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Louie da fly reacted to Gbmodeler in Barco Catalan by Gbmodeler - FINISHED - 1:48 Scale - Mediterranean Fishing Boat
Set the mast today. Had to use wedges...😄. The rusty metal band on the bench is heavy construction paper with copper wire "rivets."
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Louie da fly reacted to Gbmodeler in Barco Catalan by Gbmodeler - FINISHED - 1:48 Scale - Mediterranean Fishing Boat
Rails and trim painted!
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Louie da fly reacted to PhilB in Nef by PhilB - scale c. 1:50 - Early Medieval Ship
I should hasten to add that the forestay picture is not mine, I grabbed it off google to illustrate the idea of replacing the "butterfly cleats" with heart blocks. I hope that mine looks almost as good when it's done.
Edit: on a related note, should I add some shoulder pieces near the top of the mast where the stays are attached? It's the forestay attachment on the borrowed heart block picture that made me think of it.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Larry Cowden in Medieval longship by bolin - FINISHED - 1:30 - based on reconstruction Helga Holm
It certainly looks like one. If so, it's the earliest representation I know of. The oldest I've previously come across were early 15th century.
This is a really interesting build, of a unique vessel. Keep up the good work.
By the way, I think you're right in using the reconstruction as a guide but making your own judgments about the original form of the ship for your model.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Cathead in Nef by PhilB - scale c. 1:50 - Early Medieval Ship
"Butterfly cleat" sounds good. But they've only been found on Viking ships and yours is several hundred years later. I'd be going with hearts myself, as attested by this one from about 1390-1400.
According to the report "A number of loose rigging items were found, including six complete or partial blocks and two possible deadeye fragments . . .The largest block has seven holes but the others have only one or two" It appears the report doesn't distinguish between hearts and conventional blocks with sheaves, but the one below at least is definitely a heart, and possibly the others are too. Looks like one end has been cut off?
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Louie da fly got a reaction from druxey in Athenian triere by luponero - c. 5th century BC
That's very interesting. I hadn't known about the "light" trieres at Salamis. I'm enjoying following your historical research.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Cathead in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Nice idea, Pat. But I don't want to go all "19th century sophisticated" on this - I'd like to keep everything as simple as possible, as it was before 700 years of extra evolution. I'll just cat and fish the anchors, lead the cables under the forecastle and leave it at that.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
I thought of that, Phil. Unfortunately there's nowhere to put one without it getting in the way.
Druxey, that was terrible (but in a good way) . Yes, whatever else, if I install a windlass in a future build I'll have a better idea of how it all works in relation to everything else. I have to say I'm learning a lot. They reckon that the best way to avoid Oldtimer's disease is to create lots of new neural pathways by doing and learning new things. At this rate, I'll never get it.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in Gokstad c. 900 AD by bigpetr - 1:48 - CARD - viking ship
I'm enjoying following this one - if only to see the physical results of all that theoretical preparation you did.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in Yenikapi12 by woodrat - FINISHED - 1/16 scale - a small Byzantine merchant vessel of the 9th century
It seems a bit of a shame to do all that work for something so beautiful, that won't be seen when you're finished. The sigmoid scarphs (wonderful term) are very attractive, both on the "gunwale" (guns haven't been invented yet) and the planking.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from druxey in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from EJ_L in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Keith Black in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from BANYAN in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Boxbuilds in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Nice idea, Pat. But I don't want to go all "19th century sophisticated" on this - I'd like to keep everything as simple as possible, as it was before 700 years of extra evolution. I'll just cat and fish the anchors, lead the cables under the forecastle and leave it at that.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from J11 in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
What's wrong with these photos?
For those who answered "the anchor cable is at the wrong angle to the windlass" go to the top of the class. And there's no way I can move the windlass to change the angle - there's no room. Looks like I won't be using the windlass for the anchors after all (sigh). Oh, well -the crew will just have to rely on brute force to raise the anchors.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
I've been looking at what happens to the free end of the ropes for the blocks etc I've been working on so far. Normally there'd be a coil to take up the surplus rope at the end. I've tried making a coil copying a technique used by others on MSW but it's pretty difficult if I'm making it out of the surplus rope at the free end. I think it's probably better to just make separate coils and attach them to make it look like they're part of the main rope.
Wrapping the free end around the end of a pen and gluing the coils together (later I had to remove the grey hair that had somehow got itself mixed up with the coil).
Then I added an extra bit of cord to simulate the bit that winds around the coil to keep it in shape. And a clothes-peg to hold it all together till the glue dried.
And the coil in place next to the oarsman in green. Note also the free end of the vang being held by the standing crewman. My understanding is that it would just lie there on the deck until the operation was over, then be coiled up properly.
And another bit of housework - the free ends of the robands and gaskets were sticking out at all angles - a combination of the springiness of the cotton thread and the presence of random dabs of the glue I used to hold them to the yard. They should be hanging down under gravity. So I've started glueing them in a "natural" position. The left-hand photo is "before", the right-hand isn't so much "after" as "during". The 5th and 7th ties from the end of the yard show the difference. A lot to do here - it'll take a while.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from mtaylor in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from usedtosail in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly reacted to Mike_H in New member: an Aussie in Yorkshire
Hello! Or G'day, or perhaps ey up! Probably not ahoy! Anyway, my lifelong interest in 18th and 19th C. naval history means my lovely daughters have been dragged through endless museums and across endless ships - the Victory three times, I think. So perhaps a birthday present of an Artesania Latina kit should not have been a surprise - but it certainly was a delight. A few months later and I am completely hooked - in fact it's finished, as I will explain, and I have dreadful withdrawal symptoms waiting for its successor to be delivered.
The AL kit in question was for Endeavour's Longboat, but I started it before I found this forum so didn't create a build log - I'll do something like that retrospectively, to point our how much I got wrong, how much I learned, and how delighted I am. I'll do that in the build logs section for ease of finding. I've just read a post in the New member Introductions saying essentially don't run before you can crawl. And in that respect the Longboat is a great starting project. It remains to be seen if crawling through that was enough to prepare me for jogging through Caldercraft's HMS Snake. Time will tell - but you will see it on this forum.
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Louie da fly got a reaction from Jeff T in 10th-11th century Byzantine dromon by Louie da fly - FINISHED - 1:50
Thanks, Wolf. That's very flattering (blush)
Okay, I bit the bullet and installed the anchors and cables without involving the windlass - they're catted and fished, and the cables vanish under the forecastle as though they're coiled there.
I'm not sure if I should cut the free end of the anchor cable a little shorter. It looks like it might be a little long.
And I did something I've been wanting to do for a long time, and which I wasn't willing to do until I was near the end in case I broke it while working on other things - I've finally added the chain that supports the ramming spur at the bow.
I attached the chain to one of the eyebolts I'd prepared earlier.
Then made an "iron" (actually thin aluminium from a catfood container) strap to go around the spur. And drilled a hole in the front face of the forecastle, inserted the eyebolt and added a dab of CA glue to keep it in place.
I cut the chain to length and added another ringbolt on the other end. Then put the strap on the spur and glued it on with CA, and drilled a hole in the top for the second ringbolt.
And inserted the ringbolt and glued it in place.
VOILA!
And I've started making the tillers, using the "poor man's lathe"
That's all till next time.
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Louie da fly reacted to MESSIS in Odysseus homeric ship (penteconter) by MESSIS - FINISHED - kit-bashed from Dusek bireme
I am sailing.... almost.