Amerigo Vespucci 1931 by schiffebastler - Mantua - scale 1:84 - Italian sail training ship build

[fabius.b]

for male genre

singolar :   the word ends in -o   example:     gatto (cat)  

plural:        the word ends in -i    example.     gatti (cats)

 

female genre:

singolar.    the word ends in -a   example   gatta (cat)

plural:        the world ends in -e    example   gatte (cats)

 

when we have not genre we must consider the word that you try in dictionary and you discover also the plural word, such as:

 

vela = sail

vele = sails

 

albero = mast

alberi = masts

[schiffebastler]

This sounds quite simple. Now this build log additionally is becoming an Italien course.

Very well !

[schiffebastler]

Hello fabius,

 

actually I have got only few time, therefore it takes a bit... And in one week we will go for a sailing trip to croatia. But before, on sunday, my daughter has her birthday and of course, this is always an important day....

 

Neverthelesse, with your help I could sort out most of the ropes, thank you very much!

Now, there are a few words remaining... may I ask you again, if you could give me a translation?

This would be great!

 

the words I am missing are:

strangolacani, cappello, drizza, mure, imbrogli, mustacci, ostini

 

Many thanks in forehand.

 

Regards, Joachim

[fabius.b]

Hi Joachim,

 

Strangolacani = is another word to say caricabolina, but also a tipe of slipknot

 

Cappello = is hat, but you must say me the entire sentence. For example "fare cappello" it means when the boat with centerboard turn upside down. I believe in this case, it means a set of cable and pulley, to lift the heaviest part of the bigger sails.

 

Drizza = (plural drizze) are the ropes used to lift the sails, the flagpoles, or the flags

 

Mure = (sing. mura) is a nautical term that means the ship-side from where the wind arrives and is opposite to the direction of the boom.

(we say in italian language:  "mure a dritta" when the wind blow from right to left and the sails are positioned left from longitudinal axis of the boat -  "mure a sinistra" the opposite.)

 

Imbrogli = all the ropes used to close the sails to the flagpole,  (caricabolina, caricascotte, caricamezzi, stangolacani, caricabasso, imbrogli di penna, di gola e di sotto)

 

Mustacci =  are the bowsprit shrouds

 

Ostini = they are two ropes, fixed to the upper masts (named "picco") of mainsail, when we speak about trapezoidal sails (named "vele auriche"). They serves to direct the "picco" and so , the sail.

(you can see the picture below, with vela aurica and picco. The "Ostini" are'nt drawn)

 

 

bye bye

Edited May 11, 2013 by fabius.b

[schiffebastler]

Hi Fabius, you are really a great help for me, thank you again very much!

Due to your help, lots of the ropes I could now identify. Still a problem is for me, that multiples of the ropes are labled with the same words, but it is not clear, to which sail they belong. I think I have to make my own assignment.... But nevertheless, also this plan does not fit totally to the real pictures.....

 

Now I am running in the next problem, After a long time, I took a look into the kit (the last months I made only things which had been anyway not within the kit) and I had to discover, that the kit contains only ONE black and ONE brown rope! No different type of ropes, the same for everything! And I had to discover, that the kit contains only ONE sort of blocks, no more! I will have to sort out the different rope-types and their thickness!

 

Following the links below, you can see lots of different blocks from the Amerigo (pictures from a dockyard time of the vessel):

 

http://www.congedativespucci.it/galleria/camp2006/images/57.jpg

http://www.congedativespucci.it/galleria/camp2006/images/56.jpg

http://www.congedativespucci.it/galleria/camp2006/images/50.jpg

 

So I know, what I have to do......

 

It is a bit disappointing, that such an expensive kit does not contain suitable material and plans for the rigging.

 

 

But first of all, the next few days I will prepare and pack for our sailing trip on the mediterranean see! We have chartered a sailing yacht for the next two weeks in Croatia!

 

 

Everything else, afterwards. Until then

 

Regards, Joachim

Edited May 16, 2013 by schiffebastler

[fabius.b]

Hi Joachim,

You're a lucky man. A Mediterranean sailing trip is one of the best experience you can do. Have a good time! (I'm sure of this)

 

I understand your disappointment, but a kit, althought expensive and detailed, can never be so accurate as a personal research and study, from various sources.

 

I can recommand to visit the vespucci, if you can. Is a beautiful experience, and the real souce of information.

If you want you can phone at Ufficio Cerimoniale della Marina Militare, to La Spezia (It).

 

They can help you, with the program of Vespucci, and the ports that vespucci will visit, next time. telephone number is:  0039 0178/782337

 

Fabio

[schiffebastler]

Thanks for the phone number, Fabio, hope, they can speak english (or german).

Once I visited the Amerigo, but it was in the beginning of the 90th. I took a lot of photos, but most of them are too bad.

A few times I met the Amerigo on the Baltic Sea during sailing trips, but unfortunately we could not meet the vessel in a harbour.

 

Since a long time, I tried to visit the ship again, but from the south of Germay it ist not so easy, all harbours are far away. And then I met my wife, build a house, got two children, a timeconsuming job, my wife has a photo studio.... But my family too likes ships, so one day we will visit the Amerigo all together.

 

But now I am going to prepare the car for our trip!

 

Regards, Joachim

[fabius.b]

Meanwhile, I will telephone monday in the morning, and I will try to know the trip of Vespucci. It may be possible that you could meet during your sail trip. I will post the notice in the evening of monday.

 

Buon vento. (Have a good wind!)

 

fabio

[fabius.b]

I phoned to Ufficio Cerimoniale della Marina Militare di La Spezia. 

The next public open visit of Ship Vespucci, could be November 4, Armed Forces Day, and March 19, San Joseph Day Patron Saint of La Spezia.

(it must be confirmed, because cost containment.)

 

 

Another possibility can be to organize a group visit, by a group of international ship modellers, for example, and ask for authorization to Navy.

Edited May 21, 2013 by fabius.b

[Richard50]

I have enjoyed looking through your build, and what an excellent build it is.  I'm a little way behind you on my build of Amerigo Vespucci but having a great time in building her.  The lifeboats on my model differ from yours, and I wonder if you can tell me where I could obtain the plan; they look as if they might be the original style from 1931.  Like your, there are no propellers supplied with the kit, I too will be including them as a result of seeing what you have done.

 

Thanks for the pleasure of seeing your photos, I will be including more to my build log soon.

 

Best wishes.

[4whelr]

Excellent build. Hope I can become half the ship model builder you are!

[schiffebastler]

Hello everybody,

 

after my holiday I will proceed with the build log soon. But after a really cold holiday, we actually have 38 degrees celcius in Germany, and due to the fact, that my hobby room is in the penthouse, the actual temperature there is about 34 degrees! Not easy to work in it... but on the weekend the big rain is comming back.

 

@fabius, thanks a lot for calling to the Ufficio, it seems that it will take a bit time for me until I will be able to visit the Amerigo

 

@4whelr and @jimbob, thank you for your nice comments!

 

Concerning your questions, jimbob, unfortunately I was not able to achieve a better plan of the boats. Many years ago I got additionally the italien plan from Franco Gay "Amerigo Vespucci - La Nave E Il Modello". It contains a few better informations than included in the kit, but still not sufficient.

Once I detected, that the real boats are different from the plan of the models, I collected lots of pictures of the Amerigo from the internet. Only on basis of these pictures, I designed the boats as close as possible to the real ones. But still there are two older ones which do not really fit to the real boats (maybe I redesign them...).

 

Here I have a link for you where you can find a lot of pictures, maybe it helpes you:

 

http://www.congedativespucci.it/galleria/2011-index.html

 

 

Best regards, Joachim

[schiffebastler]

Hello everybody,

after being back from holiday for a few days, it still takes a few days until I will be able to proceed with my build log. In the meantime I would like to give you some impressions of my sailing trip in Croatia.


After the last years with cold and rainy sailing trips in Netherlands, Our intention for sailing on the Mediterranean Sea was, to get no storm, no rain and warm weather... And we got storm, rain and cold weather... But we also got sunny hours nearly every day, but always followed with storm, rain and cold...

Every day we got at least 5-6 Beaufort, often up to 7 Bf., the weather forecast always had been wrong ... once we got 8 Bf. (more than 40 knots) wind and waves with a hight of 2 meters in open waters! That was really exciting!
 

Here you can see our ship, a "Bavaria 45" which carried us well through heavy seas and strong winds.




So it looks at about 6 Beaufort, ... I mean, it is really great, to sail with maximal hull speed of 9 knots through the water!




In between times we visited some attractions such as the Krka waterfalls - absolute unique! (maybe you remember the Winnetou movies?) By the way, one hour before starting to this trip we got a heavy rain, then sun during the visit and afterwards the rain came back for the whole evening and night.




My children also could manage the ship just fine. While my daughter stears the ship casually over the Krka, my son likes to stear the ship in strong winds, but he is able to do it very well, so I can rest easy and enjoy the ride.

A small view of the innumerable islands of Croatia, with some sun in between really great!




Because of the threatened storm, we layed in a marina in the middle of the lonely cornat islands.




A few cliffs had been there also, and many stones, stones, stones ...




A common sight: bulging sails, as we love it!




and also a common sight: thunderstorms with rain and hail, what we do not love!




On the way I had seen the first waterspout my life 'in real life'! It was a nice, small tornado (maximum 100m in diameter). But did not have a picture of it, because I was afraid that since he is no more, until I had my photo taken.



That's it... Soon I will proceed with the regular build log.

Well then, see you soon, Joachim

Edited July 31, 2017 by schiffebastler
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[gjdale]

Thanks for sharing those photos of your holiday Joachim. Looks like you had a great time and the kids seem to be enjoying themselves too!

[Kevin]

nice to see you safe back on dry land

[md1400cs]

Joachim,

 

Beautiful photos. Beautiful sail boat. How nice that must be to sail in such a nice ship with your family all together. Thanks for sharing with us. Krla waterfalls look so beautiful.

 

PS: I have always wanted to visit Dubrovnik, especially now after it has been "repaired" One day I will.

 

Regards,

 

Michael

[schiffebastler]

Thanks all for your nice words. We really had a great time ... and my kids are already planing for next-years sailing trip

 

But now I have to proceed a bit with the Amerigo...

 

Regards, Joachim

[edmay]

Hello Joachim,A  clean,neat professional build,very nice, I have this model on the shelf but have a few others to finish first,will follow your build. thanks for the pictures.Have a good weekend .Edwin.

[schiffebastler]

Thank you very much Edwin!

Hope I can continue soon, actually, my job is a bit time consuming ....

 

Regards, Joachim

[schiffebastler]

Hello everybody,

now a new part for the Amerigo. Before starting the rigging, there have to be finished the two big (whatever is called 'big') open motor-barkasses, because they have to be fixed on deck and this could be difficult afterwards.

Like all of the boats from the Amerigo, the parts of the kit are not usable and I had to take the pictures as a basis for the proportions, the appearance and the details.

The boat is build on frames with planking outside and a second planking inside the boat after I had broken out the inner frames. The white "thing" in the middle is the motor, the micro boat's propeller (1 mm diameter) is build of small brass foil; the rudder looks a bit special with a pod on top for the flagstick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now the same again for the second boat.

Regards, Joachim

Edited July 31, 2017 by schiffebastler
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[gjdale]

Very nicely done on the boats there Joachim!

[md1400cs]

Joachim,

 

Those boats look really wonderful. Beautiful custom added details...nice update. I'm glad that you have found time to, again, work on this beautiful project.

 

Regards,

 

Michael

[schiffebastler]

Thank you very much Grant and Michael for your kind words!

 

Regards, Joachim

[Mirabell61]

Hi Joachim

an very interesting ship you are showing us, I like your attitude of modeling individual Input and improvements, shall follow further with great interest. Are you intending to doing the complete rigging (inclusive sails) as well ? Keep going, Looks great...., do you have Pictures of the plank on Frame sequences as well

 

Nils

[schiffebastler]

Hi Nils,

 

thanks for your kind words!

And yes, I will do the complete rigging inclusive sails. Since several weeks I am preparing the plans for rigg and belaying.

Unfortunately, I have no pictures from the beginning. Due to personal events I had to interrupt the building for several years. I restartet to build the model last year and made pictures from that time on.

 

By and Tschüss, Joachim

[schiffebastler]

Hello,

 

now the second of the two big open motor-barkasses is ready. Has been build like the first one.

 

some pictures of this boat

 

 

 

 

now a picture of both boats together

 

 

 

I will pause now with the build log for a few weeks. With my family I will go in sommer holiday to the south of France au bord of the mediterranean sea.

So long everybody....

 

 

Regards Joachim

 

 

[Richard50]

Have a good holiday Joachim, I will look forward to seeing the rest of your build lobg.

[WackoWolf]

Joachim,

 

    That is very beautiful on the ships, I am looking forward to seeing more. Please keep the pictures coming, I am always watching.

[md1400cs]

Joachim,

 

Enjoy your time away. Will look forward to your future updates. Your motor barks are so well crafted.....

 

R/  Michael

[schiffebastler]

Thanks a lot to all! It is always a pleasure to read your kind words.

 

After my holidays, I hope, I will have more time for the Amerigo... and it will be easyer to work, because during this summer I measure about 30 to 35 degrees celcius in my hobby-room, and it makes it a bit difficult to work, it is much easier with lower temperature...

 

Regards, Joachim