yamsterman Posted February 22, 2015 #1 Posted February 22, 2015 HI ALL TIME FOR THE FUN TO START. PURCHASED CHUCKS PLANS AND TURNED BRASS CARRONADES/CANNON JUST AFTER CHRISTMAS. USUAL EXCELLENT QUALITY SERVICE FROM CHUCK. HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH CHUCKS BUILD BUT I DOUBT IF I CAN COMPARE WITH THE MASTER!!! BUILD SEQUENCE WILL BASICALLY FOLLOW CHUCKS POSTS . HOWEVER INSTEAD OF USING CASTELLO BOX I WILL BE USING SWISS PEAR AND EBONY FOR ANYTHING PAINTED BLACK IE WALES ,BULWARK CAPPING ETC. I MAY EVEN USE SOME PINK IVORY FOR SOME STRUCTURES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAINTED RED OCHRE, BUT THAT MAY CHANGE AS MY LAST EXPERIMENTS WITH PINK IVORY WERE NOT VERY SUCCESSFUL. WORK HAS ALREADY STARTED ON BASIC COMPONENTS, HAVING PHOTOCOPIED THE RELAVANT BITS OF THE PLANS ( SORRY CHUCK I KNOW YOUR PLANS SAY NO COPYING BUT ITS PURELY FOR MY OWN USE AND I COUNDNT BRING MYSELF TO CUT INTO THE PLANS!!) THEY WERE PASTED ONTO 1/4 BIRCH PLY AND CUT OUT. BEARING IN MIND I DONT OWN A SCROLL SAW AND IF I DID IT WOULD HAVE TO LIVE IN THE GARAGE,TOO COLD TO WORK OUT THERE THIS TIME OF YEAR!,THE COMPONENTS WERE ROUGHED OUT WITH A 10 INCH BAND SAW AND THEN SANDED/FILED TO SHAPE. THE ENCLOSED PHOTOS SHOULD SHOW CURRENT PROGRESS. WORK WONT COMMENCE UNTIL IVE FINISHED THE TRITON CROSS SECTION, I DONT HAVE THE SPACE UNFORTUNATELY FOR TWO CON CURRENT BUILDS. CHEERS.......MICK Mirabell61, GuntherMT, Omega1234 and 10 others 13 Quote
Omega1234 Posted February 23, 2015 #2 Posted February 23, 2015 Hi Mick Nice start! This is looking like she's going to have a beautiful hull, with really nice lines. I'll enjoy following this one, for sure. All the best. Patrick GLakie 1 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
cnemo Posted February 23, 2015 #3 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Hi Mick nice start work. Just a question, are you working in mm or inch unit? Thanks for your reply. cnemo Edited February 23, 2015 by cnemo granta 1 Quote
yamsterman Posted February 23, 2015 Author #4 Posted February 23, 2015 Hi Patrick Thanks! Took some doing by hand I must get round to buying a scroll saw! Been itching to do this since chuck announced it on his website.let's hope I can do it justice! Cheers....mick GLakie and Omega1234 2 Quote
yamsterman Posted February 23, 2015 Author #5 Posted February 23, 2015 Hi cnemo Chucks dimensions are in inch's which I will try and follow. However most of the timber I buy is in mm .so it can be a pain trying to reconcile the two....usually ends up in a fair amount of planing and sanding! Cheers.....mick GLakie and Jack Dusty 2 Quote
Chuck Posted February 23, 2015 #6 Posted February 23, 2015 Great start my friend. I will be following along. Hopefully you wont catch up anytime soon. Also...keep in mind that if you need any parts that I make available for the project in pearwood, I can laser cut them for you. I have the wood for that. Its just special order and will take a few days to cut after you request it. Parts like the windlass and such. Going with a metric size for things like the bu;kheads is no big deal at all. It wont matter as long as you adjust the width of the slots. GLakie and Omega1234 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
cnemo Posted February 24, 2015 #7 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Hi cnemo Chucks dimensions are in inch's which I will try and follow. However most of the timber I buy is in mm .so it can be a pain trying to reconcile the two....usually ends up in a fair amount of planing and sanding! Cheers.....mick Hi Mick and thanks for your reply. Also I will use the unit of measurement in mm. Can you tell me the thickness of the plywood that you used for the keel and the frames? cnemo Edited February 24, 2015 by cnemo Quote
yamsterman Posted February 24, 2015 Author #8 Posted February 24, 2015 Hi chuck Thanks for the likes. I will more than likely be ordering the rigging material from you. Thanks for the offer with the laser cutting but I'm trying to make this as scratch built as possible! I will even have a go at making the blocks. Armament I had to order from you along with the plans as I'm between lathes at the moment. Looking forward to part three.....if I can get my planking half as good as yours I shall be well pleased. Finally just a thank you for all your hard work in making the plans and fittings available as well as taking the time to write a practicum. Cheers....mick GLakie, Jack Dusty, Rustyj and 1 other 4 Quote
yamsterman Posted February 24, 2015 Author #9 Posted February 24, 2015 Hi cnemo I purchased my plywood from an aircraft model specialist in Blackburn,UK. It was quoted as being exactly 1/4inch thick or 6.35mm and after putting a vernier quage at various points was as near as it needs to be. Sometimes 1/4 inch is mixed up with metric 6mm. It was also qoutee as being laser cutting quality. I was pretty impressed with thickness and flatness and I only found one small void whilst cutting out the bulkheads. Cheers....mick GLakie 1 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 26, 2015 Author #10 Posted April 26, 2015 hi all not much progress to report. but we do have a nice pile of components ready to go. have also been trying out chucks edge bending method on a model shipways pinnance kit. i have enclosed some photos of this model for reference purposes. not finished yet and some more sanding yet to do on the hull. far too much glue used on the strake to frame joint and is going to take some cleaning up. lesson learnt! will be restarting in earnest once the triton cross section is finally finished again comments and critisms are greatly appreciated cheers....mick Omega1234, GLakie, UpstateNY and 9 others 12 Quote
GLakie Posted April 27, 2015 #11 Posted April 27, 2015 You're off to a great start Mick! Cheerful looks like it's going to be fun, and a lovely ship to build. Cheers Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Omega1234 Posted April 27, 2015 #12 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Mick You're doing a great job. I love that hull, especially the photo where you can see the internal framework of the hull. Keep the updates coming! Cheers Patrick GLakie 1 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #13 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi George Thanks! Can't wait to get started in earnest but I need to finish the triton cross section first. The model shipways pinnace will be a side project. Cheers...mick GLakie 1 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #14 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Patrick Not too happy with the amount of glue that's squeezed out on the pinnacle hull....gonna take some cleaning up! Itching to get started properly on cheerful. Still following your latest project...totally in awe! I may be venturing into your territory in the future....just picked up aeropiccolas victory in 1/170 scale.......tiny! Cheers....mick Omega1234, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote
cog Posted April 27, 2015 #15 Posted April 27, 2015 That's some smooth planking Mick GLakie 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #16 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Carl Lots of sanding my friend. Those planks of bass wood started out at1/32 inch thick by the time I've cleaned up the interior they will probably be more like 1/64inch. Scary!!! Cheers....mick cog and GLakie 2 Quote
Mirabell61 Posted April 27, 2015 #17 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Mick, very nice start and Progress on Cheerful and pinnace..... Planking on pinnace Looks great Nils GLakie 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
cog Posted April 27, 2015 #18 Posted April 27, 2015 Mick, Translucent jet ...? If not: You can keep on sanding ... GLakie 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted April 27, 2015 #19 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Patrick Not too happy with the amount of glue that's squeezed out on the pinnacle hull....gonna take some cleaning up! Itching to get started properly on cheerful. Still following your latest project...totally in awe! I may be venturing into your territory in the future....just picked up aeropiccolas victory in 1/170 scale.......tiny! Cheers....mick Hi Mick Yep. I just saw your post about Aeropiccola's HMS Victory's kit at 1/170 scale, which should be nice but challenging. Out of interest, how big will the hull be? My Victory was done at 1/192 and that came out at about 12 inches overall. I'm looking forward to your updates on Cheerful as well the Victory. All the best! Cheers Patrick GLakie and cog 2 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
Guest Tim I. Posted April 27, 2015 #20 Posted April 27, 2015 Mick, Just getting caught up on your build log. Looking forward to watching your Cheerful take shape! - Tim Quote
Canute Posted April 27, 2015 #21 Posted April 27, 2015 Nice planking on the pinnace, Mick. What's your technique for the glue squeeze on the inside? The reason I ask, I have that happening on my Bounty Launch, so I'm scaling back on the glue, but I do have some glue blobs to be removed. I have some narrow chisels and a tool meant to scrape molded on details from plastic railway cars. GLakie 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #22 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi nils Thanks! Long way too go yet.planking on the pinnacle was a test of chucks edge bending method....it worked! But this basswood is awfully soft...getting very thin! Cheers....mick GLakie 1 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #23 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Carl Translucent is an understatement!!! I think it may become invisible! Cheers...mick cog and GLakie 2 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #24 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Tim Itching to get started! So many models to make...so little time!! Cheers....mick GLakie 1 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #25 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi ken I think I will be going for the thin chisel followed by some fine sandpaper glued to a shaped block.any glue above the level of the tharwts doesn't really matter as there is a layer of planking above them plus the capping rail. The bottom of the hull will be covered by the bottom boards....but still needs to be as clean as possible. Nothing worse than a blob of glue poking its nose out on a finished model!! Cheers....mick GLakie and Canute 2 Quote
yamsterman Posted April 27, 2015 Author #26 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi Patrick Just did a quick measurement of the supplied plans. Stem to stern(aft rabet to fore rabet...ish) is 13 inches. I will check this with the plans in longridges book which are 1/192 and see what the difference is. I don't fully trust the scale quoted on commercial kits! Cheers....mick Omega1234 and GLakie 2 Quote
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