pete48 Posted August 11, 2014 #1 Posted August 11, 2014 Let Me start by saying "These are some pretty amazing racing Machines" . The Volvo Ocean Race is an Around the World Race , The Open 70 class is the largest , I am using plans that I got off the internet ( lines drawing ) for the Camper Volvo 70 wich was the 2011-2012 New Zealand Boat . I am building her in a 1/4" = 1' - 0" scale so she will be about 17 1/2" long wich is perfect to free Sail . So I will build her to Sail. I will use Basswood for the Backbone ( Keel ) Frames and Planking . I will also be doing the 2 part West System on the hull, so she will be plenty strong. This morning I got up and had coffe , and after spraying the final coat of white on America3 , I went to kinkos with my flash drive, and had the drawings enlarged to scale, printed them out and went to Michael's for the wood, I am planning on my own color scheme for this one as well as doing some things that I had seen on some of the other boats , So it would be my entry for this years 2014-2015 race. and that's part of the Fun ( That is what it's all about ) Here is where I am at : egkb, avsjerome2003, Omega1234 and 9 others 12 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Piet Posted August 11, 2014 #2 Posted August 11, 2014 Wow, that's raw power Pete! It'll be interesting how your model will do. Safe me a seat, okay? You certainly do some amazing things with your models! Cheers, pete48 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #3 Posted August 12, 2014 Pete We are linning up again. Cheers Geoff Thank's Geoff, I am glad that you are going to follow along . This build just fell in my lap , I don't know that much about these Boats ,Last time I followed Around the World Races it was called the Whitbread race. So I may learn somthing along the way. It looks like it will be alot of fun to build . And we will get to see her sail. Best Regards, Pete piperjoe, avsjerome2003, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 12, 2014 #4 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) This is going to be an interesting built. I always watch these races when National Geographic has made a movie from it. I'll be following this one. The name Whitbread race has been around for a long time. This is also a race where people die while sailing. Especially around the 70's where there wasn't as much modern technology. It is the ultimate sailing experience. Marc Edited August 12, 2014 by Marcus Botanicus pete48 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #5 Posted August 12, 2014 Wow, that's raw power Pete! It'll be interesting how your model will do. Safe me a seat, okay? You certainly do some amazing things with your models! Cheers, Hi Piet, there is always a seat , this one should be alot of fun. I will cut the Keel and frames out tomorrow , She's a very straight forward boat , so it should go without a hitch Best Regards, Pete Piet, flying_dutchman2, avsjerome2003 and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #6 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) This is going to be an interesting built. I always watch these races when National Geographic has made a movie from it. I'll be following this one. Marc Welcome aboard Marc , these boats are fascinating , This to me is Extreme Sailing , and I would definatly like to sail one of these. Best Regards, Pete Edited August 12, 2014 by Pete48 avsjerome2003, Piet and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 12, 2014 #7 Posted August 12, 2014 Here is a bit of history for everyone. Notice when they first started that there were many more boats/crew than the present? http://www.kriter.tv/history/whitbread_history.pdf Marc pete48 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #8 Posted August 12, 2014 Thank's Marc, I noticed that as well less boats/crews , that's why it was easy to obtain lines drawings for the older boats ( right off the net ) I am a student of this racing series, so I appreciate the help. Best Regards, Pete flying_dutchman2, avsjerome2003 and Piet 3 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Jay 1 Posted August 12, 2014 #9 Posted August 12, 2014 I'll be following along as well, Pete--she looks like she'll be a fun build! Cheers, Jay pete48 1 Quote Current Build: Ariel
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #10 Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Hi Jay, It is Awesome how this boat appeared at the exact right time , and all the info to build her . When it falls together like that it, It's always a fun build. I am excited about this one Best Regards, Pete Edited August 12, 2014 by Pete48 piperjoe, flying_dutchman2, Jay 1 and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Jay 1 Posted August 12, 2014 #11 Posted August 12, 2014 Kapow, buddy--you're back up on the bicycle again (one of my sayings is, 'it's not about what made us fall, but rather it's about how we get back up'). You sir are up and building--my hat's off to you! Cheers, Jay pete48 1 Quote Current Build: Ariel
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #12 Posted August 12, 2014 Thank's Jay, thats Great man. You have to do what makes you happy and this build is doing that . Best Regards, Pete Piet, flying_dutchman2, Jay 1 and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Mahuna Posted August 12, 2014 #13 Posted August 12, 2014 Looks like an interesting build. I'll be watching your journey - have fun! Frank pete48 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
Keith_W Posted August 12, 2014 #14 Posted August 12, 2014 I'll be watching this one too. Can I ask - what are the daggerboards for? pete48 1 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
rottger Posted August 12, 2014 #15 Posted August 12, 2014 Pete, If you want to build the winning boat of the 2011-2012 Volvo race you are going to build the wrong one! The French Groupama 4 was the winner . The boat you are showing in post #9 is Hugo Boss not a Volvo 70 but a Imoca 60, these are designed for shorthanded ocean races like the Vendee Globe and Barcelona Race. @Keith, These boats have daggerboarts because they use a canting keel with the ballast attached to it. The keel is only used for maximizing (optimizing) the stability of the boat and has almost no function as creator of lateral lift for upwind purposes. The 2 asymmetric daggerboarts are used for that purpose. These Volvo 70 are amazing boats and I look forward to follow your build! Hans pete48, Piet and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote
usedtosail Posted August 12, 2014 #16 Posted August 12, 2014 I am going to enjoy following this build too. Plus, I love those racing photos you include in your posts. pete48 1 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Ochre Beagle Completed: Vanguard Speedy, Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , Mamoli HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild
hexnut Posted August 12, 2014 #17 Posted August 12, 2014 Cool. These boats have some great hull graphics. Love the Brunel, Telefonica and Maserati boats... pete48, Elmer Cornish and flying_dutchman2 3 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #18 Posted August 12, 2014 Looks like an interesting build. I'll be watching your journey - have fun! Frank Thank you Frank, It should be alot of fun and a learning experience at the same time Best Regards, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #19 Posted August 12, 2014 Thanks Keith, , Welcome aboard, Hans Answered the dagger board question, (I wont be adding the dagger boards, as I intend to sail this one and the Keel should be enough ) Thank you Hans, I am a student of the series, and I appreciate the help Thanks Tom , thats part of the fun, seeing the boats in action Thanks Bob, The graphics are very cool on these boats , I am using the Brunel boat for my sail plan ( sweet looking boat ) I did not see the maserati boat , that's Awesome , should be a fun project Best Regards, Pete piperjoe, hexnut, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 12, 2014 #20 Posted August 12, 2014 Can I ask - what are the daggerboards for? Dutch flat bottom boats have these as well, it is like a keel. But these boats have a keel, so my guess is to give them extra stability. Marc pete48 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #21 Posted August 12, 2014 Thank you Marc, Hans explained it like this I quote ) These boats have daggerboarts because they use a canting keel with the ballast attached to it. The keel is only used for maximizing (optimizing) the stability of the boat and has almost no function as creator of lateral lift for upwind purposes. The 2 asymmetric daggerboarts are used for that purpose. Makes sense to me Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 12, 2014 #22 Posted August 12, 2014 Here is a Dutch guy who built the ABN-AMRO as an RC pond yacht http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Album-HB6GKQON-Foto's-in-Nootdorp.html Update from the above guy. http://s694.photobucket.com/user/noordje_01/library/?sort=6&mediafilter=pendingcomments&page=1 Pete, where are you getting your plans from? Marc pete48 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
pete48 Posted August 12, 2014 Author #23 Posted August 12, 2014 Hi Marc, for this boat I got the lines drawing off the net , and am using the Brunel Sail plan. here is the lines drawing Best Regards, Pete hexnut, flying_dutchman2, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
rottger Posted August 12, 2014 #24 Posted August 12, 2014 Pete, The Brunel is a new one design Volvo 65 used for the 2014-2015 Race. This is the first time The Volvo race uses an One-Design boat. The Brunel rig is not identical to a Volvo 70 rig! It is up to you if you want to build a imaginary Volvo boat, or you would like to have some more scale approach, these boats are all very "cool" and a fusion model will be cool also . Some additional information regarding the Daggerboards: The keel is canted to windward from the center of the boat apr. 40-45 degrees. If the boat is canted an other 15 degrees to leeward, the dagger keel is 55-60 degrees of the vertical. the projected area is therefor minimal en so the keel is constructed with the minimal resistance en only used to hold the big led bulb to windward. If you want to see this on youtube look for the Hugo Boss keel walk. This is a Imoca 60 and canted extreme for the promotion video, but the video makes it very clear. Hans flying_dutchman2 and pete48 2 Quote
captainbob Posted August 12, 2014 #25 Posted August 12, 2014 It is expected to see a catamaran fly, but a monohull, that’s something else. I’ll have to watch this. Bob pete48 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
kees de mol Posted August 12, 2014 #26 Posted August 12, 2014 I will follow this build! pete48 1 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #27 Posted August 13, 2014 Thank's Hans, I have been learning alot about these boats and the new rules. Yes I am building a imaginary version based on the camper plans, as a fun project with my own Color sceme . to imagine that I would be entering it into this years race . I know my boat does not meet the new rules changes. They are incredible boats. ( I just discovered them a few weeks ago ) My knowlege of Racing Yacht's is Primarily with the America's Cup Boat's . I am having fun learning about this extreme Sailing Thank's Cap'n'Bob, Pretty wild,I just discovered these Boats Should be fun Thank you Kees,I hope you enjoy it Best Regards, Pete Elmer Cornish 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #28 Posted August 13, 2014 Well, Today I had a great first day with the Boat. I started by laying out the Back bone and setting up the builing jig ( square is square & level is level ) I next cut out the Back bone and layed out the frames, The first thing I changed was the transom , now the deck goes all the way to the transom. I then cut out all the Frames, and started to detail the Cockpit section of the Boat. Next will be to make the Deck sections and detail the Back bone for the Keel ( wich will remain stationary ) I dry fit all the frames to the Back bone, and she is right on the money. ( this was a much needed great first day on the build ) This is quite a different boat, This is the first time I have built anything like this, It's been amazingly fun . Here are the results Nirvana, hexnut, popeye the sailor and 9 others 12 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Jay 1 Posted August 13, 2014 #29 Posted August 13, 2014 Nice work, Pete--everything looks good on the dry fit! It'll be fun watching this beauty unfold--glad you're having fun and getting into the build; that's what it's all about! Cheers, Jay pete48 1 Quote Current Build: Ariel
pete48 Posted August 13, 2014 Author #30 Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks Jay, I am very happy with the dry fit ,every thing lines up perfectly . This is exactly what I needed to do , Before I start the RC USA-98 BMW ORACLE Boat, It;s all about Fun , and Sailing on one of these VOLVO Open 70 boats would be Amazing Best Regards, Pete MEDDO, Piet, Jay 1 and 3 others 6 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
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