivian Galad, GLakie, Waitoa and 13 others 16 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted February 8, 2015 Author #246 Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) Hehe Thanks Arthur. That table top is removed and underneath there is a green flannel flat surface with slots for your poker chips, drinking glasses and everything needed for your card or domino games! Oh and thanks for your comment on the ship!. And a big thank you all for the likes. Edited February 8, 2015 by Ulises Victoria mtaylor and GLakie 2 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
shark bait Posted February 12, 2015 #247 Posted February 12, 2015 Well done Ulises!! You and I are almost in the same place as far as the model goes. I will submit some pictures soon. I am going to start the second planking with the wales. Bill GLakie 1 Bill Finished builds: Albatros by OcCre 1:100 Badger by Caldercraft current build: Royal Louis
Ulises Victoria Posted February 12, 2015 Author #248 Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you Bill. My very next step will be to sand down the metal frames to level with the hull, and sand smooth all the wood in the hull. I plan to sand it all and then paint the whole thing with diluted wood glue to strengthen any weak joint that might have escaped to my eye. This Russian guy has an excellent build log of this kit. It's in Russian, but Chrome allows me to translate it to English. Imperfect, but you can get the idea of what they are talking about. http://gallery.shipmodeling.ru/main.php?g2_itemId=76728 (Thanks to michael101 for the link) GLakie and Sargon 2 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
edmay Posted February 12, 2015 #249 Posted February 12, 2015 Hello Ulises, plank,plank,plank,planking should make for a very sturdy hull, you may feel a little bored but from the outside looking in,you are doing a fine job,slow but sure,well explaned with a touch of humor. The learning's we get as onlookers is much appreciated,Thanks.Edwin Ulises Victoria and GLakie 2
GLakie Posted February 12, 2015 #250 Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Just happened across your build Ulises. You're doing a fine job on her and I'd like to pull up a seat for this one if you don't mind. P.S. Glad you found a larger area to work on her with. Cheers Edited February 12, 2015 by GLakie Ulises Victoria 1 GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Ulises Victoria Posted February 12, 2015 Author #251 Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you for your kind words, Edwin. It's really satisfying when someone says they are learning something from what you do. Glakie: I thank you also for your comment, and you're more than welcome to come and see... but actually, I'm building my ship in the same closet where I started her and where I've been building since we moved to this house in yr 2000! There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
GLakie Posted February 12, 2015 #252 Posted February 12, 2015 Thank you for your kind words, Edwin. It's really satisfying when someone says they are learning something from what you do. Glakie: I thank you also for your comment, and you're more than welcome to come and see... but actually, I'm building my ship in the same closet where I started her and where I've been building since we moved to this house in yr 2000! Thanks Ulises! Oh when I saw the big table and chairs, I thought you might have been doing some work there. Sorry. Cheers GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Ulises Victoria Posted February 28, 2015 Author #253 Posted February 28, 2015 Hello all. I can't believe it took me more than five months to finish the first planking of my ship. This hull is HUGE! I finished placing all the wood on the hull, leveling the metal frames to hull level, sanding and smoothing the hole thing and painting red the metal frames. I plan to let the second planking just a bit short from the openings to achieve the effect shown in the first photo. Not sure how this will come out. Also, do you see the photo of an unpainted frame with the upper right corner slightly rounded? Well.... all 66 red frames were like that so that was something else to fix. The hull is not perfectly even... there a re a few albeit very small bumps here and there, but that will have to do.- Thanks for watching! dgbot, JanV, Vivian Galad and 10 others 13 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
SawdustDave Posted February 28, 2015 #254 Posted February 28, 2015 That really is a big ship. It's going to keep you busy for quite a while. GLakie 1 Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com
Keith_W Posted February 28, 2015 #255 Posted February 28, 2015 Followed you here from your post in "latest profile pic of your build". Decided I just HAVE to see this Hope it's not too late to pull up a chair. I feel your pain, having to square off 66 of those metal gunports. The realization that you have to do something tedious, and do it 66 times over and over again ... is something only a fellow modeller really understands! GLakie, mtaylor and Ulises Victoria 3 Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
GLakie Posted February 28, 2015 #256 Posted February 28, 2015 Ditto on the really big ship. Definitely not a short term project. Ulises Victoria 1 GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
SawdustDave Posted February 28, 2015 #257 Posted February 28, 2015 I will be following this build closely as it appears to be very similar to the Royal Sovereign, which I may be soon starting as a scratch build. Looks like it will be quite a challenge and I think your build will be very helpful. Ulises Victoria and GLakie 2 Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com
edmay Posted February 28, 2015 #258 Posted February 28, 2015 Hello Ulises,Your model is coming along fine. The speed of enjoyment/battle is yours to control, frustratingly slower at times but necessary to achieve the aim,remember your difficult times are also learning times for your modeling audience and yourself,and we appreciate, thanks .Edwin Ulises Victoria and GLakie 2
Sjors Posted February 28, 2015 #259 Posted February 28, 2015 And time stood still...... 5 months....very quick Ulises You have find a good way to fit in those steal gun ports. I like it ! ( yes, I also hit that button ) Then the planking....I think you can make it smoother by using filler. You've got to do a second planking ?( of course you have ) You still need filler for the gaps in the hull. When you put the second planking on right now, you will see it later ( after you've done the second planking ) So be brave , use filler and sanding it smooth ! Please ???? Sjors mtaylor, GLakie and Ulises Victoria 3 Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
marktiedens Posted March 1, 2015 #260 Posted March 1, 2015 You are doing a fine job on this monster. As I recall I knocked down those frames with my Dremel & finished them off with a file. I also recall having to square up those rounded inside corners. Have faith - the hardest part of this build is about done. /Mark GLakie 1 current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Ulises Victoria Posted March 1, 2015 Author #261 Posted March 1, 2015 Thank you all for your comments, encouragement and likes. Sjors: Okay okay. I will use some more filler. Mark: I started doing the frames job with coarse sand paper on a wood block. Then I found a small file with very sharp and big teeth. Rasp I think it's called, and that made a lot of difference. Finished port side in 1 and a half sessions. GLakie and Sjors 2 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
demonborger Posted March 1, 2015 #262 Posted March 1, 2015 I did mine with sandpaper. The material is not too difficult. GLakie and Ulises Victoria 2 Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
Jean-Pierre Posted March 1, 2015 #263 Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Am I right to think that those metal frames do not simplify the build. I wonder if a method "à la Corel" would not be easier after all?! Edited March 1, 2015 by Jean-Pierre GLakie 1
Ulises Victoria Posted March 1, 2015 Author #264 Posted March 1, 2015 Well... you guys got me cornered. I guess more filler is the order of this next week building schedule. Jean-Pierre: I think I prefer the "find-and-mark-the-location-and-open-with-a-knife" method for doing the gun ports. Supposedly Mamoli does it that way so the frames are correctly positioned right away, but I found out this is not always the case. I had to manipulate some of them to correct position. GLakie 1 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Ulises Victoria Posted March 2, 2015 Author #265 Posted March 2, 2015 Look what you made me do! You know who you are!!! CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Sjors and 1 other 4 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
SawdustDave Posted March 2, 2015 #266 Posted March 2, 2015 There's a great product used by auto body repairmen..... called "Bondo" I find it much superior to any other filler in the world. Sets up quickly and can be sanded smooth as a baby's butt. Ulises Victoria, GLakie and mtaylor 3 Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com
Karleop Posted March 2, 2015 #267 Posted March 2, 2015 Hola Ulises: I suppose you are buying the filler by gallons!! jajaja Saludos GLakie, riverboat, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways)
Ulises Victoria Posted March 2, 2015 Author #268 Posted March 2, 2015 Thanks for the tips. Since I'm almost done with my filler needs (yeah, right) I will use what I have and experiment new stuff later. GLakie 1 There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Keith_W Posted March 2, 2015 #269 Posted March 2, 2015 UV I hope i'm not telling you to suck eggs or anything ... but when I use filler, I apply enough to fill the depression and then immediately use a spare plank to scrape the excess off. This wastes less filler, and makes sanding much easier later. dgbot, GLakie and Ulises Victoria 3 Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
dgbot Posted March 2, 2015 #270 Posted March 2, 2015 There's a great product used by auto body repairmen..... called "Bondo" I find it much superior to any other filler in the world. Sets up quickly and can be sanded smooth as a baby's butt. I prefer using Elmer wood filler. A little bit goes along way. David B GLakie 1 Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
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