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wrkempson got a reaction from Canute in Color of ratlines
Also for what it is worth, colors do not behave on small models the same way as on full size ships. Here we are getting into the area of scale colors. I would observe that a very light colored ratline on a black (maybe) shroud will pop out to the eye on the model. An even worse mistake that I have committed is to use a line that is too large. The scale size of the ratline should not be exceeded, but may be lessened if anything. When I look at photos of full rigged ships, the ratlines are barely visible unless one makes the effort to see them. I don't think the ratline should call attention to itself. As always, the usual disclaimer.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from BobG in Knighthead
I presume you are building the Model Shipways kit. If so, I found the manual at http://modelexpo-online.com/assets/images/documents/MS2018-Flying_Fish-Instructions-Complete.pdf . On page 24 Figure 36B there is a good illustration. The knightheads are the two timbers on either side of the opening for the bowsprit and each one receives an eyebolt. The Figure gives a profile and top view of the piece you are asked to make. The exact shape will be determined by your own model so the process is to cut and fit, sand, fit, shape again, fit, etc. until the timbers are in place. I do not have the plans, but the manual points you in the right direction. On the actual vessel, the knightheads extend from the rail level down along the side of the stem to a place well below the water line. On your model they are represented with only the visible portion above the deck. When you install them make sure they are secure as they will have quite a bit of strain on them from the fore stay that attaches to the eyebolts.
It is unclear to me what your exact question might be, but maybe the above helps.
Wayne
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wrkempson reacted to allanyed in Knighthead
Hi
If you would be so kind, please let us know a little more.
What is your name?
What ship? Is it a kit, POF, or POB? Different solutions depending on the type of build.
You will surely get some responses, but need to share a little more information.
Thanks and welcome to MSW
Allan
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wrkempson got a reaction from aviaamator in Anchor Hoy c. 1825 by Maury S - FINISHED - 1:48 - Harbor craft - POF
I note your water lines are not the same height as those on the original plan and so of course will not match up with the halfbreadth plan. Without drawing them out, I suspect this would account for a great deal of the variance.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from druxey in Cutter Grace 1763
Very nice. Getting the right entry and run can be quite a challenge.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from mtaylor in Enigmatic contract term
This is new to me as well. According to the Online Etymology Dictionary the term "staircase" appears in the 1620's in reference to the enclosure of the stairs. I know we are looking at a contracts 150 years later, but it seems to me the nautical "staircase" or "stair case" or "stair-case" might refer to iron railings, hand rails, etc. that might surround (encase) the ladders. So my vote goes to staircase=handrails. In support I note that this section of the contract comes far distant from where the storage rooms would be described, lying between the office cabins and the pantries. Thus, the use of iron for casing the ladders would be of a more ornamental nature. This is pure speculation.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from trippwj in Enigmatic contract term
This is new to me as well. According to the Online Etymology Dictionary the term "staircase" appears in the 1620's in reference to the enclosure of the stairs. I know we are looking at a contracts 150 years later, but it seems to me the nautical "staircase" or "stair case" or "stair-case" might refer to iron railings, hand rails, etc. that might surround (encase) the ladders. So my vote goes to staircase=handrails. In support I note that this section of the contract comes far distant from where the storage rooms would be described, lying between the office cabins and the pantries. Thus, the use of iron for casing the ladders would be of a more ornamental nature. This is pure speculation.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from thibaultron in Lines Plans
Dropping perpendiculars from the half breadth plan to the sheer plan identifies the darkest lines as the rail line, as you surmised. A few waterlines run outside this line because of the slight tumblehome. The diagonals generally run wider. The confusion at the bow seems (to me) to be the result of careless drawing. I'm not sure about the confusion at the stern. At least, this is my less than expert take on things.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from druxey in Lines Plans
Dropping perpendiculars from the half breadth plan to the sheer plan identifies the darkest lines as the rail line, as you surmised. A few waterlines run outside this line because of the slight tumblehome. The diagonals generally run wider. The confusion at the bow seems (to me) to be the result of careless drawing. I'm not sure about the confusion at the stern. At least, this is my less than expert take on things.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from mtaylor in Lines Plans
Dropping perpendiculars from the half breadth plan to the sheer plan identifies the darkest lines as the rail line, as you surmised. A few waterlines run outside this line because of the slight tumblehome. The diagonals generally run wider. The confusion at the bow seems (to me) to be the result of careless drawing. I'm not sure about the confusion at the stern. At least, this is my less than expert take on things.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from Dan Vadas in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Ed, I'm pretty sure that renegade eye bolt came from my work table. It was lost some time ago. I thought it had vanished into thin air, but now I know it fell through a space warp into your CAD program.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from iosto in HMS Atalanta 1775 by tlevine - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - from TFFM plans
To wit: below is the forecastle of a 70 gun ship c. 1715
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wrkempson got a reaction from AON in HMS Atalanta 1775 by tlevine - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - from TFFM plans
To wit: below is the forecastle of a 70 gun ship c. 1715
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wrkempson got a reaction from Canute in Swan class 3D model in progress
Astounding model. Thank you for the renderings.
May I ask what software is being used and, if not too personal, what are the specs on the computer employed?
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from PeteB in Swan class 3D model in progress
Astounding model. Thank you for the renderings.
May I ask what software is being used and, if not too personal, what are the specs on the computer employed?
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from AON in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Ed, I'm pretty sure that renegade eye bolt came from my work table. It was lost some time ago. I thought it had vanished into thin air, but now I know it fell through a space warp into your CAD program.
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from gjdale in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper
Ed, I'm pretty sure that renegade eye bolt came from my work table. It was lost some time ago. I thought it had vanished into thin air, but now I know it fell through a space warp into your CAD program.
Wayne
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wrkempson reacted to dvm27 in Swan class 3D model in progress
I could tell you Wayne...but then I'd have to kill you! Seriously, our renderings are being done by a very talented individual in Europe. I have no idea what software or computer he uses and wouldn't understand even if he told me. But I honestly can't tell whether the photo below is his rendering or my model.
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wrkempson got a reaction from mtaylor in Swan class 3D model in progress
Astounding model. Thank you for the renderings.
May I ask what software is being used and, if not too personal, what are the specs on the computer employed?
Wayne
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wrkempson got a reaction from Archi in Anchor Hoy c. 1825 by Maury S - FINISHED - 1:48 - Harbor craft - POF
I note your water lines are not the same height as those on the original plan and so of course will not match up with the halfbreadth plan. Without drawing them out, I suspect this would account for a great deal of the variance.
Wayne
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wrkempson reacted to Brucealanevans in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
Whaleboats are done. I've had to stop myself from adding a few more details that don't really add anything to the visual impact of these, and I'm declaring victory!
I've put the boats aside to begin working on oars, probably paddle sets, and the spars/sail bundles. I haven't put the eyes for hanging on yet, as I want to make certain the lines hang straight down from the davits, so will customize them for each specific boat's place. It looks like there may be a few mm variability.
Final boat photos below (25 cent piece for scale)
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wrkempson reacted to Brucealanevans in Charles W Morgan by Brucealanevans - FINISHED - Model Shipways
The whaleboats are now done except for the rudders. Today finished the rigging of the steering oar braces, added the steering oar rests, two cleats inside rail aft, and did some touch-up.
I'm not sure if I'll give the boats a coat of white (below the rubbing strips) since I kind of like the weathered and beaten look of the primer coat.
Tomorrow, detailing the rudders and deciding on the rigging of the 2 lines that suspend them in the stored position.
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wrkempson got a reaction from mtaylor in HBMS Amphion 1798 by Matrim - 32 Gun 18pdr Frigate
I am interested to know if you have taken the scarph arrangements from your plans. In a brief review last night, it seems that the scarphs were not usually drawn in. For Euryalus they were drawn in. I am attaching the keelson pieces from Euryalus that indicates the orientation of the scarphs. I could never make a great deal of sense out of it. The only thing I could come up with was that the keelson pieces were installed in the order 4,5,6,1,2,3. This would allow two gangs to fit the pieces in situ (4&1, 2&5, 6&3 being done simultaneously). Your arrangement, of course, would install 1,2,3,4,5,6. This is no big deal, but I thought I would mention it in passing.
Wayne
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wrkempson reacted to Mark P in HBMS Amphion 1798 by Matrim - 32 Gun 18pdr Frigate
Greetings gentlemen;
Some very interesting points have been raised above. I have the NMM draught of 'Tremendous', a 74 launched in 1785. She has exactly the same arrangement of scarphs in the keelson as Wayne has drawn above: 1,2 - 4,5,6, with 3 obviously fitted last. Splitting this into work for two gangs makes sense.
Shipwrights were paid in instalments for the work, with each payment related to the completion of a recognised stage in the building. I am not sure of all the stages, but I believe that the laying of the keelson was the final part of one of these. In which case, quite possibly the final part of the keelson was known as 'the money piece' (or the 'let's all go down to the tavern' piece!)
All the best,
Mark P
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wrkempson reacted to druxey in HBMS Amphion 1798 by Matrim - 32 Gun 18pdr Frigate
It's interesting to note the variations in direction of keelson scarphs. On my present model the pieces were installed starting aft.