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I spent quite a bit of time learning how to read the Mamoli rigging plans. Since there were no explicit instructions on how to interpret the drawings I spent a great deal of time looking through them before I figured out their method. Once I did, it was pretty straight forward. I thought perhaps others might find this useful. Perhaps this is how all rigging plans are done. Since the Connie is my first kit, I have no reference. I also need to mention this kit was purchased in 1991 so it may have changed. However for what it is worth here is how my plans are interpretted.

 

There are two tables on each rigging page. The first table is on the right and lists all the parts, this is standard on all the Mamoli pages. However the second table, placed directly to the left of the first left is only on the rigging pages. the tables are not really labeled or numbered but they are consistent on how they arrange them. The only difference is where they are placed on the plan.

 

For this illustration I will show how to interpret the rigging on the Mizzen (part o552) circled on the drawing. Here is a copy of the appropriate section from the plans:

 

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This shows a rigging set running from the tip of one of the Mizzen booms to the cap just above the Main Mast's fighting top.

 

First we need to see what the parts are for this rigging. The size of the line, the size of the blocks, etc. For this we turn to the right most table on the plans. This table is on all of the plans an lists the all the parts of the ship as well as the various sizes. In some cases, the part number might refer to a different page of the plans if the part was installed much earlier so you might have to refer back to another page of drawings. Here is a copy of the section in the table dealing with the rigging for this piece.

 

 

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We can see here that 0552 (o552 in the above drawing) is labeled Braccio (which means "Arm"), the second column tell us that the amount is the same as the above parts, which is 2, although you can't see that in this photo. More importantly, the second column from the right says 0,25, which means this is the 0.25mm line. So now we know the size of the line, let's see where it runs.

 

The second table directly to the left of the parts list table contains the order a line runs by listing the part numbers in the order they go starting at the lines termination in the rigging and ending at the termination on the deck. The entry for 0552 shows 0552 D = 0554+055+0554+0556 (fig 10). This is chock full of valuable information. Ignore the pencil marks, that is how I track when I install a line. First the line will start at at part 0554. We can look on the first chart and see 0554 is a block (Bozello) that is made of walnut and is a single 4mm block (1x4). This also refers to a figure (fig. 10) for more information. This figure is shown below:

 

post-10450-0-81320400-1419391211_thumb.jpg

 

This shows the manner the blocks are attached to the mast cap. If we want more information on the rings we can refer back to the first drawing of the rigging and see this part is 0553. Referring back to the first table we can see that part 0553 is a 3mm brass eye ring (Anello con Gambo = Ring with shank) the OTN refers to a table in the general instructions that shows it is made of brass.

 

post-10450-0-18383300-1419390623_thumb.jpg

 

So after the two rings are installed on the cap, the block is added with the .25mm line attached to it. This then runs to the block 0555. The table tells us this is also a 1x4 walnut block that is attached to the end of the spar. The line then returns to 0554 and runs toward the deck. As a note here, if the line also went through the fighting top, that too would have been listed in the order the line ran through it. In this case it does not but goes directly from the block (0554) to part 0556, which table 1 informs us is a belaying pin (Caviglia). The termination point is shown not only in the table but also in the rigging diagram. The sheet also has a diagram showing the layout of the termination points when viewed from the rigging.

 

 

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From this we can see that 0556 is the third belaying pin aft in the 4 pin belaying rack located on the starboard side between the two fife rails. The port side has a matching set for the matching mirrored rigging set.

 

So that is it. A further note on terminations, if a line terminates tied to a side shroud, the shroud grouping is noted and it is numbered from front to back. So the rigging drawing would show the shroud set from the side and give you the number it would be referred to as.

 

This would look like the following:

 

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Any lines terminating on one of these shrouds will be labeled 16(x) with x being the number of the shroud from the bow.

 

The following drawing shows how this shroud is referred to int he rigging drawing.

 

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So this shows the top line would terminate on shroud set 16 on the 6th shroud. The one below is marked to terminate on the 5th shroud. It is hard to read but you can see my pencil marks to the left of the number.

 

So this is how the rigging plans work. I stopped working the lines from the top of the table down since they tended to number the lines from the bottom up. This meant that the top lines which normally run down the center of the ship, had to be fished through the other lines. However, other than that, I have ben following these diagrams pretty much as they are drawn.

 

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Edited by robnbill

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

Posted

Bill, thanks for the explanation. When I get to the stage of building a Connie or any Mamoli kit, this will be very handy.

 

Have a Merry Christmas.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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Posted

Your timing couldn't have been more perfect. I am just beginning to rig my Mamoli Rattlesnake and it uses the same nomenclature. You've made my work much easier. Thanks

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
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Posted

One other note: Sometimes they will have a part shown with Dx or Sx (or both) next to the number in the plan. Dx means Starboard side, the D = "Dritta or Starboard". Sx means Port side S= "Sinistra or Port".

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

Posted

Thanks for all the explanations and pictures.

All the best and a nice Christmas and Happy new year

Cristi

Current build : Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale

              

 

 

Finished:        San John the Baptist - Cross section

                    Santisima Trinidad - Cross section                  Galery Santisima 

                    San John the Baptist ( San Juan Bautista)    Galery  San John

                    HMS Victory 1805 - Cross section - Corel 1:98 scale 

                    Panart (Mantua) 740 Battle Station          Battle Station Panart 740 Galerry

                   

On Hold:        HMS Bounty 1:64   Mamoli MV39

 

  • 2 years later...
Posted

 That concise little tutorial is going to be SO helpful when I reach the point of rigging the Mamoli HMS Victory model I recently received as a gift. Once I went over the plans a few times with your outline close at hand, I found to my pleasant surprise that the system you described actually should make the whole rigging process faster and easier. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with your fellow model shipwrights.

Ciao,

Professor

Posted (edited)

You are welcome. I am glad it helps. It took me awhile before I figured it out and then it became clear. They really did a great job on explaining where each line went.

Edited by robnbill

Bill

Chantilly, VA

 

Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon!

 

Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle

 

Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli

Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli

 

  • 1 year later...
Posted
On 12/24/2014 at 4:14 AM, robnbill said:

I spent quite a bit of time learning how to read the Mamoli rigging plans. Since there were no explicit instructions on how to interpret the drawings I spent a great deal of time looking through them before I figured out their method. Once I did, it was pretty straight forward. I thought perhaps others might find this useful. Perhaps this is how all rigging plans are done. Since the Connie is my first kit, I have no reference. I also need to mention this kit was purchased in 1991 so it may have changed. However for what it is worth here is how my plans are interpretted.

 

There are two tables on each rigging page. The first table is on the right and lists all the parts, this is standard on all the Mamoli pages. However the second table, placed directly to the left of the first left is only on the rigging pages. the tables are not really labeled or numbered but they are consistent on how they arrange them. The only difference is where they are placed on the plan.

 

For this illustration I will show how to interpret the rigging on the Mizzen (part o552) circled on the drawing. Here is a copy of the appropriate section from the plans:

 

post-10450-0-24364800-1419388936_thumb.jpg

 

This shows a rigging set running from the tip of one of the Mizzen booms to the cap just above the Main Mast's fighting top.

 

First we need to see what the parts are for this rigging. The size of the line, the size of the blocks, etc. For this we turn to the right most table on the plans. This table is on all of the plans an lists the all the parts of the ship as well as the various sizes. In some cases, the part number might refer to a different page of the plans if the part was installed much earlier so you might have to refer back to another page of drawings. Here is a copy of the section in the table dealing with the rigging for this piece.

 

 

post-10450-0-46840700-1419389362_thumb.jpg

 

We can see here that 0552 (o552 in the above drawing) is labeled Braccio (which means "Arm"), the second column tell us that the amount is the same as the above parts, which is 2, although you can't see that in this photo. More importantly, the second column from the right says 0,25, which means this is the 0.25mm line. So now we know the size of the line, let's see where it runs.

 

The second table directly to the left of the parts list table contains the order a line runs by listing the part numbers in the order they go starting at the lines termination in the rigging and ending at the termination on the deck. The entry for 0552 shows 0552 D = 0554+055+0554+0556 (fig 10). This is chock full of valuable information. Ignore the pencil marks, that is how I track when I install a line. First the line will start at at part 0554. We can look on the first chart and see 0554 is a block (Bozello) that is made of walnut and is a single 4mm block (1x4). This also refers to a figure (fig. 10) for more information. This figure is shown below:

 

post-10450-0-81320400-1419391211_thumb.jpg

 

This shows the manner the blocks are attached to the mast cap. If we want more information on the rings we can refer back to the first drawing of the rigging and see this part is 0553. Referring back to the first table we can see that part 0553 is a 3mm brass eye ring (Anello con Gambo = Ring with shank) the OTN refers to a table in the general instructions that shows it is made of brass.

 

post-10450-0-18383300-1419390623_thumb.jpg

 

So after the two rings are installed on the cap, the block is added with the .25mm line attached to it. This then runs to the block 0555. The table tells us this is also a 1x4 walnut block that is attached to the end of the spar. The line then returns to 0554 and runs toward the deck. As a note here, if the line also went through the fighting top, that too would have been listed in the order the line ran through it. In this case it does not but goes directly from the block (0554) to part 0556, which table 1 informs us is a belaying pin (Caviglia). The termination point is shown not only in the table but also in the rigging diagram. The sheet also has a diagram showing the layout of the termination points when viewed from the rigging.

 

 

post-10450-0-76228600-1419392105_thumb.jpg

 

From this we can see that 0556 is the third belaying pin aft in the 4 pin belaying rack located on the starboard side between the two fife rails. The port side has a matching set for the matching mirrored rigging set.

 

So that is it. A further note on terminations, if a line terminates tied to a side shroud, the shroud grouping is noted and it is numbered from front to back. So the rigging drawing would show the shroud set from the side and give you the number it would be referred to as.

 

This would look like the following:

 

post-10450-0-10336400-1419392905_thumb.jpg

 

Any lines terminating on one of these shrouds will be labeled 16(x) with x being the number of the shroud from the bow.

 

The following drawing shows how this shroud is referred to int he rigging drawing.

 

post-10450-0-83667600-1419393057_thumb.jpg

 

So this shows the top line would terminate on shroud set 16 on the 6th shroud. The one below is marked to terminate on the 5th shroud. It is hard to read but you can see my pencil marks to the left of the number.

 

So this is how the rigging plans work. I stopped working the lines from the top of the table down since they tended to number the lines from the bottom up. This meant that the top lines which normally run down the center of the ship, had to be fished through the other lines. However, other than that, I have ben following these diagrams pretty much as they are drawn.

 

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post-10450-0-46840700-1419389362_thumb.jpg

post-10450-0-18383300-1419390623_thumb.jpg

post-10450-0-81320400-1419391211_thumb.jpg

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Bill,

You are a gent.

 

I have been searching google for days to get some good detailed rigging plans for my victory kit, that will teach me to not read all the instruction sheets, even those way ahead of where I am in the build currently...

 

I will have to dig the box out and have a look , I have been in dry dock for about 6 years now, birth of second child and house move curtailed the build, which is within a month or few of restarting.

 

just need to get enough string to not run out now...

 

regards

 

Spider

  • 2 years later...
Posted

I have the Mamoli Connie that was gifted to me by a friend.  It was started by his father, who finished the hull, but not the masts, yards, or bowsprit.  I'm going to try and finish it for him.  Fortunately he had the set of plans.  Your explanation was excellent.  It took me a lot of time studying the plans to get the hang of it.  As you said they are very detailed with the rigging instructions, but  it helps to have a bit of nautical knowledge.  My big problem is that he also had a large model of the Cutty Sark with everything completed but the yardarms.  Unfortunately, there were no plans.  I'm trying to find plans so I can finish it too, but I can't even find a reference to a large Mamoli Cutty Sark kit.  I bought plans for the Mantua kit, but it's a bit smaller than the model I have.  I can use those plans for the rigging, but not for the yard construction.

 

Posted

When you say it is a bit smaller, just use a ratio of the two sizes to come up with the lengths and diameters of the larger scale model.  Even if you check the basic overall length, mast heights, and/or breadth of each they should be at the same ratio.  Then again, kits are sometimes fraught with errors so the three items may not be the same ratio.  Mast heights might by your best bets to find the ratio for length and the tapered diameters along the spars.  At least they will then be in the same proportion.  You can also look for a set of rigging plans of the Cutty Sark by G.F. Campbell which should be a big help in dimensions of the spars and proper rigging.

 

Allan

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  • 2 months later...
Posted

I have a set of the Mantua/Sergal "Cutty Sark" plans and it looks like that is the kit based on the length of the hull and  since there is no large Mamoli "Cutty  Sark" kit, only the "Mini Mamoli" kit.   It turns out that when you READ the instructions carefully, the mast/yard plans were not full sized as I thought.  The instructions had the actual diameter and length of each mast and yard are printed on the plan next to the piece.  Assuming something isn't the best course of action.   I was confused because when I measured the spars on the plan they were smaller than the printed data.  Finally clicked when I read the note that said that the plans were not actual size, and to use the numbers not the pictures when making the pieces.  I've since made all the masts and spars.

Posted

Thank you for the explanation Robnbill. I was just looking at my rigging plan for the Mamoli Lexington Brig and swiftly put it away again. As it won't be long when i am at the rigging part of the build, your explanation of the Mamoli rigging plans are a god send. As a newbee at ship building my knowledge of the terms and understanding the plans is a huge learning curve. Thanx again.

Davy.

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