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I’m following in the pure tradition of Navy Board style models, Ron, Well that’s my excuse anyway..😉 B.E.
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Post Sixty-four Still with the guns It’s the tweaking that takes the time, adding modified ring bolts, highlighting the missing cap square elements, and touching up the paintwork . Even so I have not made the additions I included on the much smaller guns I fitted on Pegasus, such as pin and chain fastenings for the cap squares, and truck keys. 1099 The hinge bolts for the cap squares are already moulded onto the Indy 24’s but I added the forward part using thin Fibre board. 1100 I also gave an impression of the missing trunnion cap by painting the gun trunnions with a line of Vallejo Black/grey. 1103 I think the effect passes muster given the viewing angle available with the guns in place. 1105 The quoin handle shows up nicely on this shot, and is clearly visible with the gun onboard. 1106 The macros do pick up some flaws, but at normal viewing they look ok. The issue of the square axle/round hole remains, but doesn’t stand out with the guns in place on Indy. 1767 1768 1771 These chunky guns do look impressive lined up along the expanse of the Indy gun deck. 1764 1760 I don’t intend to rig the guns and will glue and pin the carriages thro' the bed to the deck. Not quite the end of the gun story, I have another session when I get around to the carronades, and the remaining 12 pounder longs. Moving onto the centre line fittings now. B.E. 17/08/2023
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Thing is Alan, you can’t see what is just out of shot, tidy it ain’t. I enlarged my work area to take on Indy and the clutter has expanded to fill it.🙄 B.E.
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Blimey Ron, Do you mean the Pony Express no longer runs? B.E.
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Post Sixty-three Guns, guns, and more damned guns. Busy days down at the Gunwharf with production in full swing. 1698 1707 1703 The guns were given a further coat of Vallejo black to ensure that none of the unwanted striations showed through. 1705 1725 Chris was thoughtful enough to include a spare carriage set, and a number of spare wheels and other bits to cater for any mishaps. Just as well, in my case a couple of wheels did ping off into the ether during over enthusiastic de-charring, never to be seen again. 1728 At last, all but two guns more or less finished. The casting of two of the guns failed, and replacements are hopefully en-route from the Foundry. Still some tidying up to do, before a trial fit aboard Indy. B.E. 16/08/2023
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Thanks Dave, It is a representation of a (part) of a cap square designed to be seen from above and aft when fitted on the ship. Chris has designed the carriages with tabs to allow fitting in deck slots for security. The barrels are fitted later thro' the ports so as a practical matter proper cap squares cannot be fitted. I have in mind to tweak matters a little as I am not using the tab system. Cheers, M.
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Post Sixty-two Looking at the Guns -part two The barrels The Main armament consists of 24 pounder long guns, 9½ ft Armstrong pattern versions, reproduced in resin which is the way to go in my opinion. Saves all that brass blackening and includes details such as the touch vent and monogram. 1654 24 pounder Indy gun in the raw. The barrels contain the monogram which can be seen to be there, but difficult to see in detail, except for the cartouche which surrounds it. This surprised me a little as the monogram on the much smaller 9 pounder guns (Sphinx) seemed much better defined, and to my eye look better without a cartouche. Was there ever a cartouche? 5849 Nine pounder Sphinx guns. A small issue maybe for the 24 pounder guns on Indy where this detail will be mostly hidden from close view, but the two 12 pounder Foc’sle guns will be fully on show. There is an alternative should I be motivated to use it. Syren produce delightful little George 111 fibre board monograms in two sizes. 1719 Here is one attached to a damaged 24 pounder, I do prefer the look, but I’ve spent enough time on the guns, and I’ll live with the 24 pounders as is. I will use the alternative Syren monogram detail for the two fully visible 12 pounders. Finishing the barrels 5934(2) With the Sphinx guns (above) I simply washed, dried, and sprayed with fixative before treatment with weathering powders, I used Revell rust, dark brown, and deep black. Buffed up and the gun was good to go. 1659 Not sure that will work with the Indy guns, using this treatment the finish is not satisfactory, and I am concerned about the visible striations running along the barrel. Plan B 1675 The gun is gently cleaned up using 600 grade paper between the reinforcing rings, and painted with Vallejo Black, much improved I think. 1677 1680 1683 1684 So paint and weathering powder it is. B.E. 14/08/2023
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The kit provided guns are overscale, and inaccurate in shape and style. I replaced mine with brass 32mm length guns from RB Models (Poland) but since then resin versions have come onto the market. Vanguard sell six pounder gun sets which you may wish to consider, and I believe Chuck (Syren) also supply resin barrels. While you're at it you may wish to consider the swivels. The Amati supplied versions are awful, I again used brass versions 15mm from RB models which are spot on for scale. These do involve making your own crutches. The Amati gun carriages just about pass muster, but the trucks looked very thin and I also replaced those. B.E.
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Thanks for looking in Timmo, good to hear from you. Even the excellent Vanguard kits still offer a little scope for scratch indulgence. With Sphinx it is the Great cabin and Qtr galleries that mainly sated my desire to meddle, but Chris took away that option with the Indy kit and kindly made the modification for the benefit of kit modellers in general. 😉 Cheers, B.E.
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Thankyou Theo, The Top and butt planking went well, but were I to do it again I would fit that first, after the margin plank. That way I could better work out the planking arrangement after the centre strakes had been fitted. Cheers, B.E.
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Got a nice period look to it, a fine build you should be pleased with, well done.👍 Pegasus is a step up, but she makes a fine model, I think you're more than ready for it. B.E.
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Cheers Chris - worse than I thought. 😄 B.E.
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Not sure enjoyment is the right word Glenn, but there is a satisfaction to be had from a nicely completed set of guns. A bit of overkill with Indy where there are 40 of the beggars to assemble, of which 28 are long guns. There is a lot of work in doing the guns properly - char cleaning, assembly, painting, blackening and adding ironwork, weathering the barrels, rectifying flaws, ........ How would it look without guns I wonder😉 I'm starting with the long guns, and hope to basic assemble four or five per day. Five already done, Twenty-one to go.🙄 onwards... B.E.
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Your ingenuity knows no bounds Nils, and I just love the look of the painted hull, such realism. Regards, B.E.
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All coming together very nicely Glenn, useful to have a look ahead as I slowly move forward. B.E.
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Post Sixty-one Looking at the guns - Part One The carriages are laser cut from 2mm pear and are nicely detailed, incorporating the bracket lines. Part of the design includes a tab at the front end to slot into a mortise in the deck to hold the carriage in place. (The guns are added later) The system should go a long way towards preventing the rattle of loose guns rolling around the lower decks in places they can’t be retrieved. The drawback of this system is that cap squares are of necessity omitted as the guns are fed thro’ the ports to be glued into place. Not much of a loss where the decks are to be closed in, and better than loose cannon. 1687 My first job is to make a simple jig to hold the parts that make up the carriages which consist of four separate pieces for the main structure. 1688 1689 A jig speeds up assembly, and there are a lot to assemble. There is the usual issue of square axles fitting round holes on the trucks. The merest pass with a sanding stick is required to knock the corners off the axles to allow fitment of the trucks. It is a fine line between fit and the square peg in a round hole image. 1691 It is impossible to get a proper fit to the truck with undersized square axles, as the above photo shows. Ideally the axles should be slightly over size to allow for accurate rounding. I suppose they could be shimmed, but that’s a lot of extra work. On a practical note, this deficiency will not stand out once the guns are fitted. The trucks are a miniature delight complete with engraved bolt holes and section joints. There is enough room on the axles for the addition of truck keys for über detailers. As with previous kits I am not generally keen on the supplied eyebolts that represent the hoops on the carriages sides that take the tackle hooks, but with this chunky 24 pdr carriage, they don’t look too bad. I did feel it necessary to modify the one fitting to a ring bolt to take the breeching rope. 1697 In this shot the yet to be blackened ringbolt has replaced one of the supplied eyebolts. The sharp eyed may also notice the handle added to the Quoin. This is simply a short length of wire with a blob of pva on the end. I won’t be using the peg and slot system for gun securing as access to all decks will be available on my build. The tab did prove useful to hold the carriages during painting, and scored each side it snaps cleanly away when finished. In part two I will be looking at the Resin gun barrels. B.E. 10/08/2023
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That certainly didn’t come to mind looking at your coppering Kevin, I think it looks good against the black above the waterline. 👍 B.E.
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Ha, Ha, Alistair, in British parlance reference to a dogs dinner refers to a confused, badly done, mess, or in terms of clothing - overdressed for a particular occasion. Not taken as a compliment in either respect. 😁 B.E.
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Well, thank you Gentlemen, with such advice from my fellow modellers, including Chris who designed and supplied the makings, I feel I must accept. Mrs W has also added her vote for an unadorned hull. So, the hull will be left au naturel. Thanks again for helping me to resolve this issue, the decision to copper is a lot easier to make when the eye is less than satisfied with the planking. I still quite like the coppered look and there are good examples of 'Indy' builds using both tape and plate to inform any decision, but as has been said, a plain hull perhaps better suits a Navy Board style. As it happens the colour of the Pearwood is very close to that of a tarnished copper penny. I will invert the hull to apply a final coat of w-o-p, and then get on with it. Cheers, B.E.
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Post Sixty Dressing the Gun-deck The inner bulwark painting has been completed and the coamings re-coated to cover blemishes resulting during the planking process. The deck was then given a final scrape before varnished using Vallejo matt varnish. 1643 The bright red brick stove base as shown in the manual didn’t appeal to my eye, I used darker tones and weathering powders to create a more muted look. It was then onto a ladder fest, tricky little beggars to assemble and one of my least favourite tasks I always seem to be fingers and thumbs trying to keep them square. 1639 1641 These are quite flimsy to assemble as the scale dictates, ‘soft hands’ a definite requirement. 1651 1652 Finally, I added the shot garlands which I had previously removed from the coamings. 1646 1647 The crunch point has now arrived where I must decide whether to copper, as any further fittings will impede the inversion of the hull. I remain torn on the subject, so to maintain impetus I will clean up and paint the numerous deck fittings to defer the decision a while longer. B.E. 06/08/2023
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Post Fifty-nine Inner bulwarks Time to give these some attention. 1633 Firstly, the Proxxon Pen sander with angled arbors proved very useful to clean up around the inner gunports prior to painting. 1635 The Spirketting and upper ledges which border the gunports are fitted before painting. Don’t know how much will eventually show but Chris has taken the trouble to engrave the spirketting with a Hook and butt planking pattern, a nice touch. 1634 My final action is to fit the waterway representation using lengths of angled 2mm Pear strip. I settled on six scuppers along waterway, with a diameter of 1.5mm. 1636 1638 A first coat of diluted paint is applied using Vallejo Flat Red. I will be faffing around with this over the weekend to get a finish I am happy with. B.E. 04/08/2023
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Post Fifty-eight Ensure everything fits. A few hours spent fettlin’ the mortises. 1616 I used my deck template to ensure the locations particularly of the deck pillars. 1619 The Swann-Morton micro chisels proved very useful for clearing the pillar mortises on the modified head ledges. 1631 I’m thinking that the wooden pillars fore and aft of the Capstan step might be better represented by hinged iron stanchions. 1622 1623 1628 1626 The masts and Bowsprit are cut to full kit size and tested for fit. Fully rigged she is going to take up a lot of room, but will no doubt look magnificent. I hasten to add I will not be going down that road. B.E. 03/08/2023
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Each to their own I suppose Capt. but I find scraping gives me a better finish and more control. It is also easier to work between the centre line hatches etc; I also find it very satisfying, sort of like planning.☺️ B.E.
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Thankyou Glenn and Shipman. @ Glenn - Not even thought about gun fixing yet, but there are ways and means, other than deck slots. @ Shipman - It's the aesthetics that appeal to me but tricky to provide in a kit with laser parts, even for someone with such ingenuity as Mr Watton. Post Fifty-seven Completion of gundeck planking. Four more days and the last strakes are put into place. 1593 The final strakes meet the top & butt planking and require individual spiling for a good fit. 1602 The deck now requires scraping (not sanding) and my tool of choice is an old plane blade. It has the right weight and feel for drawing along the deck. 1610 1611 1613 Quite amazing the improvement a good scraping makes to a deck, and with 1mm depth of board there is little fear of over doing it. 1607 1606 1609 Not quite done yet, I now need to enlarge the mortises and trial fit the deck impediments before the deck is given a final scrape and a matt varnish finish. B.E. 02/08/2023
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