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That X-acto knife is getting bigger and bigger Your pipes look good, as does the camo-paintwork. Jan
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Did a quick search in google books there are texts sround 1650 writimg provintien, provinsien and provincien. Can’t find any other ways of writimg the name Jan
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Hi Backer, Ik know, but still., it is not a spelling you come across often (also not in compsrable words) especially while provincie en vanantie do have their t and s sound imterchanged, y was used as alternarive for j, so I do undrstand provinciyen (again not common) but a c followed by t and y I never saw elsewhrer jan
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Given the paintings (and the large grisaille of the four-day battle) I would go for the 3D-version. What I am not sure about is the lettering on the banderole. Dik reads: De 7 Provincien the Batavia-model reads - as the Tomesen-model : De 7 Provinctye (or Provinctie, I am not sure). Depends on your interpretation, but the Tomesen-version does look a bit weird to me (never saw this way of writing the Dutch word "province" before) Jan
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Why is there an axe in all your pics It looks great. I thought 1:250 is small, but these parts are seriously tiny....Nice fix on the light. And I expect that you’ll find the missing one in a safe place where uou pit it, to make sure that uou won’t loose it Jan
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Simple Framing Question
amateur replied to t5956ws's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Is this monograph containing what you need? https://www.thenrg.org/the-galley-washington.php Jan -
Request to admin: perhaps split this one (and the preceding ones) to a separate thread, as it is completely off topic in this thread..... I promisd to put some pics of the Versteeg booklet. Here they are, without further comments. For the smaller ships, these are more or less representative: one ship per page, some with, some without rigging plan (most of them with, but basic). The larger ships have 'chapman-like' drawings, basic, and without any useable rigging plan. Hoever, there are some nice dutch /flemish ships that van not be found elsewhere. Size of the book is A4, the right side has the drawing, the left side some bery basic info onwhere the drawings comes from (mostly own measurements from existing ship, or copy of original drawing). list of contents: (complete) And here the drawings that authentic ships used: veership: tjalk/steenschuit Boeier: Rigging plan of one of the ships (this is all you get, and this one is reasonably detailed) this one, has a more basic rigging plan And this onehas none. hope this gives an imprssion. Jan
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But that price is rediculous for what you get..... I don't know what is happening to second hand prices, but they are rising to extremes..... this one is more realistically priced: http://www.marelibri.com/search/current.seam?maximumPrice=0.0&keywords=&firstResult=0&faceted=true&ISBN=¢ury=ALL&selectedDatasources=1021&quicksearch=Versteeg+scheepsmodellen&l=nl&matchTypeList=ALL&author=&title=&description=&minimumPrice=0.0&minimumYear=0&sorting=PRICE_ASCENDING&booksellerName=&ageFilter=ALL&keycodes=&pod=false&maximumYear=0&actionMethod=search%2Fcurrent.xhtml%3AsearchEngine.quicksearch Jan
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Finally...had some time to work on De Ruyter again. I decided for a fix of the sides of the conning tower. First remove the offending parts next, cut a triangle from the spare grey that is included (I put a second layer on the backside. Had some problem with that, as my printer/scanner does some weird things with the color. Dark grey turns into a very light grey 🤔 aThe black line was done with a pencil after the piece was fitter. (I discovered a second problem with the forward structure but that is for later to solve). Scaldis does two sided print, but does not always succeed in getting the colour at the correct spot some paint is needed Last both sides of the tower are some boxes. I decided to do something drastic: remove all tabs it turned out that these little boxes are far easier without tabs than with. Makes a man think..... Next was the first platform on the tower. again, although cutting at the outside of the lines, it turned out that both parts did not completely match. Hopefully The hole in the upper side matches the conning tower, if not, we need a fix again (no spare for this colour....) and finally, I decided to give myself a (rather expensive) present. Boy, does that make cutting portholes easier...:) they even get perfectly round more tomorrow (or some other time) have a nice weekend, Jan
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Although that thing over the deck hasn't much curvature in reallife either, just enough clearance to have the ring the block is attached to some space for movement. Jan
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No, it is not in print. I got it for about 15 euros in a second hand shop. I wouldn't have paid more for it. It is not a real ook, it is a bunch of drawings/sketches, size A4 , with a plastic binding. it has a number of (mostly) inland ships from flanders and the netherlands, and a couple of larger ships. It is a nice to have, but the drawings are ralatively small (1 ship per page), and need some work before you can build a larger scalemodel. Ican do a couple of pics if you like.
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That boeier (as well as some other of their kits) were modellen based on drawings from this book: VERSTEEG,W.K. - Scheepsmodellen 1700 - 1900. Rather basic, solid hull models. (unfortunatedly, the milling of the hulls was not always very precise). I did this Boeier, the Tjalk, the Veerschip and the Botter. Still catching dust in my cupboard, but I still like the looks and size of these models. Rather sturdy and compact models: they survived all my moves. Jan
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Mediaeval Cog found in River Issen
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Yup, seen that (at least: the message, not the actual ship ) There were quite a number of wrecks on that site. Archeologists think the harbor authorities of the date tried to build some kind of dam, in order to prevent further sanding of the river mouth. The wreck was not raised, as the current practice in archeology is to preserve 'in situ'. Raising of the wreck was necessary, as the current river authorities needed to widen and deepen the rivermouth (in order to give it more capacity in times of severe rain-fall.) check this one: http://www.ijsselkogge.nl/ (partly in Dutch, but you sure can understand the pics) And: the river is called IJssel Jan -
Hi Denis, A bit off-topic, but can you show a pic of that Yamaha? I know the templates, but never saw one done. Jan
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How did you manage to glue those tiny bits on ? seriously: looking good. I never tried this tiny stuff. Would need some serious glasses to see them I guess. Jan
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Nice work on the cranes and planes! (planes are very convincing, even in the extreme close-up) btw: as far as the photographic evidence goes: the canopy has norear end. Al pics of the plane show the canopy open (and with a visible gun) Jan
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Hi Piet, I know that the third one (hrMs Celebes) was cancelled, but I never saw any drawings of her. You know that her lines were to be even better, suggesting that you found a drawing? Jan
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Hi Piet, Thanks for the pic. Didn't know that one. I love the lines of these Dutch cruisers. (actually, I like the lines of the Sumatra-class better. ONe of my favorite pic is the one of Java in Sydney: taken from a low point of view, alongside the hull. Really shows her lines.) I never realized that the 'scerw-protection' could be turned upward: I thought it was a fixed construction. Jan
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Not only is there a lot of puctures, also some films, almost all available though NIMH. Here is a film of (amongst others) hrms Java in Indonesia. Java at full speed is at 8:30 in this video. She could indeed churn up the waves... https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/memorix/93ea8f6e-5eba-11e1-88e0-deb8a456e588 and this one shows how the plane was lowered into the sea from java's deck: https://www.defensie.nl/actueel/nieuws/2012/02/27/unieke-film-van-hr-ms-java-boven-water-video And this one is notJava, but shows quite a lot of the Dutch subs (mainly o20, but the explanation says that O19 is also filmed and shown. https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/beeldbank/indeling/detail/start/7?q_searchfield=Hrms&f_objecttype[0]=film Jan
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btw I found this one : https://nimh-beeldbank.defensie.nl/beeldbank/indeling/gallery/start/24?q_searchfield=kruiser+Java a number of pictures. I guess these are also available through MaritiemDigitaal, but they are here at higher resolution. Jan
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But a nice picture anyway I guess I missed it, but is the table smaller than I think, or the model longer? and two other questions/remarks: when the Dutch from your sources starts to become too unfamiliar to you, there are people around on this forum who can translate the second one: do you know who the copyright-owner is for that film-fragment of Java firing? There are some films around in the Dutch navy Archive (NIMH, the Netherlands Institute for Military History/Nederlands Institutt voor Militaire Historie). Problem is that quite a lot of those old fragments are combined into films titled like: "De marine in Indie" Jan
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And another thing I discovered when I started looking for pics of the real ship: there is hardly any space left between heads and deck. So: I had the wrong impressions of the size of the real ship. Jan
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