Ferit Posted August 4, 2013 Share #241 Posted August 4, 2013 She is taking shape... Shrouds look great and strict... in addition, fuzz free ropes change many things... And when the ratlines are knitted, so nice and beautiful she will be... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 4, 2013 Share #242 Posted August 4, 2013 hello lamarvalleyI think you did a beautiful job on your sf but I just see two major flaws:the first guy is too lowamounts of your mastheads are too coarse: the sailors would have more room to slip inyour balcony: have you planned an anti slip coating for marine falls in water?make and break for ateindre best motivation is that you should keep in mindcordiallybruno Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 4, 2013 Share #243 Posted August 4, 2013 soory i would say guying Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 4, 2013 Share #244 Posted August 4, 2013 just to justify that i was saying: Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 4, 2013 Share #245 Posted August 4, 2013 the course of sheep near the bow! the cables on are the guying! or shroud? Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 5, 2013 Share #246 Posted August 5, 2013 Hi Randy, Shrouds looking good. Maybe it helps a little but I'm also almost at the part of ratlines on the Mirage……. I hope today finishing the shrouds and then tomorrow ratlines time. The only thing is ,I have a few more ratlines then you have Ferit 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 5, 2013 Share #247 Posted August 5, 2013 i'm calling from france ,in bretagne ,where all beautifull french ship gone to sea like "soleil royal" Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timhoffman Posted August 5, 2013 Share #248 Posted August 5, 2013 This looks really amazing! Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted August 5, 2013 Share #249 Posted August 5, 2013 well done Randy Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 6, 2013 Share #250 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Randy, I see that you all ready started with those ratlines. Are you using the Clove Hitch? Later this day I can also make a start at that. Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 6, 2013 Share #251 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Randy, Be careful and notice that your ratlines are not straight. Some are lower on the same rope then the other. I mean the knots….. When you tide them up, drop a little glue on the knot and then use a tweezer to make the knot in the right place and let the rope goes with the line on the template. Then it goes straight…... They are not terrible but you can do better ! And you can always do the same thing as I do. Make another row between the ones who are all ready there. If you have any question about it or you want to see a picture how I do it, please let me know. I have to work tomorrow and when I get home I shall look for your replay. Don't give up my friend. You are on the right track !!!! lamarvalley, Ferit and Adrieke 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted August 6, 2013 Share #252 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Randy, I think, maybe I am wrong, that for the rope of ratlines, more thinner it's more accurate and beautiful... I liked your choice... After a little scroll and pull to make them parallel to ground they will be more beautiful... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted August 6, 2013 Share #253 Posted August 6, 2013 Randy, for a shot at ratlines you did pretty darn good! Always room for improvement but those are not that bad at all! nice Job! -Adam Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted August 8, 2013 Share #254 Posted August 8, 2013 Hi Randy, Be careful and notice that your ratlines are not straight. Some are lower on the same rope then the other. I mean the knots….. When you tide them up, drop a little glue on the knot and then use a tweezer to make the knot in the right place and let the rope goes with the line on the template. Then it goes straight…... They are not terrible but you can do better ! And you can always do the same thing as I do. Make another row between the ones who are all ready there. If you have any question about it or you want to see a picture how I do it, please let me know. I have to work tomorrow and when I get home I shall look for your replay. Don't give up my friend. You are on the right track !!!! look at Sjors he is now already giving advice on making ratlines Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 8, 2013 Share #255 Posted August 8, 2013 You know a good friend have to say when you are on the wrong track, and is not to hurt you but well to be progressed!I am registered on a naval forum in France or the administrator(director) who is one truths naval encyclopedia gives you the slightest small defect and urges you to improve you permanently and of the kept silent blow consider diférement at the models!Am not afraid of questioning you because you are on the right track Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted August 8, 2013 Share #256 Posted August 8, 2013 only a true friend will tell you when you have a booger on your face. Personally I thought they looked fine. The ratline should be smaller diameter rope then the shrouds also. I see too many where there isn't a significant difference between the 2. The only issue I saw was the knots/hitching size. Seems I read somewhere that in the scale models the clove hitch which is really the correct method produces a TOO large knot and there was another hitch that was smaller and looked less bulky. I don't even reallly see this as an issue except as ratline go up the shroud and get bunched toward the top. But one things for sure, Randy does NOT do A- work or even A for that matter..... its 100% or nothing. The urge to "get on with it" I think is the worst monkey on any builders back. As Dubz calls it "deconstruction" is just as important as construction. For those of us building our first few models, I don't see issue with redoing and learning. As I know, your alot like me on that topic. It's not just about doing it, but more about understanding it and learning the art of tall ship construction and engineering. Sorry I haven't been around much, luckily most of the time I was under the weather you were awaiting parts. No matter the ultimate outcome will be one of the SF standards for future builders to learn from. Seeing you struggle helps them understand that ship building is about perseverance and determination... and fun If your still having fun then your doing it right. Too Florencia Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 8, 2013 Share #257 Posted August 8, 2013 Hi Randy, For a first time effort you've done a really good job, yes there are a few problems and I have to agree with what's already been said but give yourself a great big pat on the back. With every ship we build we learn something new every day, it's why we do it. So keep it up and continue to enjoy the journey. Again, very well done. mobbsie ronkh 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 8, 2013 Share #258 Posted August 8, 2013 Hi Randy, When you take a look at my build you will see that I have re-done a few ratlines. That's also a part of the learning curve….. Take your benefit with it ! I know you can do it ! And for two builds together…..I had also the same toughest about it. When I started a new one, the other one will be never finished. But now I found out that it is nice to have a few builds together. When I'm tiered of the ratlines ,I can do wood work on the San Ildefonso. And the Mirage is still going on lamarvalley 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 8, 2013 Share #259 Posted August 8, 2013 See you can do it !!!!!!!!!! Very nice ! Chapeau…( French ) Keep on going and it goes better all the time and maybe in the future you gonna like it ! We have both a BIG day today. We can be proud of our selfs ! I see Popeye are doing it some where but now I want to do it also with you….HIGH FIVE lamarvalley 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofencer29350 Posted August 8, 2013 Share #260 Posted August 8, 2013 chapeau,bravo!in french! YES YOU CAN! lamarvalley 1 Quote Of the bank I look at an ocean of pleasure, or the tumult attracts you, this global movement will be your tipcart! current build: royal caroline buid finished: la recouvrancehttp://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3025-la-recouvrance-by-ofencer29350/page-2?hl=recouvrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 8, 2013 Share #261 Posted August 8, 2013 Great Job Randy, well done. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted August 9, 2013 Share #262 Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) I think; In fact making the ratlines seems boring when you look your ratlines from outside... But once you get into the work, you find yourself climbing, one by one, to the crow's nest... You don't want leave the work until you feel tired... But the essential is that when you are on the shrouds, look never upward, but downward, consistently... Your ratlines look very nice, much better, Randy... When all finished, they will be more greater than you are thinking they must be... Edited August 9, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon augie 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted August 10, 2013 Share #263 Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) "When all finished, they will be more greater than you are thinking they must be..." Super work Randy, really super!... That is not for encouragement... I say what I see and what I feel... Edited August 10, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon lamarvalley and Sjors 2 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 10, 2013 Share #264 Posted August 10, 2013 You are quicker then I am Randy ! Looks great ! Well done on the job ! Only one more thing….I hardly want to say it…….a little bit higher with the ratlines? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted August 10, 2013 Share #265 Posted August 10, 2013 Looking very neat Randy, Well done. Give yourself a compliment, sit back and enjoy it. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted August 10, 2013 Share #266 Posted August 10, 2013 Looking nice Randy. Sjors wants them higher........just remember that he lives in the 'low countries' mtaylor, lamarvalley and Sjors 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted August 12, 2013 Share #267 Posted August 12, 2013 well done Randy!!! Gee, I go away for a week and I find both you and Sjors have conquered the dreaded rat lines I think you both found there was nothing to be of. lamarvalley and Sjors 2 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted August 12, 2013 Share #268 Posted August 12, 2013 Nice rope work to accent your beautiful wood work. Looking at that broadside photo reminds me of why I love the Galeons, oh so much. I'd say your a man outstanting in his field but for you - your a man outstanding in his valley lamarvalley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 12, 2013 Share #269 Posted August 12, 2013 Nice work Randy, it does get easier as you move along, just think how much easier the Port side will be. Keep it up mate. Mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarinid Posted August 14, 2013 Share #270 Posted August 14, 2013 Looking good Randy! I hope when I get to mine they will be as nice. Quote Mark S. 1st Build : John Alden Sloop / kit bashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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