druxey Posted May 3, 2015 #91 Posted May 3, 2015 Very nice metalwork, Mick. If you are looking at another lathe, I've found a watchmakers' lathe with compound cross-slide excellent for model work. One can find them, often in very good condition, on eBay. Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
yamsterman Posted May 4, 2015 Author #92 Posted May 4, 2015 Hi druxey Thanks for compliment. Still deciding on a lathe looks like a toss up between sherline or peatol(taig). Both available in the UK but sherline tend to be on the expensive side. May also consider an emco unimat.....seen some niceexamples on eBay recently. Decisions,decisions!!!! Cheers....mick
cog Posted May 5, 2015 #93 Posted May 5, 2015 Mick, Maybe ... you should keep in mind the possible future extensions you may wish on the lathe you'll buy ... Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
yamsterman Posted May 5, 2015 Author #94 Posted May 5, 2015 Hi Carl Will do! Probably why I haven't committed to buying one yet. I know one thing.....no more Chinese crap!!!!! Cheers....mick cog 1
yamsterman Posted June 23, 2015 Author #95 Posted June 23, 2015 hi all been a little busy of late on other non ship building projects. however have managed to do a few bits and pieces. the display case for triton has been built. i just need to turn down two support columns from brass. i have a pile of bits ready to go on the basic hull form. been diverted by making a new base and some new locking handles for a recently purchased lathe. cheers for now mick. mtaylor and UpstateNY 2
tkay11 Posted June 24, 2015 #96 Posted June 24, 2015 Looks like a nice lathe. Which lathe is it? Bought in the UK? The reason I ask is that I'm looking for one myself. Tony === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
yamsterman Posted June 24, 2015 Author #97 Posted June 24, 2015 Hi Tony Lathe is a peatol or taig if you're in the US. I managed to find one on eBay in reasonable condition for £135. Unfortunately all the extras have to be brought separately. The one thing I didn't like was the three jaw soft aluminium Chuck supplied. Arc eurotrade sell a nice little er16 collet Chuck and collets which is what I shall use for the majority of my turning. However er16 only go up to 10mm . arc also sell a four jaw self centring Chuck and back plate which I shall get asap. Various locking points are provided but are 10-32 unf bolts......soon got fed up of reaching for an Allen key so devised some locking handles in brass using a longer unf bolt as the foundation. Overall I'm quite impressed with the machine....for smaller scale work its ideal...its also whisper quiet. I would recommend it but be prepared to make a few modifications! Cheers.....mick tkay11 1
yamsterman Posted June 24, 2015 Author #98 Posted June 24, 2015 Hi Tony As an addendum new machines are available from peatol machine tools based in harbourne ,Birmingham,UK. Check out their website. Also check out the taig website in the US. Hope this helps Cheers....mick tkay11 1
tkay11 Posted June 24, 2015 #99 Posted June 24, 2015 Thanks, Mick. Useful info. I'd looked at a Peatol/Taig before and wondered how it would compare with the ARC models. I see it's set up for imperial units only, but suppose that's not much of a problem. Sorry for diverting the thread! Tony === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
yamsterman Posted June 24, 2015 Author #100 Posted June 24, 2015 Hi Tony No worries about diverting the thread! The peatol is in imperial but the collets I'm using are metric!I tend to measure in metric units these daysbut will use imperial if necessary. The lathes from arc are all set machines.I have there miniature mill/drill and compound table which I can't fault. However I did have their co baby lathe which I was less than happy with. The larger lathes may be better. Personally I would prefer to buy UK/us its significantly better made and any electronics are far superior. But its down to personal choice as UK and US machines are significantly more expensive.......but you gets what you pay for! Cheers....mick tkay11 1
yamsterman Posted July 8, 2015 Author #101 Posted July 8, 2015 hi all its about time i did some more work on the cross section. armament and breeching ropes completed. ring bolts in place for training tackles. gangboards in place and brackets for skid beams. now the problems. i was unhappy with the stropping on the training tackles so have discombobulated the lot and will start again. should be enough room to get them in! the other two pairs of brackets dont fit! rather than mess about with them i will remake them. apart from the gangboard railings and turning some pedastals down from brass were nearly there. photos of current progress attached. cheers for now.........mick Jason, druxey, mtaylor and 10 others 13
mtaylor Posted July 9, 2015 #102 Posted July 9, 2015 Mick, Looks super nice. Re-check your breeching line length. The look short to my eye. The gun should be able to recoil back so that the muzzle is inside the gunport. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
yamsterman Posted July 9, 2015 Author #103 Posted July 9, 2015 Hi mark I made the breeching rope three times the length of the bore of the gun as per info in swan class practicum. The guns are positioned almost behind the gun port. Still reckon it needs a few extra mm to get to its proper length? No worries there's a couple of other things that need to be redone aswell! Thanks for the heads up Cheers.....mick Canute and mtaylor 2
mtaylor Posted July 9, 2015 #104 Posted July 9, 2015 Mick, Run one back when your reworking and check... It might just be my eyes are deceiving me. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
yamsterman Posted July 10, 2015 Author #105 Posted July 10, 2015 Hi mark It may be that even making the breeching ropes 3x the length of the bore I should perhaps have added even more than I did to allow for the turn around the cascabel and the loop and seizing around the ring bolt. A couple look slightly shorter than the rest. Problem is I've glued the ring bolts in with epoxy resin and the trucks are spot glued to the deck with the same.I don't want too damage anything taking it apart so I may have to leave things as they are and putvit down to experience.....it can join the growing list of things to do better on the next build. Constructive criticism and advice is always welcome....I think I will beneeding plenty when I get round to doing a full hull build! Cheers......mick cog and AnobiumPunctatum 2
mtaylor Posted July 11, 2015 #106 Posted July 11, 2015 No worries, Mick. I'm like you.. I can use the advice, critique, and encouragement. You're doing a super fine job on her. cog 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
cog Posted July 12, 2015 #107 Posted July 12, 2015 Mick, What would modelbuiling be without the helping eye and supportive criticism ... that said, where would be the fun in starting a topic ... I like the progress anyway! mtaylor 1 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
yamsterman Posted July 13, 2015 Author #108 Posted July 13, 2015 Hi Carl Many thanks ....I need thehelping eye these days....even with my glasses on! Supportive criticism is always welcome.....lots of knowledge lurking about with our fellow modelmakers. Cheers....mick cog 1
yamsterman Posted August 2, 2015 Author #109 Posted August 2, 2015 hi all nearly at the end of the road for the triton cross section. just the training tackle to make and may put the railings around the hatchway.... borrowed from the tffm books. photos show cross section in its new home. cheers for now.......mick cog, spasias, dgbot and 4 others 7
cog Posted August 3, 2015 #110 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) magnificent result, Mick, though it does have a slight blue-ish sheen with the glass ... like the display case too! versatile fellow you! Edited August 3, 2015 by cog mtaylor and Canute 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
UpstateNY Posted August 3, 2015 #111 Posted August 3, 2015 Simply beautiful... congratulations. Cheers, Nigel.. Canute 1 Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild
yamsterman Posted August 4, 2015 Author #112 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Carl Thank you!its been a labour of love.....you're right about the blueish tint...strange that...looks crystal clear in daylight. I didn't make the acrylic case I brought it from an online supplier,but not the usual company I use.....mainly because it was half the normal price! Maybe they use a slightly different acrylic....or it could be me half asleep taking photos! I did make the base....most core with cherry veneered quadrantmoulding and a bit of madronna burr for the base. Cheers.....mick mtaylor and cog 2
yamsterman Posted August 4, 2015 Author #113 Posted August 4, 2015 Most core? Should read mdf core....oops Cheers ....mick cog and mtaylor 2
yamsterman Posted August 4, 2015 Author #114 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Nigel Thank you.....looking forward to seeing you're finished triton cross section.perseverance is the name of the game.....I think its been about a year...ish to get to the home straight! Cheers....mick UpstateNY 1
Kevin Posted August 4, 2015 #115 Posted August 4, 2015 I am so pleased to have followed your build - lovely work mtaylor 1 Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
cog Posted August 4, 2015 #116 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Carl Thank you!its been a labour of love.....you're right about the blueish tint...strange that...looks crystal clear in daylight. I didn't make the acrylic case I brought it from an online supplier,but not the usual company I use.....mainly because it was half the normal price! Maybe they use a slightly different acrylic....or it could be me half asleep taking photos! I did make the base....most core with cherry veneered quadrantmoulding and a bit of madronna burr for the base. Cheers.....mick Probably the way the light is broken in the accryl. It does have the property to show blue-ish. Hmmm, most <=> mdf ... your mind played you tricks too mtaylor and Canute 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
yamsterman Posted August 4, 2015 Author #117 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Carl Once the training tackles are made up and the stanchions for the hatchway I will take some final photos for the gallery...in natural daylight not at 11o clock at night hopefully there won't be any blue tints. Most=mdf. Predictive texton my tablet.....I will work out how to turn it offone day! Cheers.....mick mtaylor, Canute and cog 3
yamsterman Posted August 4, 2015 Author #118 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Kevin Thanks for following along! It's been an interesting experience as an introduction to p.o.f. building.......I think I'm hooked and the dark side cometh! Thanks have to go to all the staff/moderators who did the primary research and drew up the plans and made them available on the forum. I recommend the project to any body with a couple of kits under their belt. Next up is a fully framed hull with all those lovely frames and cants! Cheers....mick mtaylor 1
cog Posted August 4, 2015 #119 Posted August 4, 2015 Hi Carl Once the training tackles are made up and the stanchions for the hatchway I will take some final photos for the gallery...in natural daylight not at 11o clock at night hopefully there won't be any blue tints. Most=mdf. Predictive texton my tablet.....I will work out how to turn it offone day! Cheers.....mick Yes, when you've got a new one, with a different OS Cheers mate ... Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
yamsterman Posted August 5, 2015 Author #120 Posted August 5, 2015 Hi Carl New tab will have to wait....just ordered my boxwood for the next pof project...and a new 4k uhd TV.....and a delve into the past with a plastic kit plus photoetch......must stop spending money!!!!! Cheers....mick Canute and cog 2
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