garyshipwright

Hi Bruce d. I did finally get a reply which came from Henry Kriegstein late Friday but didn't get to it till today. Took the family to Cincinnati and just got a chance to look at it. It helped me answer question about pillar's in the manger and was it possible that they may of been used as roller's for the messenger. I was excited to see this in their book, the pillar's in the manger but looked to be holding up the beams and not what you think of as rollers. Hard to really make it out from the picture for sure. I would post it but would have to ask the Kriegstein first to make sure its ok. If your interested let me know please and will ask them if it ok. Gary

Thank's very much Mark P for all of your help. Gary

Thank you very much Hubac's and hopfully I have another up date some time in the near future.

Well guys, sort of out done my self this time on updates, figure it was time to work on the mast to make sure it fit in place before I can't get to certain places. After a couple of daysI finally got the fore mast looking some thing like a mast, but still a long way to go with it but its a start. Have to say thank you to Alan and druxey for info on the mast and helping me bring it to life.

Thanks Siggi. It's no problem, the new photo show's what was missing, the over head view of the forcastle. Thank you again Gary

Looks good Siggi. On the one photo that you showed how you draw out the size of the main headrail what angle are you using? Thank's Gary

Have to agree with you 100 percent No Idea. Really outstanding work Albert. Been watching your build and she is really growing.

Thank you Chuck, its nice to be back to working on her.

Thanks you Albert.

Thank you druxey and your very welcome.

Hi Every one, Its been awhile since my last update and most probably figure I fell off the ends of the world. Well the misses sent me a life line and finally went back to doing some thing on her. I sort of been stuck on the cables and how the messenger was routed. Ben from Ropes of Scale help me on the cable and Druxey gave me the ideal about the snatch block. So I went to work on making a snatch block for the messenger using Lee's measurement, from his book The Masting and Rigging of English ships. It didn't come out to bad But I leave that up to you.

Hi pm. I do believe that the showing of the eyebolts on the outside were a french/continental preference. But am also not sure that this was that, a preference. When you go through the photo's of the models in the Musee de la Marine collection, Historic Ship models you will see that most of them do not have the through bolts on the outside just like the English models in the NMM. Doesn't mean they didn't do it but each country did things a little different in their ship building. In one of the contract that I have, and was written in 1782 for a 74 gun ship, which I believe was also used for the Bellerophon, has information on how the eyebolts were installed for the gun ports. To have four Ring, and two Eye bolts to each gun port with bolts of 1 3/8 inches diameter two of the ring bolts to be place in the second timber from the port, the rings 5 inches diameter in the clear, the eye sufficiently open for the tackle hooks. To have sufficient number of ring bolts on the deck for the guns, with bolts of 1 1/8 inches diameter and for the stoppers with bolts of 1 5/8 inches diameter the diameter of the rings of the stopper bolts 6 1/2 inches in the clear with short snug eyes, let well down into the deck and the ends of the bolts to be clenched. To have two eye bolts over each port for lashing the guns of 1 1/4 and to be placed as high as possible , to give the better room for securing the muzzle of the gun on the clamp, the eyes to be 2 5/8 inches in the clear, the ring and eye bolts to be well forelocked and so well let in, as only to let the ring have play, the bolts that forelock with out board to have short thick points and fore lock holes that the rings may be let into the wood in belaying them. It is your model and if you want to show the through bolts, that is total up to you and others. It is a nice detail but I think I will wait on the next one that I do. This is a little late but maybe it might help the next person. Gary

Hi Siggi. I gain a lot of information when going through your log and really enjoy what the crew is doing, which is a really outstanding job. Watching what your doing really help's my crew carry on with building Montague/Alfred. Look forward to the next job that your crew under takes in the coming future.

The pear wood has been sold.

Outstanding Piotrek. What a wonderful build and the detail is out of this world. Thank you for giving us the chance to look at and enjoy your build on a very well built ship model. Gary

Hi Kevin I have to agree with you on the movement because Alfred's frames did the same thing when I was trying to sand them down. One of the things I did, is along the same lines but I made some temporary ribbands and use bread ties to tie then in place. Didn't think about PVA at that time You can get roll's of this stuff, at a cheap price. The photo's below show some of the temporary ribbands.

Alan you will know when its finished when you ran a plank across it and your fingers feel nothing but a level area from bow to stern. This and when your happy with it. It looks like your have a lot of fun but she does look good from my screen. Another thing you could do is cut some small battans and planks and tie them to the hull at different height and this will help you figure out if its faired. Of course you already knew this about the above items. Gary

Nice job Toni, you done a heck of a job and enjoyed watching you build it. Thanks for sharing. Gary

Bitao, that is one outstanding build you have going. She is looking great and ship shape. Look forward to your next update. Gary

Looking good Alan. Now were have I seen this hull before? When it came to Alfred those many years ago I broke up a glass from a picture frame and use the pieces to help me with all the differnt angle's and tight places. Do be carefull if you do. Can't ever remember cutting my self, not sure were I read this.

Good Evening Mark and thank you. That's not good, search results being very limited. Seems it could cause a big traffic jam and long waiting list. I spent a few hour's today and yesterday looking through their plans but never found one of the Queen, accept a deck plan. Well the search goes on. Once again thank you. Gary

Thanks Druxey. Well I will give Pen and Sword Books a try. Thank guys. Gary

Thank's Druxey I have already done that, just have not heard any thing back. Hi Siggi your right sir they do have plans but as you said not this one and thank you. Hi Bruce. am not sure but can you let me know how I go about finding that out, picture credit that is. Thanks again guys. Gary

Hello every one. I have a question and hope that you good folk's can help shed some light on this. I am trying to find this print of the Queen of 1769 in Arnold and Henry Kriegstein newest book which is a joy to read and looking at the model's in his book, Historic Ship Models of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries in the Kriegstein Collection. The photo is on page 245 of the Queen of 1769, a second rate which says that it is draft shown to King George 3rd in 1773. I have contacted the NMM for a number and maybe getting a copy but with out the plan number it a little on the hard side. I did go through the plan site that Allan showed us but no Queen of 1769. I also have been looking through the NMM site for it but so far nothing. I also sent a email about it to seaforth publishing but nothing back from them yet. Any help would be great and most helpful. Thanks guys. Look forward in hearing from you. Gary

Very well put good sir,