CharlieZardoz

Aha! Yes some of these are just what I'm looking for and there are a lot of options I can also modify if need be yay!

Greetings all! I just picked up a rather nice LED lighting set via Evan Designs and was wondering if there are any little lanterns or lamps on the market (between 4-8 mm) that could be used for a ship models interior lighting. I've checked ages of sale and also the Syren company has that nice rear lantern though what I'm looking for is more like the interior lamps like these in HMS Victory below. I'd consider doing them scratch but would prefer to at least find some photo etched brass parts or somesuch as I will happily utilize what's out there in the market. Charlie

Oh wow! All the websites list the Corel's Ranger as 1:50 scale and I see on your plans plain as day they are 1:64. Makes me wonder if the Mamoli Alert is also 1:64 as it's even smaller at 428mm and it seems many of the European kit scales are lies lies lies. This is great I wanted a revenue cutter at this scale, Yay!

I'll keep that in mind the dremel rotary and chisel will likely be all that I need since the hull itself is relatively small. Also looking at the pics I'm realizing that the left and right area's have sleeping bunks which don't extend to the area I intend to hollow out. So looking at the vertical pic below I'd only really need to chisel out a small space by the ladder area then plank the sides with vertical strips painted white up to the point where the quarter badge doors are. I can see it in my mind perfectly. I am wondering if anyone sells little lamps that would be similar to the ones in the replica or if Ill need to scratch build those. Also I'm still curious what's in those quarterbadge rooms

Model expo is currently having a sale on clamps. I just restocked

Oh yes thank you! It's quite a cozy interior I know I will definitely have to visit myself in the near future. The pics definitely have me thinking I'm wondering where the quartbadges are, I hoping it's not the loo! lol

BTW I do still have the drill press which I figure if I use a cross-slide vise it may work as a millmachine.

I have a feeling that what I'm going to wind up doing is a composite of these approaches. Mainly slice into the back of the hull up to the lower deck line but leave three bulwark type areas that I will then hollow out the insides with a rotary tool effective giving the aft section bulwark "teeth" with which to plank over. It'll also maintain the shape of the hull I'm only hoping the solid hull wood isn't too fragile. I may still change my mind though the model is backordered so when I get it and shape it when it's actually in mind hands I know more. I am curious what is a good recommendation dremel to get something small enough to do detail work but still powerful enough to get the job done? Maybe a series 200? Also curious if anyone has any other pictures of the Sultana replica's interior. It may save me a trip to Baltimore

The kit it probably even older than that. Constructo's Enterprise was designed somewhere in the 40-50's. A lot of these old kit's have been around forever

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris-Taney-class cutter Well to my knowledge the actual "baltimore clipper" as being ships built of the line and style were commonly built in Baltimore around the time of the war of 1812 for coastal defense. After the war ended the ships ceased to be built as far as Baltimore is concerned however the revenue cutters which were built in New York also for coastal defense took their lines from the baltimore clippers making sort of the progeny of the type. A lot of other designs of later ships took influence from the baltimore clippers as well. While I'm not fully versed on the history my guess is that up until the war of 1812 many American ships were built by local sources rather than federal. For example the Constitution/Constellation class frigates were a design ordered by the federal government however smaller frigates like New York, Essex and General Greene were order by the states and cities by local contractors. After the war of 1812 the US navy became strong enough that such efforts at the local level were no longer needed and inventory became regulated. Again I could be wrong about this but I would suggest you read Howard Chapelle's The Baltimore Clipper and The American Sailing Navy which goes into all of this in much detail. And yes looks like a nice model kit when I get the skillset required I will definitely built her or possibly kitbash using plans to a 1/64ish scale. God I miss those old Model expo catalogues from 1984-1986. I saw them on ebay in September and missed a chance at buying them grrrr! They were full of many errors too especially with kit scaling lol.

That's just great! I love it!

Interesting, looks a bit like what the Harvey was based on (I say that because of the outhouse looking things in the front). Proper POF is something I'm not quite ready for yet however something I may get to when I feel I'm ready for it. Beautiful model! So what you are saying is that the model is wider than it should be? And the aft is the wrong shape. I suppose when the time comes I'll have to kitbash a bit something I imagine ill be doing quite a bit down the line as some of the kits out there seem more "suggestive" of the real thing lol. Model Shipways makes great kits I also like those jotika kits. It's also a matter of the model maker guys like Chris Watton who look like they do their homework

I have to check and see if my grandfather still has one (milling machine). To say I don't have tools is a somewhat inaccurate statement my grandfather was a tool and die worker and still has a few large machines which is how he did his scratch Santa Maria when I was a kid however I haven't taken inventory on what he has left since they've been in a nice dry shed for the last 15 years and sadly quite a few were stolen a few years back. I'm going to drive over tomorrow and do some investigating and say hi to the fam in the process The rotary tool is a definite must I plan on investing in a good one, all these are excellent suggestions and I really appreciate the insight.

Well since I'm still relatively new at this I thought I could do it half POF or more aptly the area I have outlined utilizing the kit but adding my own twist to it. The interior of the Sultana didn't strike me as being particularly complex to build as the picture shows but for the moment I have no tools so I'm trying to figure out what I need to buy to do that kind of work without damaging the kit or making a mess. I'm a firm believer that anything is easy with the right tool I'm also thinking of lighting but that's another post

I'm curious what the overall length of the model is w masts/without. Beautiful work indeed! Charlie

Amati also has Roger Taney in 1/60 though I think that's a resin kit closer to the scale I like and not sure if that is a Clipper or Cutter? Will probably give it a go at one point but I didn't know about that Dikar kit so thanks for the info! I do wonder what lovely kits are out there from defunct companies that have been buried and forgotten

The Dapper Tom was a great MS kit as well, would be nice if they brought it back, maybe in a larger 1/64 scale. Yeah both Albatros and Harvey seem ficticious even more so by their insistence that the kit represents clippers from the 1830-40's?? Plus the scale of the Albatros makes no sense 1/40 at 27" total? Of all of them Lynx seems the closest to the Mosquidobit plans though the kit would need some modification for sure. It seems that the older kit companies from the days of yore were less concerned about accuracy and more about giving someone a nice shelf piece, though tbf look how the internet has made researching so much more efficient. Also what do you mean by length/beam ratio?

I agree about doing al the shaping first and the depth gauge looks like it would be very helpful regardless. Would you suggest a rotary tool or basic chisel for carving? Good idea about the shelf I'm going to look into more resources about ship insides and I plan on visiting the ship in the near future to see what the inside looks like and take tons of pics/measurements.

Hi everyone! Sorry for all the questions lately I'm just trying to plan everything I need for my impending build. I'm interested in possibly adding a cabin space to the Sultana for a little extra challenge/fun (add some lights furniture etc.) and I figure the replica in Baltimore gives me a lot of reference to work with. My initial thought would be to use a band saw and cut horizontal which means I would have to rebuild the side bulwarks in the process but it would give me an even measurement to work on the lower deck. The other alternative might be to burrow into the hull though I worry about the inner deck winding up uneven. To anyone who as attempted or contemplated doing something similar on a solid model hull I would greatly appreciate some opinions/advice on tools, methods and resources so I can start planning what to read/buy. I put pictures below to show exactly where I plan to cut, forward of the ladder but still leaving part of the poop deck in order to give the deck support. Charlie

Back in the day I used Tamiya with thinners since it would leave very little streaking (flatten out as it dried). I'm curious when I start working on Sultana how the model expo paints work, also plan on doing a few Trumpeter kits so I think I'm going to start asking around to see what the masters use. Regarding airpbrushes I just spent the last 6 hours sucking down resources and my airbrush of choice is the Iwata Eclipse HP-SBS with a 1/2 oz cup and .5 mm conversion....

Indeed I know a few oldtimers in local model shops who swear by the single. Also my first airbrush was a Badger 200 used it for everything back as a kid and while I may also invest in a new badger for the same purpose I wanted to look into a really neat one for super fine detailing so I can paint models as well as canvas paintings. The Iwata is a definite probability thanks! But what's with all these sub genres, "Revolution" "Eclipse" High Performance Hi-Line Kustom, it's madness lol!

Hey guys! So if money is no object, what are some of the best and most versatile airbrush(s)/trusted brands you can find on the market? The list of choices seems endless nowadays. Also what are some of your preferences regarding where the paint is stored (poured from the top or in the glass jar below)?

Interesting and very true! If you post your work on this site I'll be very interested to see your progress as I've been thinking about building the Lynx myself at one point. It seems to be (other than the Pride of Baltimore II) the only Baltimore Clipper style kit that's close to the 1/64 scale which is my scale preference for smaller ships. Charlie

You mean you don't trust Mr Chapelle's estimate?? yes I've seen the admiralty plan so I know what you mean. Regarding the hull size the Rattlesnake hull is supposed to be 89' historical length and the model is 18-19.5" depending on if you count the front piece. The Syren at 94' is about 19.5-21" est. so assuming the Lynx model is true to the 95' historical length 50cm or 19.5" falls in around what it should be at 1:62-1:64 scale.

I'd be open to building her but would consider changing the name, hence why I'm curious what plan was used to design the kit.