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Awesome job making those notches on the deck beams, this whole thing is turning out terrific!! I am gong to have to copy your process when I get to that step of making notches. Brian
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That book (assuming does get written), combined with the book by Bernard Froliche would be the ultimate guiding sources bundle for all model ship building especially prior to the 1830s when more metal became increasingly in use.
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The 3/32 inch scale model of Speedwell could be very tempting, I also have a possible eye on the 1/48 scale model as already provided plans for in the books of the ship.
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Another update. Even though I have yet to remake the keel as don't have money right now to buy more wood plus still needing to fix my saw, I have began the shaping of the hawse timbers for my model of Eagle. This will be a long process in making and shaping these pieces more, especially on the insides. I am planning to be installing 1/32 inch spacers between the frames of the hawse timbers that have yet to be ordered. But this is where I am as another snow day in Denver.
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Alrighty, friends! Needing a break from all the political hubbub and thankfully I have been finding answers. With enormous thanks to Mr. Passaro as well as Greg, I have been doing research involving the cant frames and hawse timbers. Plans of the Eagle originally done by A&M University when Dr. Crisman found the wreck off Lake Champlain clearly show two cant frames (the area circled in red in picture 1, Frames Q and R using the plans from Bill Edgin. And there is spacing where Frame S should be that perfectly makes the third cant frame). I have decided to copy the idea by Mr. Passaro used on his Speedwell blog for the cant frame areas. Then, using a compass, I was able to get the angle of the frames off the keel (the angled lines done in cyan). Then the dark blue box shapes in picture 3 will be the hawse timbers but will need to redo this incorporating the spacer pieces where the anchor cable openings will be. And for those of you wondering, the green boxes are following the construction Mr. Passaro used in the Winnie project strengthening the cathead pieces with the forward mast bitt frames. Hopefully very soon will be making sawdust again! Peace ✌️
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Hello friends. I'm sorry that I haven't posted in a very long time any progress on the ship. To give an update, I have decided to totally remake the keel of this ship as I have broken it a few times unfortunately and am wanting to mimic some of the construction styles that Mr. Passaro is using on his model of Speedwell. Also I did not plan well for doing the groves in the deadwood as my plans show and I have some new thoughts on how to do these. But all is not completely at a standstill for me with my Brig Eagle. Been doing lots of research and figuring out future steps as best as able. For example I was recently able to finally get useful information about interior of Niagara and it appears very similar to what Bill Edgin drew up with a few modifications and I of course want to make a few more. A friend of mine tried helping me fix my bandsaw last fall and I was trying the saw again only to immediately see the blade fall off again after turning on the saw. 🤬🤬🤬So until I can get the saw fixed again it's going to be difficult for me to make any new progress. Once I get more money coming my way again I want to see about getting a Byrnes tablesaw as many of you keep raving about it in blogs.
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First time I have seen this idea for the model display base but I like it and your hatches came out great!
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Great progress, Mr. Passaro. Your model of the Speedwell looks amazing thus far, and I am looking forward to seeing much more happening with her. Brian D
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Good luck to you with this new project, Mike! I am sure that you will make a great model of the Speedwell like you did with the Winnie. I will be following you with this project.
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Job well done on this construction of Winnie! Your build was a lot of fun to follow and thank you for all of your great explanations and tips.
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I am very much looking forward to how you make and grove those hawse timbers. Speedwell has been a pleasure to follow as was Winnie.
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I have noticed that myself and have wondered about this. Not sure more if a more modern model builder "cut some corners" by not doing the hawse timbers in the bow or if the scale admiralty models of that time period didn't have the hawse timbers but the real ship would have. Or a third option could be that smaller ship models like that Dutch Statenjacht/Stuwart ship models wouldn't have had the hawse timbers unlike large ship-of-the-line models. Nevertheless, I am enjoying learning the more accurate construction from Mr. Passaro and other skilled modelers on this site.
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Hey Jorge, long time no see nor hear. I hope that progress has continued on this beautiful model as I have enjoyed following your construction. Health and prosperity to you and family (and the kitties)
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EURYALUS 1803 by Peter6172 - 1:48
bdgiantman2 replied to Peter6172's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
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Interesting project. Will you be making her a Brig or a Schooner?
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Speedy healing to you, Brian. Hear those braces are no fun to wear. I see a number of people come through wearing these during ski season at the airport I work at, but those are usually on legs and not arms. We will all practice our patience with you while you mend up which is more important no matter how much wanting to make new saw dust. Being healthy and whole is very important.
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It almost seems to me to some kind of small external gear to the compass box. Was going to guess a part of the tiller operation but then I realized that La Creole would have still have rope tiller around the wheel and into the hull. But as the picture of the contemporary model shows, maybe it is a broken off arm for like the ship's bell.
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My thought is that even though this model of the Speedwell is being built at a larger scale than Winnie, because the Winnie was nearly twice the size of Speedwell in real life (as well as quarter scale if the two models were to be side by side), I could understand Winnie's figurehead being bigger anyways. Bigger ship will have a bigger figurehead. Those pieces you have made look spectacular just to let you know.
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Speedwell is coming along beautifully. Great job on the construction process, Mr. Passaro, I am looking forward to learning lots from you with this build.
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Hey Rusty, want to join me in building a model of the Brig Eagle from 1814? I can e-mail you some designs that were sent to me although I have made some modifications after doing my own research about her.
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Congrats on finishing this beautiful model, first-rate all around in construction and meticulous research. Happy holidays to you and your family. This blog was a lot of fun to follow.
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Great looking first few ribs, Mr. Passaro, and thank you so much for the well explained instructions thus far. I am guessing that those grooves you have made in the taller ribs double up not only as the markers for the railings but also be the marker guides for the shorter ribs and using the same puzzle construction for them? I will look forward to much more on this project. Brian D
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If good at using a scroll saw it could be done, but most likely wouldn't have as pretty an outcome as this laser product and a time-consuming attempt. Having wood files and proper sanding blocks are a big help either way. I personally have never used chisels building a model ship and honestly hesitant to try.
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McDonald's was the first job I had, and I do remember the hysteria of some customers over that sandwich. I agree it was overrated for what you got.
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