ancre Le Gros Ventre - Gabare du Roi 1776 by cpt. Tom - 1/48 Scale

[Mirabell61]

Hi Tom,

 

I wish you a successful keellaying in the next days,

the ship on the plan Looks great...

 

Nils

[dgbot]

It looks like you are in for some interesting times Tom.  Remember have fun and enjoy the challenge.

David B

[mij]

Hi Tom

 

I`ll be watching your build with great intrest.

Good luck,

 

mij

[cpt. Tom]

Thank you Guys. 

 

Today I have to go to work (Late shift) but then I have 4 days off and then I start with the keel :) and I have got my scroll saw today jiiiiiiippieh

 

See you soon  on weekend....!!

[cpt. Tom]

Sooooooo, I still had something to do on the Helling but now it is finished 

The first keel part is also ready which was not very easy, so the keel-laying was on 05/30/14 

It's different when you take finished components from a box or if you do everything yourself, it takes time :)  but it´s funny

So, let's see what else I get done today, all components from the keel are already cut out and they still need to be sanded

 

Here are the pics :)

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2014 by cpt. Tom

[Nenseth]

I'm waiting on this monograph myself so I'll be following this log with interest

Edited May 31, 2014 by Nenseth

[woodrat]

Tom, are you making clamps for keel, sternpost and stempost?

Dick

[cpt. Tom]

You're very welcome Hans Christian 

 

Hello Dick,

 

 

 

Tom, are you making clamps for keel, sternpost and stempost?

what do you mean with "clamps". The german word for "clamps" is "Klammer" ????????

Maybe you mean wood ledges.....I glue wooden strips next to the keel and I cut for the stern and the bow parts small incisions into the helling so that nothing can slip away.

I hope this is that what you mean :)

[woodrat]

Tom, I highly recommend that you construct frames to rigidly hold the stem and stern posts. also take care that the keel is held by wood planks which go almost up to the rabbet line of the keel. here are some photos of the ones I made

stempost clamp

 

sternpost clamp. Note the allen key in the top of the clamp to tighten the bolt thereby holding the sternpost down.

 

This will reduce the risk of twisting of the hull over time :)

 

Dick

Edited May 31, 2014 by woodrat

[AntonyUK]

Hi Tom.

Yet another build

Will be looking in to watch your progress and follow the growth of the model fron keel to deck and beyond.

 

Best wishes Antony.

[cpt. Tom]

Thank you Dick, I think I'll do it the same way as you did.....looks very good

 

And here is another chair for Antony and a warm welcome to you and greetings to England.

 

Some more progress on the gabare, some components I had to do twice, but it was fun :) I have to learn handle the milling machine and the handling of the carving knives. But all is difficult at the beginning

 

Here some pics:

 

 

 

 

[Nenseth]

Found this website for Le Gros Ventre

Some great pdf´s on how to scratch build this fine ship

Italien site, but pdf´s in english

[cpt. Tom]

Thank you Hans-Christian, 

 

i know this page and I`ve downloaded the pdf files already.

[cpt. Tom]

A little progress on the gabare

 

 

Here you can see the Sternpost, false Sternpost, inner Sternpost, Sternpost knee and a filling piece under the Sternpost knee and last but not least the keel. The false keel is not on the picture but it is ready build

 

 

then I glued everything

 

 

and here on the helling

[dgbot]

Very clean.  What kind of glue are you using?

David B

[cpt. Tom]

Hi David,

 

I use normal wood glue from "Clou" and thank you very much

When all the parts are glued together and the glue is still wet, I loop everything so that all gaps be filled with wood glue and sanding dust. I've had good experiences to do it this way

[cpt. Tom]

Hello I´m back with a question and I hope Dick ore someone else can help me.

 

I found this part on Plan 4 where the components from the keel and the sternpost are shown, it is the sternpost knee. I have no idea what i have to do with this piece, please can someone help me ?????

 

Here is the picture from the problem part :)

 

 

Thank you already for your effort.....!!!

[42rocker]

1st thought and it might be wrong but I think that it is an end view of the part of the right showing size and shape. Note how high it is and the part to the right.

 

Later Tim

[mtaylor]

I think Tim nailed it.  Looks like the view of the keel, false keel, and sternpost as seen from the stern.

[woodrat]

Tom, the drawing shows the sternpost knee and filler from aft. On top is a plan view. This shows the progressive narrowing of the knee as you go from fore to aft towards the rabbet in order to accommodate the run of planking. I hope this helps,.

Dick

 

 

Edited June 4, 2014 by woodrat

[dgbot]

My only problem with this print is actually doing the narrowing.  My sense of depth has never been good so on an average I take off a little too much and have to start over.  The person who can figure out how to do this easly and market it would probably be called a hero.

David B

[Nenseth]

Got my monograph in the mail today 

Will read and study yours and Dick´s progress with even more interest now

[cpt. Tom]

First I want to say thank you for your comments and your help 

 

Dick, so I need to rejuvenate the false sternpost, the sternpost and the knee, is that right? ore only the knee, I have already glued everything together.......... now I have a problem   

[cpt. Tom]

Got my monograph in the mail today 

Will read and study yours and Dick´s progress with even more interest now

That's great and then we'll soon be three who build this ship , right??   

[Jeronimo]

Hello Tom.

Problem?

Regards Karl

[cpt. Tom]

Absolute coooool Karl, I love your work and if I only have a little bit of it I'd be happy

[woodrat]

First I want to say thank you for your comments and your help 

 

Dick, so I need to rejuvenate the false sternpost, the sternpost and the knee, is that right? ore only the knee, I have already glued everything together.......... now I have a problem   

nil desperandum, Tom. No need to remake the knee.  Much as Karl has shown, after you have completed and fitted the transom timbers, fashion piece and last 2 frames, simply fit some timbers below the lowest transom beam and shape them in situ with your friendly Dremel drum sander. Dick

 

 

Another point. Please note there is a step at a slightly lower level for the step of the forward half of the full frame. It also has a hole for a dowel. You do not appear to have done this.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2014 by woodrat

[cpt. Tom]

nil desperandum, Tom. No need to remake the knee.  Much as Karl has shown, after you have completed and fitted the transom timbers, fashion piece and last 2 frames, simply fit some timbers below the lowest transom beam and shape them in situ with your friendly Dremel drum sander. Dick

 

Thank you Dick, sounds good to me and this is what i try to do.

 

 

Another point. Please note there is a step at a slightly lower level for the step of the forward half of the full frame. It also has a hole for a dowel. You do not appear to have done this.

 

I did finish it today and now I make the frames of the stern

I need to learn to work more slowly, otherwise I forget some steps or make mistakes     

 

 

Edited June 5, 2014 by cpt. Tom

[cpt. Tom]

Hi Dick, I know I nerve sometimes     but I couldn't find this parts on the picture below.

 

 

Thank you for your help again   

[woodrat]

you have to do it yourself. Make the pieces oversize and Dremel them to shape. Dick