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  1. Hi Jd

    I had the same problem.

    In the first link it will show how I make coils. The way I make them does help them to lay right.

    https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13186-making-rope-coils-with-help-from-many/&tab=comments#comment-402670

    The next link will show how I hold coil in place while the glue dries

    Before I place the coil on the pin and pin rail I will put some water down glue on the rope that bends around the pin. If need be I will also put some on the coil. This will soften the rope and make it so it will flex easier. Then I use the next link

    https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/12313-just-the-right-amount-of-holding-force/&tab=comments#comment-372390

    Hope this helps

    Joe

  2. John

    You are not alone. I have the same thinking as you. 

    When things don't work out I keep thinking it me, and I must be doing something wrong. Like not enough heat, to much heat, didn't let it soak long enough, etc, etc.

    I like you have come to the point that it must be the wood, and different wood acts different.

    What you have come up with is not only out of the box, but very smart. I would have never thought of using tile to help with the bending.

    My hat is off to you for keeping with it, and doing what you have done.

    Joe

  3. John

    I have been there done that. I have spent weeks trying this, doing that. Then my admiral will say I don't knnow why you build those things.

    Any other time she is very helpful.

    For a long time I thought is was just me that had the results that you have gone through. I thought I was doing something wrong.

    Thanks for posting, and all the info

    Joe

  4. John

    First let me say thanks for taking the time to make such a detailed post, the wording and the pics are spot on.

    I can see just what you are talking about, and you have made it so clear of how the 2 options are going to lay.

    I am not a expert in planking different types of hauls, with that said I would have to go with Mark.

    The second option does look like it will work out better.

    The first looks like it is almost bent the wrong way.

    The only other thing I can think of why it may be going in that direction is it looks like you didn't put in of take account for the garboard strake.

    I am not even sure if your haul should have one.

    Maybe Mark can shed some light on this, and how that would effect to laying out of the planks.

    All I can say is I know I have not done it right, and to do it right takes a lot of planning. Once to do it right, I think it will be a breeze after that.

    Like Chuck said you should have it all marked out so you can see it even before you cut the first piece of wood.

    The next time I do a haul like you have I think I will either mark it all out and then maybe even use card stock for test planks.

    Joe

  5. Well Sun

    I see the windmills of your mind are turning, as I guess like mine and others have. I know for me I start reading, and thinking, and pondering, and the next thing I know I come to the conclusion that we can only make things just only so real.

    It's all a matter of scale, if you are building 1:24 or bigger then you can be very real, crank up those windmills.

    Things become complex when you are building in 1:80 or smaller. Then the other thing is, like others have said, is money.

    I am working on the Robert E Lee in 1:150 scale. On one hand something like build scale stairs is almost impossible, on the other hand, painting this model with those little bottles of paint would cost about $85.00.

    This is a great hobby, you will learn a lot, may even go broke, and never be the same agian. Now that can be a good thing, or a bad thing.

    But the time will come when you start wondering about yourself.

    When you get to this point you have reached the pucker factor. This is the point of no return

    Let me know when you are there, because here I am.

    Joe

  6. Hi John

    My first planking on the type of bow you have, came out just like what you did. I didn't have any wide planking to spile, and didn't know about edge bending. I didn't bother lining off the haul or do any tapering for the reason I just said, so mine came out like yours.

    When I have done other types of hauls I have lined them off and taper the planks, so I did know the process, just didn't know about edge bending.

    I have done your jig method, which I find helps keep the wood from splitting.

    I am trying Chuck's method, I have had some wood that bends fine, and other that just splits.

    Not sure if it's me, the wood, or what.

    Looks like you are doing well at this stage. If you have any other info about planking please post.

    Info about planking is like money, you can never have too much.

    Joe

  7. Hi Steve

    Welcome to MSW

    I just finished my first ship with sails.

    You can look in my albums if you like.

    This is the place to be if you need info.

    Looking forward to your pics, I am following this thread.

    If you see something you like, or want to know how someone did something, you can always send a PM to that person.

    I think all of us here like to tell of our how to this or that.

    Joe

  8. Hi Bruce

    I know what you are talking about, I had the same trouble with rigging lines

    I don't know what they are called, I found them at either Joann Fabrics of a craft store that I shop at.

    They are tiny springs with two plastic ends, you close the ends and it makes the spring form a "u" shape. The curve top part of the spring opens and you slip the lines in the open spring, then let go and the spring goes back to being straight, holding the lines.

    I would think that you could just use springs with out the plastic, you  just need to make the coils of the spring open on one side. Also the spring has to be coiled tight.

    If you need me to take a pic let me know.

    Joe

  9. maturin52 is right 

    the planking needed to be open in the front so the piece in the pic could slide between the 2 sides of the planking

    you might be able to sand the point of the bow flat and might have to cut a new piece to fit the contor of the bow

    or replank

    this is one of those OH NO moments

    can't wait to see what you come up with, wish I could be of more help

    Joe

  10. Hi Tarmes

    I have done the kit you are talking about. This type of hull will not need to be spil. 

    The planks will lay very nice.

    Not sure what this type of bow is called.

    I know the buff bow ( I think that's what it is called ) needs to be spiled, or you end up planks that don't run all the way to the bow. This is how one of  my ships came out. Only because I didn't order wider planks. One of these days I will try to spil.

    I have spent days reading how to.

    This is place to find what you need to know.

    Happy Building

    Joe

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