garyshipwright

Hi Clay. Well good sir my thought process on the framing  was I used butt's to hold the parts of the frame together that is shown on page 18 in Goodwin's book. Being a expert , thank you for that, but call my self more of a student who will never finish school.  When i started building my frames I did use chocks to hold the parts together but being that you make  about  a 130 frames it takes awhile  which is why I used the butt and dowel that hold's those parts together. Not as time consuming and once the planks  are installed on the outside and inside you can't see the chocks but if I had to do it again I would have installed the chocks, but today that is just a bit of hind sight on my part. Installing the chocks does take a while and after three years of framing figure chocks would have added 2 years to their building, for me anyway. Chock's would be more accurate doing our time frame. Now the sister frames  would have been called bends and it seems that He shows this on page 14,16 and 18. What they usually did, as far as I can tell in Alfred's/Warrior time frame,  would be to to build one bend( two frames put together as one) two single filling frames that did not touch each other and then another bend. Some where around the dead flat there was a changing of the floors so at that place you would have a floor, a first futtock and then another floor.  What they did is at the forward part of the hull the floors would be on forward side and aft the would be on the aft side. I added  a photo of Alfred's framing plan and my framing ,  they are about as close as I can get them. If you look at station 1 and the dead flat you will see the switching of the floor. How you can tell is that there is three filling frames between the two bend's and usually you only had two filler's.  Now the bend's didn't touch as the went up but was pushed apart with blocks of wood , so the upper parts of the frame's could make up the side of the gun port. Those parts of the frame were bolted together were the blocks were installed . I colored those blocks black and shows that this was a station and the filling frames did not have those blocks. Hope this makes sense Clay. Gary

Hi Mark. Your set up looks very very good and may have to redo the set up for the other tools like the disk sander and thickness sander. My 
Byrnes Prec saw are on a roll around tool stand that has a vacuum in side of it. I did buy a  couple of blast gates for the mill and lathe but didn't install them. I have one of those on-off- switch  and may get another one for those tools. The one I have is on the full size drill press and the vacuum. I do have a switch above the bench that turns on the vacuum but having the hose loose I can use it to help keep the bench clean when the machines are not using it.    Hi Clay. In your first photo it shows that stanchen but I have not come across one in our ships manger time frame. As far as which hole they used, I don't think it matter's and was left up to the person in charge and you being the person in charge is left up to you. Now I saw that photo from  Romero and there is a couple of things that stick out like a sore thumb and both do not fit our time frame for Warror or Alfred. The rollers that he shows didn't come in to use till the 1800 I believe. I take a look and see if I can find where I read this. I looked for them but could never find any thing about them,  till our ships time which is probably why Hahn left them out. The only answer I can give about the messenger going around the foremast in the manger was they crew helped it. Now on the other hand, they may of done something like the rollers in Alfred/Warror time frame but nothing I can find.   If you find a answer good sir would very much enjoy the answer. I believe he didn't give a source was because he was the source and probably used McGowan's drawing of the  Victory  which does  show them but once again they would be out of place in ours. Another set of items that you see in Romero  drawing is a set of standards that look like knees up against the wall, which there should only be one and that one would be in the center up against the stem. Another item that is missing is the Hawse hook that set below the hawse holes. This would be on the Alfred/Warrior but not on the Montague. I will  put a photo or two, one of Alfred and one of Montague and you will see the difference. If Romero had looked in to a couple of contracts during that time he would of found that they only had one at the bow helping strengthing the stem. He could of used Steel of 1805 could also have came in handy to help him. O well live and learn. 

I finally finished installing channels, deadeyes and chains after a long time.

Alan where is the PDF? I seem to be having a slight problem finding it. Thank you sir. Gary

Looking good Alan. Seems good sir you are getting them done a lot faster then I did.  Of course am  a slow poke. Just goes to show you after cutting the first one the rest are a piece of cake. Gary 

Hi No Ideal. Just wonder where you  can find the right size needle's  of 1.5, 1.75. or .021,.03  and .036 or .56mm, 78mm .94 mm. I have looked for those sizes but can not find them. If you know where they are I would be happy in buying some. Thank you in advance. Gary

That's what I thought. Went to Greenwich and got one from them for about 50 plus shipping. It's of the class and has the body plan and water lines one need's to build her, if he uses them.  Should be here in a couple of week's. 

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well guy's after a couple of weeks I finally finished the build board and the Center keel. The plywood for the bulkheads should be here tomorrow  and I can get started on them. Between the two, the Winchelsea and the Montague,  they  should keep me busy.  

Kevin she look's really good and the finish really bring's out planking job. Good job . Gary

Kevin she look's really good and the finish really bring's out planking job. Good job . Gary

Kevin she look's really good and the finish really bring's out planking job. Good job . Gary

some special, non-quality photos....

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Thank you sir. Well long story short, on the draft, they can't print out any thing bigger then A4 and being that the ship draft is  a whole lot longer. They said I could get a computer print HD which I would have to down loaded and take it to the printers to blow it back up. That part is ok until they told me it was a 176 dollar's for the scan. I just cancel the order  think I just take the misses out for dinner. O well. Gary

Added two times five rows of 7/32 planking. Practiced with my 3B pencil under the upper row. Waiting for my ochre red paint to arrive from the UK.
Frank.

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well good sir's I just about have the forward capstan completed, just need to add  a few more items to the upper capstan and then I can get started on the main one. Gary 

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Dress Rehearsal:
 
The 'kit' (more or less):

 
Assembled:

 

 

 

 

 
This is just glued up, I haven't touched up the joints yet and probably never will on this version. I have yet to paint the trophy of arms and do the glazing, I'll cover these in another post.
 
I'm pleased with the outcome overall. There are some tweaks to be done (at a later date); the lower balustrade on the side gallery appears to protrude, it is more the case that the main stern plate needs to come out a fraction more. In real time the error is almost imperceptible. At the time I made the figurine integral to the middle window row I still hadn't learned how to sculpt 3D files, and is a poor effort. This will be re-made to match the depth of the scrollwork and to be more lifelike. I gave in to a lack of self-confidence when painting the stripes down the edge of the stern plate and just painted one stripe. I should have been braver or thought about it for longer and painted all three. I have a method in mind now, for next time.
 
Most of all though, I'm just glad to have got it finished to a 'good enough' level. I was not enjoying this anymore a couple of months ago and would have gladly thrown in the towel if I wasn't such a stubborn chap. So, apart from painting the trophy and doing the glazing, I'm going to put this to bed now, have a bit of a break, try out some different software and mess about with much, much easier areas such as the side entrance and cannons.
 

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary

Well I got got a little bit done with  all the bulkheads cut out and dry fitted.  Have now started installing them with some hide glue which gives me a little time to adjust them once installed. The hide glue is a little slower in drying so you have just a bit more time.  I know most have seen hundred of this  so I will keep marching on. Gary