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Laying out plans in a smaller workshop
amateur replied to alde's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
What are you building: scratch, or kit? In a kit, most parts are on the general plan, but also in much more detail in de separate plan. The need to have your drawings full size against the wall is less urgent in that case. In answer: I did my Prins Willem mostly on partly folded drawings. Only when I really needed the full scale general view drawings, I laid them out on the floor, did my measurements, and folded them again. (and yes, after ten years of folding and unfolding, the drawing has become a bit shabby) Jan -
Wow, that looks wonderfull. Dont iverdo the waves and details, it is wuite atunning how irr is. did you already try a pic at a low cameraposition? jan
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yeah, not showing pictures is a bit of a no-go strategy. Actually, it is a near-criminal act Hope the surgery solves the eye-problems. Not being able to see well is a bit of a handicap when you do small-scale work. Actually, it is a bit of a handicap in all your doings.... Jan
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This is a dry, newly thatched mill: sharplines, one colour. Old (notice the moss), and less sharp corners in the thatch, but very dry (because, greyish colour) Thatching is expensive, so not uncommon: pnly replace the leaking side... head forsomething that is between these colours, and you willbe OK. (and: dont tey to google for a wet mill, tourists apparently never take pics in the rain :)) And when you want to get an impressionof changing colours over time, and over the day, google 'kinderdijk molen' those are the most famous eightsided mill inthe Netherlands, and therefore the most fotographed.. 8 mills, never the same colour. Jan
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The colour also depends on the temperature/amount of sun over the last twoweeks. water makes the thatch more dark brwon, and it makes the moss grow, so there will also be a greenish colour. Sunn and warmth will result in the moss drying (and falling off), the moisture disappear, so the whole thing becomes more greyish. On my way to work I come by a couple of these mills every day: theircolour is letterallynever the same. google for molen rietgedekt, and you will get the full range of colours. Pick some 'inthe middle' greyish brown' and that will do. Very dark and starkyellowish do exist inreallife, but will generallynot do to depect a mill. Jan
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Gelderland and the States are (at least, so I have been told) in different time zones. Guess he just started his beautysleep. So, we can go to work, and still be home in time to see him waking up Jan
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Hope you slept well. Weall anxiously wait for the outcome
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I know, but the risk is smaller, and I don't like risks. Second: I prefer low tech over high-tech. That's why polymers wouldn't be my first choice. I have seen very nice seas composed from toilet-paper, water diluted glue, acrylic paint and high-gloss lacquer. Jan
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Piet, Sounds lile a sensible strategy. One thought however, won’t the screws and axes not prohibit takimg her out again, and will these small arts be as heatresistant as the hull itself? In your case my first thought would have been plaster of paris Jan
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Hi Piet, I think Carl means the edges of the groove Java is sitting in, not the diagonal position of the groove itself. if your see is transparant, you will keep seeing these rather hard angles. I would consider not showing actual gunfiring. Most dio's use kind of fluffy material to suggest smoke, but in the instances I habe seen, it was just that: fluffy material attached to a gun.... perhaps less is more in this case. Jan
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Hi Doris, That was very a good change you made! The new windows do look far better than the old ones. Jan
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As Carl pointa out: not all mills used the old fashioned slats for the sails. especially just before the second world war, when electic and diesel engines became more affordable, quite a lot of experimenting took place to invrease the efficiency of the existing mills. So, a number of types were made, all trying to have higher efficiency, and easier handlijg : rigging a vain with cloth takes quite some time in an old fashioned setup, the one shown by Carl, it takes around 10 minutes. (And there is no need dor the miller to climb all the vanes one by one. however, new technology was expensive, so quite a lot of mills did not make the transition, or only partially. more common was to remove the vanes, remove the movable roof, and replace it by a diesel engine in the shed. Quite a lot of mills were demolished, or lead their life as an amputated vane-less brick stump, quite often as part of a larger production facility. As an example: twice the same mill, in the fifties, and now: Jan
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We asked Ab in an other forum. He didn't had any intention to publish this book. It was done on request of seawarch, who specializes in interesting books with drawing for modellers. No market for that over here. Unfortunatedly, impoting books from the other side is a bit expensive. with respect to all of these ships: there are almost no written sources, so these drawings are kind of reconstructions, starting from the few written sources there are (like builders ontracts), and art- drawings and paintings. That is also the reason that these drawings are more schematic than those of the statenjacht (and some earlier drawings of Emke). They are not intended as fully detailed drawings, but as a reaonably good starting point to build these ships: it is a drawing of a ship-type, not of a specific vessel. That said: ask all your questions, we might have an anser for that. The aft mast for instance, was in many case only rigged at low wind, to hold course, or even (especially fishing ships), to keep position when the main mast was lowered. So, at a fair wind, it was either not rigged, or had small sailsl. You can see that in many paintings of a related shiptype: the hoeker. a famous drawing of the ship is this one by Reinier Nooms https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/collectie/RP-P-OB-20.523 Jan
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It was not until your video that I realized the size of the model. It is far larger than I imagined. (and like all the others: I am still amazed by what you can make out of sculpting material. my own ability in that field ends with marble sized, almost round balls ) Jan
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Hi PIet, She is looking great. I like these pre-WWII cruisers very much. I checked the original drawings fro that small house. The funny thing is: that little house is not on the original drawings but.... it was there for sure: It looks more of a wind-shield to me on this picture, and not a closed structure (you can see light through the porthole that is in it). So it has to be a 1934-refit change. During that refit, the masts were changed (shortened, and repositioned). At the same time the anti-aircraft guns were modernized, and a couple of sheltered fire-control positions were created (using steel screens). I guess this is one of those positions. Jan
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Thatch needs some care: it is a natural product, so it dereriorates over time, especially when wet. So from time to time the thatcher comes by and gives the roof a close shave (literally) to remove moss, dirt and rotting parts, them he fills thin parts with new thtch. So that is why you not often see moss on mills. You see it on the north side of thatched roofs. After a numbe of years, repair isnr enough, and the whole roof has to be replaced. by tge way, there is no roof under the thatch, the thatch is the roof. in housinghowever, modern safety regulations ask for an fireproof later betwwen beams and thatch. Some pics, other type of mill, but the process is the same. http://www.rietdekkerstraver.nl/projecten/vervanging-rieten-kap-cabauwse-molen/ Jan
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Nope, they don't need the sail to run. The sails are only needed in case of low wind speed. @ Marcus: are you going to build an interior, or will this be an "outside only" ? Can you tell us what the mechanics of the mill are? Is it working using a 'water-screw' or a 'wheel' ? @Piet: do you mean this one in Ter Haar? I like Dutch windmills. Quite a lot of differences between them, depending on region, function, and age. I also like these few rather sturdy ones (this one is Zeddam, in the eastern part of the country) Jan
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