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Siggi one of the contract's I have, time frame wise ,1770 and also used in 1775 says that the gun deck and upper deck had 11 per side. I looked for the number of standard's in a couple of books, for your time frame but could not find the number, other then the number of them in your post. My reason for the question was if there is only two standards on the gun deck per side where would that placement be. Maybe as you said in the middle of the deck. It does say the iron ones on the upper deck were place under the forecastle and quarter deck but still doesn't say where. I added a picture showing the ones on my gun deck. It may come down to, she didn't have many, just what the establishments said. Siggi I was able to go back, contract wise to 1755 to the 74 gun ship Warspite and it said that there was 13 standards per side on the Gun/Upper deck. Then I went forward to 1763 to the Marlborough and seems to have been reduced down to 11per side per deck. I wonder if any one has contracts that takes us back even further. Sort of like a time machine. Ggary
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Hi Siggi. Question, does it say where these standards are located? I am looking for a answer but so far have not come up with a answer for you. Will be back? Gary
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That's ok Richard and thank you for the help. That's what counts. i also had to buy a new lever collet closer Riser so in the long run I just may have to purchase 1291 along with those other items, that is if I can get my request approved. It does seem when you change one thing, you have to change 30 more items. 🥺Gary
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Thanks Richard but I need to raise the tailstock. The one I purchased is 1294. If I use item 1291, riser block, then I would have to buy a lot more of the items on your page which would raise the cost over all and don't believe the ladyship will approved the request. I already have Tool post along with other item's and purchasing tall one's would be just a waste of money. Cheaper in the long run just to raise the tail stock end, if I can figure out how. Might have to modify the tail stock it self. Thanks again. Gary.
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Thanks Richards I saw that one but its to tall. The head stock riser that am getting only raising the head stock a 1/4 of a inch from what I can tell and the one you mention I believe raise's the head stock a little over a inch. The 8 inch table is 7/8 of a inch thick and the 6 inch cross slide table is 5/8 thick. Thank you. Gary
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Hay guys have question for you and hoping maybe some one has a answer on it. On my Sherline lathe I am adding a 8 inch cross slide table to it but have to get a riser block for the headstock but my question is what about the tailstock? If I raise the headstock it seem's that I also need to raise the tail stock the same amount but have not seen any thing about Sherling making a riser block for that. Do you know what others do to raise the tail stock so the centers are right and even with each other? I can't see changing the 8 inch out to the 6 inch when I need to use the tail stock and we like to leave it set up with the 8 inch table permanently. All ideals and thought's are much needed. Thanks. Gary
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John to answer your question on are deck cutouts needed. The answer is it depends. Is there some thing to see or is it a black hole underneith. What it comes down to is some times it's what the ship wright wants to do. Being that you are the shipwright of your vessel it is what every you want to do. It would be easier if you planked the subpanel and then cut out the holes if there isn't any thing to see and if there is then you might want to open it up. It goes along with me building a tank and installing all of the parts in side of it and once all the parts have been installed on goes the cover and you then can't see anything that you installed, which is ok and covering it all up was always a toss up, Do I or don't I. Much like putting a B17 together and not seeing what's on the inside. Most of the time it's just what the builder wants and nothing more. Another saying is its the journey, not the finish line. Hope this of some help. Gary
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John please don't feel Intimidated, we all started out very much like your self, and probably felt the same when I would ask those very same question on some ones build that to me had been doing this for a very long time. Others here have already answered some of your points but if you have any question hope over to my log and will be happy to help any way I can, not only your self but other's. Gary -
Hi Alan. When I was building my frames up for Alfred/Montagu I made all the pieces of that frame a little over size because of the parts being off set. Am not sure if you have a mill but I milled the pieces that were needed to be reduced in thickness, much as you show above, which had spacer's some times underneith to help keep every thing level. Those spacer's were glue to one side or the other with rubber cement and once ever thing was milled they could be removed and the cement rubbed off. I increased the size of my table by clamping a piece of temper glass to support the whole frame. Cast timber's were made thicker and then milled down with the help of thicker spacer's. You can see the cast timber in the last photo label number 5 at the top.
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Hi Danial. Just to let you know good sir I have a very high respect for your skill and a out standing build that show's a very very high skill of work and understanding of your build. If i was a judge in a show of model's, I would give you the gold, silver and bronze medal's. You would deserve every one of them. Please keep up the outstanding build. Gary
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Hello every one. Here is a small update on my build showing the stages that making a cast knee goes through to become a cast knee for my build. Also a few photos showing the fore mast partner on the upper gun deck beams.The photo also show's the bolts being installed and is made up of 10 piece's of wood. Hope you enjoy the photo's
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Mark I have to agree with druxey on the exhaust of the stove and on the sheaves and or standards I do believe you would be ok if you added them or didn't. I have gone through my plans and some show the breast work knees and some that don't. The same thing with models some have them others do not. I think that from a different point of view having those knees would help those items to resist the stress of the rigging and being pulled loose from the deck itself. I also found three model's in the gallery that show them having those knees, the Ajax 1767, Hercule/Thunder 1760 and the Egmont 1768, along with the framed Bellona, so I do believe you are in good company. The number of sheaves in them, still looking for a answer on that one.
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Hi Stuglo. You are doing a really great job but I would leave a little meat on the parts for finishing. Cutting to the line and leaving your self nothing to finish fairing the cant frames will give you a real head ack which I had to get the misses to buy me a couple of bottles of aspirin that helped when I was building Montague frames. You probably already know this but I like to sneak up on the line which help me, and to this day still sneak up on the line. Keeps me out of trouble. Seems I had to redo my cant's two or three times before I was happy with them and each time i got closer to what I was trying for. Here is a photo or two of the cant frames on my Montague. Keep up the good work and will be watching your build. Hope this is of some help to you. Gary
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Mark I have a couple of question if you don't mind. From looking at the deck plan it looks like you have two large carlings underneith the stove. Is there a reason why it is showing two? After looking at the sheer plan, it shows that the pillars are on the side of that carling I mention above and shouldn't they be underneith that carling to support it? Some thing else I noticed Mark is I don't believe that they would have installed a pillar under the cat beam because of the collar beam set up. Here's a photo of my beak head and bellona that you shared that shows the heavy type of stantions that was used to hold the bow sprit in place along with supporting the cat beam. Gary
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Hi Marsalv. You are really doing a outstanding job and enjoying your build. Thank you for sharing. Gary
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Hi Levmiller. Have you thought about hard Maple. It's a good looking wood and built Richard's frames from it. Its also good for full size furniture like a hobby desk and woodworkers bench. I prefere a light creamy type of wood such as para marfin and castillo box wood and use woods like pear for accent's. The model am building today have para marfin for the frames and really like the color of the wood. Came out like a honey looking color. Gary
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