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Hi Peter, The Mizzen Royal and Top Gallant Braces reeve through a Double Block, (Port and Starboard), just below the Mainmast Cross Tree Spreader. The Royal Brace is on the inboard side of the Double Block and The Top Gallant Brace is on the Outboard side of the Double Block. They both drop down from here and Belay to the Aft Mainmast Fife Rail. (There may have been a Fair Lead involved rut I personally didn't find it.) There is no Pendant on the Mizzen Royal Yard but the Top Gallant has a Pendant for the Brace, the Standing part for this terminates on two Eye bolts in the center of the Mainmast Cross Tree Spreader. Well, that was the information that I gleaned from the Cutty Sark Society's Plans. With my build, I omitted Blocks that would have been used for Sails as mine does not have them and I believe that these Blocks were "UInshipped" when in port for any length of time. Braces/Pendants are a real "Cats Cradle" if you know wot I mean.... I guess you already know, Top down and Aft to Bow. Goes against the "Aft and Up" rule of thumb. More than happy to assist if I can, I've had a couple of sleeps since my Cutty build but something that's still very close to the Heart. :Looking good Chap!! Any help?- 92 replies
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Thanks Boyd, Early days.... I am thinking that I'll drill the ends/Butts of the planks and use my Hearth Brush Bristles to represent the Nails then sand the deck down. The alternative that I am "Toying" with is to prick the ends/Butts with a pair of dividers and use my Tech Drawing Pens, (Yup, these are old but good.), to place a dot of Black Ink into the depressions left by the dividers, then sand the Deck.... Thoughts? Anyway, while I'm thinking of my options, it gives me more time to research and study wot has been left out of the Kit, or, I should perhaps be more positive and say what I can add in terms of fittings, etc. Cheers....HOF.
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Oky Dokie, A little progress to date... There are some simply awesome examples of this subject on this site!! To Date, have sorted out the Deck Camber, Thanks Paul. Glued all Bulkheads in position using the False Deck to line them up, but of a mission, and have almost completed planking the Decks. AOTS shows a reasonably complex Deck with Scarf Joints, Etc. I guess I may have been more "Pragmatic" in my approach, 4 Butt Shift, no Scarf.... I also did the "Shift" on the Fore Deck, Oops, never mind, I'm not going to take the Planks off now!! (It is what it is.) Unsure if i'll give heaps of extra detail in the build, but, I think I may have started already. Anyway, some Pic's from today. Have an awesome weekend!!
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Hi Chap, Yup, Rig "Aft and Up!!" (Unsure where I got that quote from....) Inboard to Outboard worked for me also. I approached things a little differently, I placed the Main Masts in place first and approached the Top and Top Gallant Masts as separate assemblies complete with Yards and associated Rigging. (I adopted this approach as the height of the Model on my Work Bench meant that I was at the limit that my little arms could comfortably reach. ) Masts and Yards were not glued, everything is held together by Standing/Running Rigging. This made things a little more interesting as the Yards were "Live." The upside of this was that I could fiddle and get the Yards in more or less the correct positions for a "Harbour" Rig. Yours will be more interesting still with your Sails Bent to the Yards before your Yards are installed. By all means, PM me on the subject when you get closer or just use this Forum as others may have a different approach to me and I am certainly no expert.... BTW, Nice touch with your "Hermaphrodite" Masts/Spars on the Deck!! Cheers....HOF. (Harry)
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Hi Chap, Some very nice progress indeed!! Regarding your Deck Structures/Rigging, my experience here, get these attached first.... I would have had an awful time trying to mount/attach these after the fact. My experience, put your various Blocks/Eye bolts in place on the Deck/Pin Rails, Mount Deck fittings, then Rig. Dead Eyes "In Board" are a Bi--h!! But Lanyards are for these are relatively easy if you make a "Bodkin" with your rigging thread with a bit of CA and some tweezers to pull the thread through. (My Stern Bulwark Railings were also in place when I rigged mine, I sure wasn't going to remove them so had to Visualize the sequence/method.) Last stuff that I put on the Decks/Skids, Boats. (Post the majority of Standing/Running Rigging.) Don't rush!! Cheers....HOF.
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Thank Dave, Very much appreciated. Cheers....HOF.
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O.k. a problem, False Quarterdeck hangs over, (Proud), of all Quarterdeck Bulkheads by about 1.00 - 1.25 mm. Is this something that others have discovered? Everything is as straight and level as I can get it. All other Bulkheads, Fore and Poop stand proud of the Decks, a good thing. Also notice that the "Sheer" of the Pop Deck is much more pronounced than the others. Pack out the Quarterdeck Bulkheads? Cheers....HOF.
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Hi Bob, Your Gallery and its windows look awesome chap!! Very nicely executed detail. Cheers....HOF.
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Hi Marc, Those are just awesome!! Looking forward to see the results. Cheers....HOF.
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Thank you Sir. Much appreciated!! Cheers....HOF.
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Hi All, Thank you all so much with your guidance/advice thus far.... I have more questions, what length are the individual Deck Planks, (Not very clear from AOTS as the Drawings are quite smallish.... Supposedly 1/48 but thinking 1/100) If someone could advise what the "Real" Scale of AOTS Endeavor, in the publication, I would be most grateful. Any input appreciated. O.K. have started to cut some stuff, Mast Holes Drilled and a couple of Lower Decks planked. Hopefully tomorrow, I'll be attaching Decks to Bulkhesd, Etc. Cheers....HOF.
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For a "Scratch" Build, something that I would be very maybe afraid of, your work is awesome chap!!
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Thanks Steve, Much appreciated. Thanks for the advice on sourcing correct colours. Cheers....HOF. (Harry.)
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Thanks Chap. I'll have to find a match, hopeless in NZ,,,, Bugger!! all "Choice." (Pardon the French....) I'll concentrate on the initial build for the mo. See how the "Bendy" thing goes first...,. Much appreciated, thank you.... Cheers,,,, HOF.
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Nice one!! Thanks Chap. I guess once I have got the foundation, (False Keel, Bulkheads and Deck fitted, this weekend hopefully), I can really get stuck in. I have some spare Lime, so I intend to experiment a little with the Bending thing. Think I'm actually looking forward to it. Question for you, what colors have you used and what flavor? (Manufacturer) Any advice appreciated. Cheers....HOF.
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Hi Paul, I am going to give the Amati thingy a go.... Are you talking about the Aluminium "Bulb" at the business end of a Soldering Iron or the "Squeeze" thing with a blade in it's Jaws? I'll be trying the former of the above. Have had success with this before and does nice tight curves but have to soak first of course. Am also thinking that tapering the Planking Strakes at Bow and stern prior to the bend "Heat" treatment at Bow and Stern I'll do on the Stationary Disc Sander. If the Plank bender doesn't work well with the "Heat" treatment, I'll be making the Jig.... Anyway, just planning and visualizing my potential next few steps. I have a whole weekend coming up so looking forward to being "Constructive!!" Your example is looking rather good!! Cheers....HOF.
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Thanks Rowan, Not much happening last weekend, bit of a "Write Off" with Data Centre Maintenance to the fore, however, I did get the False Decks "Bisected" for locations of False Keel and Bulkheads ready for me to Drill and Nail. I get the feeling that it may be a lengthy build and it's my first "Bluff" bow that I will be attempting. Cheers and Regards....HOF. (Harry.)
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Unsure if the memories are fantastic.... Good to see something started that was so close to me for so long. I'll get you that E-Mail address when I get in the office tomorrow. No Worries Sir!! Cheers....HOF.
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Hi Mark, Brings back fond, (Or otherwise), memories. Things fit really well in this kit, yes? I am looking forward to your progress. BTW, I have an E-Mail address for a Chap at Mantua if you want the full PE Bulwarks, Etc. I think its probably still valid and I will send tomorrow if you wish. Did you get the Greenwich Society plans also? Cheers....HOF.
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Thanks Boyd. I'll have another think. :-)
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O.k so I'm being lazy, Can someone please let me know what the Anatomy Of The Ship Drawings are for the Endeavor in 1/60? (The AOTS drawings are 1/4" to the Foot, well the ones that I am interested in at this juncture.) Maybe point me in the direction of a Calculator? (Feel like a real dummy....) Cheers....HOF.
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One thing that I discovered is that the Deck Planking seems to be "In Scale." Counted the Planking Midships from Anatomy of the ship, Measured the kit deck in the same location and divided by 6mm (Supplied Deck Material) I'm pretty happy with this!! (Maybe I'm getting fussy....) Having a think still regarding the Keel.
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Thanks Chap, I already paid about NZD $30.00 A wonderful resource yes? Second Hand but all that's required!! Cheers and Regards....Harry.
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Thanks Boyd, (And everyone else.) I think that this will be "Interesting" to say the least. I am thinking that my Plank bender is going to get some Overtime!! (Very "Bluff" Bow and some otherwise compound curves....) Your going to have this challenge soon Boyd. :- (At least one half of your Bounty. :-)) Let me experiment for you.Chap :-) Mr Lester, I have had a damn good look at your stuff, really good am hoping that I can replicate something to the quality of what you have accomplished. I think that the Endeavor "Club" is in good health. The Ship is as just as important, (In historical terms for you in the "West" Island :-) of New Zealand, as it is to me. Sorry, a bit of "Swish." I am looking forward to this, something totally different in terms of years, (Century), and the build itself. I am looking also forward to maybe "Picking your Brains." A question that I am trying to get some closure on, How about affixing the Keel proper to the False Keel, Cutting a Bearding Line before 1st layer of planking? Wot is your estimation? The choice was difficult, Mamoli Flying Cloud or something totally different. (Maybe a prep for the Victory?) I guess I chose different. :-) Cheers....HOF.
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Thank you. Much appreciated, I hope it helps those contemplating or building. Thanks all for the wonderful and constructive comments/likes. I'll add to this as more comes to mind as I have really just "Skimmed" the build. As previously alluded to, happy for people to "Pick my brains" as I have had a couple of sleeps between September 2014 and now. I should also add a disclaimer that my methods worked for me through trial and error, they will not suit everyone as we all approach things in different ways. Cheers and Regards, Harry.
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