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Blue Ensign
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Fine craftmanship IIhan, a very attractive model, a pleasure to see. B.E. -
Hi Jason, The chain may be a tad overscale but not excessively so and will look better once blackened. If it keeps drawing your eye you could always invest in a length of the next smaller available size and decide between the two. Re: micro drills, over here I don't buy them from model suppliers, I tend to use Ebay or from other internet sources which are often cheaper. The same goes for scalpel blades, which are more expensive from model suppliers in packs of 5. I buy them in boxes of 100, much cheaper. Cheers, B.E.
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I tell you dear Daniel I would have finished Pegasus by now but for chasing answers for your quests to settle the minutiae of all things nautical. It's all interesting stuff tho' keep it up M.
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She looks magnificent John, a really fine model, you have every right to feel pleased. B.E.
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Thanks for posting the link to your article Robin, an interesting hypothesis. The stern quarter sketch always gave me trouble with its clear indication of open galleries, as the closed in stern following the 1803 refit is perhaps one of the more confirmed aspects of her Trafalgar appearance. The drawing by Livesay of her stern when she returned after Trafalgar confirms this. B.E.
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I've enjoyed looking thro' your build Bob, a fine looking model. I like what you've done with her, nice combination of timbers and colour scheme. Regards, B.E.
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Those pins are a much better option Evan, will make the task of belaying easier and neater. Cheers, M.
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Hamilton, Greyhound and Blandford were both built at Deptford d/y by the same master shipwright Richard Stacey. Both were commissioned in 1720. There was very little difference in the as built dimensions of the two ships, Blandford being 1 foot longer. Greyhound was broken up in 1741 and Blandford was sold in 1742. We have touched on the rigging aspect of a sixth rate in a separate thread, but personally I would not continue to confuse myself by trying to make sense of the Corel rigging plans, which probably contain many errors. Clear them from your mind and work from the Blandford book. James Lees (Masting and Rigging of English ships of war 1625-1860) also includes a belaying plan for a 1719 establishment sixth rate in his book. B.E.
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I do love the atmosphere you are achieving with your build Frank, great photos. Regards, B.E.
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hamilton, The drawings in the book are at different scales 1:96, 1:48 and 1:192 but no matter. all you need to do is multiply the sizes in the drawings by say 96 and divide by 100 and you will have the measurement relevant to your build, that is supposing the kit is a true 1:100 scale. I wouldn't worry about the rigging at this point; the sizes of all the rigging lines are given in the book in inches circumference which is the norm. To convert say the Main stay which is 101/2" circ. to mm diameter which is the norm for scale line the calculation is:- 10.5" circ divided by 3.142 = 3.342"(dia) x 25.4 = 84.88mm (dia) divided by 100 (your scale) = 0.85mm diameter line (or nearest) Similarly the six pounder guns carried by Blandford are listed as being 7' 6" long, so at your scale that is 90" x 25.4 = 2286mm divided by 100 = 22.86mm long. I think the Blandford book will contain all you need to improve your kit. Hope this helps. Cheers, B.E.
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Hello hamilton, Peter Goodwin does include staysails, and studding sails in the drawings, and he also shows pins in racks attached to the Mizen shrouds,(ok for the period - also indicated by James Lees)) and three pins shown fitted horizontally to a vertical rack attached to the Mizen mast. there are no pins in the cross pieces to the bitts. B.E.
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The more I see of your work Augie the more I like it, Syren is a hugely attractive model. Regards, B.E.
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Sounds like an interesting project. You might find some useful information on traditional wooden boat building in this video. Reference to it was made by a member on the old MSW. If you are in the UK, a visit to Bucklers Hard may provide you with interesting background. http://www.bucklershard.co.uk/ B.E.
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Hammocks were washed in the British Navy, Captains issued orders when and where to be aired to dry on their particular ships. Brian Lavery in his Arming and fitting book devotes a chapter to Hammocks. B.E.
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Don't know how authentic it is Daniel, but here's how the hammocks are stored on the Trimcomalee in low cranes. Also regarding your associated query about access to the shrouds.. It doesn't look that difficult for fit young guys, at least on a Frigate. Regarding the tarring of the canvas covers, I believe this was the case in the early period of use but due to complaints about the stuff getting on the Hammocks and cases the practice was dropped. According to Carr-Laughton the Theseus at the Nile had her hammock cloths painted to represent an additional deck of guns, and he also refers to the Cambridge of 1824 as certainly having this arrangement. He also mentions that perhaps Victory when commissioned in 1803 had gunport painted cloths. Along the waist perhaps as suggested by this Constable sketch drawn of her in the Medway. M
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Shrouds, hammock cranes and how to climb up
Blue Ensign replied to dafi's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I can see the logic of your argument Daniel but such items are not included by Steel as 'Necessary Ropes' yet he mentions Entering ropes and stern ladders. Although I have seen Jacobs ladders rigged on contemporary models, I've not seen those shroud ladders rigged on British ships at least. Perhaps British Tars were more agile than you imagine M. -
I think you'll find that book very useful Hamilton, loads of clear drawings of fittings as well as rigging, and there are rigging size tables included. Cheers, B.E.
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Looks much better Peter B.E.
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Hi Hamilton, the brass etched sets for all their models are available separately, but should be included with the kits to which they relate. The blurb does make reference to etched brass chainplate assemblies with strops, shroud cleats, trucks, stunsail yard brackets as being with the kit. If you want to put your mind at rest drop an email to Jokita:- http://www.jotika-ltd.com/Pages/1024768/Profile.htm#Contact Cheers, B.E.
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Nice progress Peter, a good idea about the boomkins, they won't be needed until you rig the Fore tacks. Regards, B.E.
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Sorry Robert, a senior moment, I knew who I meant.... I think Yes it surely was you. B.E.
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Great close-up shots of your deck planking Jason, love your work on the hooded planks and scarphs. Cheers, B.E.
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For those who may not wish to go to the trouble of making their own serving machines there is one available from Shipahoy Models based in Boston USA. I came across the link on the old MSW. Here are the contact details. Robert Prezioso shipahoymodels@yahoo.com B.E.
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Hate to say this Dave, but I think you've got the stocks on upside down. B.E.
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Hi Martin, how the Euphroe block is attached to its related tackle is also covered by David Antscherl in Volume 1V on page 66 and there is a photo on page 67. The Euphroe is tensioned on the stay by use of a tackle with two single blocks. The upper block is stropped around the Euphroe, and the lower tackle block is seized to the stay. The standing part of the tackle falls was made fast to the Upper block; the running part after reeving thro' both blocks was either hitched to the stay below the lower block or made fast around the tackle. When the lower block is attached to the stay which should be around six scale feet below the mouse (Antscherl) it is a good idea to only temporarily fix it to allow for adjustment of proper tension of the tackle once the crowsfeet have been rigged. On a ship the size of Pegasus the crowsfeet would be of 3/4" circumference line equivalent to 0.1mm diameter line at scale. B.E.
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