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HI EVERYONE,

  IT'S BEEN A WHILE SO I HOPE I STILL KNOW HOW TO POST PICTURES...

 

Hello,

  Well I’m trying to get back into the modeling mode, since I have been away for a while.  Because of work getting crazily out of hand. Well they implemented a new system that is making us work at a snails pace now. Which is a good thing. Cause sometimes enough is enough.  When MSW switch to this new site. I did a model that I never added back to the new site. So I got a little time right now. I built this boat back in April 2012.

MARIO

 

Hello Friends,

 Well I have started. I downloaded the plans to my flash drive. Jumped in the truck. Drove down to the neariest print shop. I had 2 copies of the plans on 17x11 printed up. I ran out the door with plans in hand with a big stupid smile on my face.

So last night I was able to cut out the frames, cleats, stem n stern posts, boat bottom from the plans. They are now glued to the material and ready to be sawed out tonight.

 

MARIO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cut out my frames, stem n stern posts, the fore n aft knees, and the boat bottom. Now I will spend the rest of the day sanding the items cut out and ready them for install. Plus I will experiment with my rove creating. I will show my results later this evening....

So now I'm going to go back at it. Just stopped long enough to finally show some progress my friends


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Still have a bit to sand on the frames and cleats. But did not get to my testing the look of the roves.
On the plans it shows a butt seam of two planks running down the middle of the boat floor. I figured in real life this should not be. Because since the stem n stern posts will reside in their respective positions. Wouldn't this create a week joint? This is just me using assuming things again. So I drew a center line on the floor bottom and repositioned the plank seams.

cheers Mario

So here is a little more progress on the Batteau....
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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cheers Mario
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Hi All,
I decided to go with the idea of using FABRIC PAINT to give the look of nails n roves. I am really not crazy about a lot of those nails n roves to do. Since at a size between .05mm to 1mm, just not worth the trouble for something that would really not be noticed. Plus I am not a fan of trenails and/or nails n roves anyway. Call me crazy but I rather do ratlines. I do really not care for the the look. But I thought I would giver a go...my boat now has a bad case of the pimples. LOL!


If you remember Jeff plans show dashed lines on the frames. Which would assist the builder in faring the frames. So what I did was fare each frame individually before I installed them on the boat floor. I left enough material to finish the faring after the frames were permanently glued into position.
Has with my Bounty Launch build the instructions had me leave off the cant frames till the rest were fared. So I decided to leave off frames D n E nearest to the bow section to fare after the rest of the frames were completed... Once completed I glued them into place and I used frame C as a reference to do frame D and E. I layed my sanding block on frame C and went from there to get them all in line. Using a batten to keep me in line....

Now if you go back to page 1. You will see the that the boat bottom at the stem n stern areas come to a point. The plans had me cut out the stem n stern with a squared joint...So I spoke with Jeff and he did say I was right in deciding to Nip off the boat bottom ends to a squared end and butt he stem n stern post to them...(he is going to correct the plans at a later date)

So here's a few pictures...
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Well I knew things were going too smoothly....

Ok I am now at a stand still. I started to trace out the gar-board strack. Then I transferred it to white card. Then I placed the card gar-board against my frames to see how close I was. Well I was way off. I could not figure out why for the longest time. I took my traced out gar-board and layed it on the plans and it matched perfectly.
You ever get one of those nights that all you do is think and your production is nil. Well after staring at my project and then back to the plans hoping to figure out what was going on, I finally saw it. If you look at my project my flat bottom boat floor is flat. But on the plans it is not so. It curves up slightly at the fore n aft ends. I never saw it till NOW.
So am I correct in assuming that I will not be able to transfer the strakes on the plans to my material. Because measuring from stem to stern on the plans it 15 inches, on my model it's 16 inches. My option is now to mark of my own strakes on the frames and go from there. By creating my own planks. I need to know from you experienced scratch builders that I am making the right decision, and that I am understanding these plans correctly. Since this is all new to me. Thanks for any advice to help me out here....


here's a couple of pictures
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Well who says you don't learn from midwest models. If I had noticed the upward rake of the boat floor I would of gone the way midwest had me build my Dinghy. All I would of done different on the Batteau was cut out the frames about 1 inch longer so when I nail it to the building board. Because the stem n stern posts are much longer then the frames themselves. here is a pic of what I am talking about.
I have to start thinking a different way since this a scratch build. is this what you mean by the dark side.....HAHA!

i recommend anybody building the Batteau to make a building board and invert it as you see my dinghy. It will make thing a whole lot easier....


So now that building board was too late for me to use, I had to fashion one to suit the situation I was now in.....here are the results. Oh please give me your opinions and let me know if i could of done it a better way....
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Well I have been busy this weekend. Here's my progress...



Mario
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Hi All,
A small update. I wanted to show you how I scratch built my planks in detail.....



BFN Mario
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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BATTEAU UPDATE TIME HAS FINALLY COME. BOY THIS HAS BEEN A BUSY MONTH FAMILY WISE BUT I AM BACK AT IT AGAIN


BFN
MARIO
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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A LITTLE MORE PROGRESS ON THE BATTEAU TONIGHT....


BFNMF

MARIO
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Well friends I have added the tholes,,,,cleats,,,,rub rails,,,and another coat of minwax ebony.....


next up the turning of the mast,,,,spare and the swivel cannon...


BFNMF's

Mario


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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Well I decided to finish sealing the boat with sanding sealer. i also decided to build my display board and mount the Batteau before I go on with the spares and such.
If you remember my little board I rigged to help me put the bow in to the flat bottom of the boat which I missed early in the build. Well I decided it made for a nice little display board. A little black felt,,,,,1/8th square basswood for trim, and a couple of left-over barrels from my Bounty Launch and there you go...
I also decided to display the oars and hook pole on the board rather then clutter the inside of the Batteau....

So now it's time to turn thinks and continue on....

here are a few pictures from different angles...


BFNMF..........

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Hi my Friends,
Well it was time to turn the Swivel ½ pounder for the Batteau. Since I did have experience working with Ebony Gabon I knew the warning of the type of wood. You might say you can treat it like a Bee Sting. Some people get stung and get a hard pinch feeling. Few with be rushed to the hospital because the glands swell up and they can't breath.
So with Gabon you should wear a respirator or the very least a paper face mask. Plus eye protection. The danger comes from the dust of the Ebony Gabon. Ebony can cause eye irritation, respiratory problems, or even a skin irritation.
So me I was going to live with the skin irritation if the ebony bothered me. Because from my high school we were taught to never wear long selves when working with a lathe. So no long selves for me in this case....
but with all these negatives with ebony it is a very wonderful wood that was born to be turned... easy to work with. But you must use HSS turning tools because if it's hardness...

SO EVERYONE HERE ARE MY RESULTS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN WITH THIS LITTLE CANNON....

A WHOLE LOT OF PITURES...COMING UP(28)

B y F or N ow M y F riends
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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The Bateau final pic's...
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Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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Mario
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OK I THINK I HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER. I AM VERY GLAD TO ADD THIS BUILD BACK INTO MSW. IT WAS JUST FUN TO DO....

 

TAKE CARE EVERYONE. GOTTA GET BACK TO THE J.O.B. LUNCH IS OVER..............

 

MARIO

Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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It's great to see this one back, Mario.  I guess the only build log missing is the Bounty Launch? <hint><hint>

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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HEY EVERYBODY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. HEY MARK, I DO HAVE THE BUILD LOG HERE OF THE LAUNCH.....

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/849-hms-bounty-launch-by-teleman-116-bashed-completed/?hl=%2Bbounty+%2Blaunch

 

AS FOR THE BAND SAW IT'S FROM MICRO MARK. JUST GOOGLE MICRO MARK AND YOU WILL FIND IT. STILL READING BUILD LOGS. JUST TRYING TO CATCH UP. AS FOR BUILDING, NOT JUST YET'

 

MARIO

Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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  • 7 months later...

wow

"smooth seas do not make good sailors..."

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MY FIRS BUILD : H.M.S BOUNTY (mamoli)

SECOND BUILD :The concord stagecoach 1:12 youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzCs9umWPI 

CURRENTLY BUILD : H.M.S VICTORY (Caldercraft) : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15501-hms-victory-by-michael101-caldercraft-scale-172/

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Greetings Cap'n,

 

Very nice work. Looks like you have everything well in hand.

 

Seeing the Rat Fink brought back memories. I had a model of the Outlaw when I was a kid. Was it tough to resist the temptation to add a couple of Big Daddy touches, such as bubble canopy or chromed Caddy engine? How about a round front end end like on the Orbitron? He was quite the designer.

 

wq3296 

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Thanks Guys,

  Haven't seen this build in a while. You can find free plans on this model at modelshipbuilder.com under Projects. wq3296 I have several vintage model from Big Daddy. I'm saving them for my little boy who wants to build them. According to what I see they are very expensive to buy originals. But I bought them when I was kid to have fun. So boy is going to build them to have fun too.

 

Thanks for your kind words Guys. Have a great day.

 

Mario

Thank You all...

 

Mario

 

 

:piratetongueor4:  :piratetongueor4:

"Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) ;) "

 

 

 

My Builds....

 

BETTEAU WAR OF 1812     BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed)    CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE

 

THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT   VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed)    HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF

 

LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER

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The good news is that there have been a lot of re-issues of the Big Daddy kits, you can get most of 'em fairly cheap, in case you need to...

(They just re-issued the Surfite with a nice bonus figure, BTW...http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/rmx-4347.htm)

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