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  1. While I'm waiting for the rest of the copper plates to arrive from Ages of Sail, I'm doing what I can to move forward.  Here are the planked decks.

     

    I can do the next steps involving more deck finishing, but don't want to do the port covers or the white hull strips until I finish the coppering, because they will mar/bend when I lay the ship on its side.

     

    Regards,

    David

    Decks Planked.jpg


  2. [EDIT NOTE:  As sometimes happens on this site, the pictures came out in reverse order from what I intended]

     

    I'm stuck at the moment because there aren't enough copper plates in the kit to finish the job -- by about 400.  Ages of Sail is sending me more, but in the meantime I'm working around it to the extent I can, which is limited.

     

    I've mentioned above that I used a different approach to copper each side of the hull.  On the first side I started at the keel, then worked up a bit, then went to the waterline, worked down, and then fitted the two together.  You can see that in the picture below.

     

    On the second side (the one I plan to display), I started at the waterline and am working down (you can see where I ran out of plates).  As the picture shows, it's a much better looking pattern up close.

     

    From 3 feet or more away, the first side looks fine, but the display side looks much better.

     

    Regards,

    David

    Copper Layout 2.jpg

    Copper Layout 1.jpg


  3. I haven't posted in a while because I've been coppering, coppering, coppering . . .

     

    One side now done -- picture attached.  I started on the side I don't plan to display so I could learn from it.  Results are fine, but on the other side I think I'll start at the waterline and bring it down to the keel, where the final fitting of odd pieces and shapes will be easier.  On this side, I did it where the bottom and top layers met, and it was a LOT of cutting, filing, and fitting.

     

    I'm a bit concerned about my supply of copper plates, but we'll see how that goes.  May have to call Ages of Sail for a "make good".

     

    Regards,

    David

    Coppering First Side.jpg


  4. HOF:

     

    Thanks -- the YouTube videos were really helpful.  He's using very thin plates -- mine are the thicker kit plates so I don't have the same flexibility he does.

     

    Two big things I took out of the videos:

     

    1. The idea of end-capping the cutwater, stern and keel.  It's given me a new thought on how to do that on my model.
    2. I'm reflecting on his approach of doing the waterline with a row of plates and then using cut plates in the middle to finish off.  I was going to trim plates to fit at the waterline.  On reflection, I think his way will work better and so that's what I'll do.  

    I'm using medium glue all the way, and it's working pretty well.  I'll post a shot when I get a bit further along.

     

    Regards,

    David


  5. Here's why I abandoned the tape.  I made up a strip of the copper tape and put it above a row of the real plates that I have started at the keel.

     

    It's really hard to get good shots of this because of the way the tape and plates reflect light, but you can see it in these two pics.  The pounce wheel does a fair job of making rivet marks at top and bottom, but the divider rivets just don't look right -- AND, the tape is really shiny compared to the copper plates.

     

    Regards,

    David

    Coppering 1.jpg

    Coppering 2.jpg


  6. Have now painted the upper part of the hull black.  I brushed on the paint vs. spraying.  If I spray, I get spray mist all over my workroom (even with major plastic dropcloths) and have to be super careful not to track it into the house.  Just a mess.  I have a small exhaust fan mounted high, and maybe I'll get motivated and buy some flexible ducting to bring the exhaust down to the spray area I use.  But I used a foam brush here and it worked fine.

     

    Time to start coppering.  I'm going to see if I can make copper tape work.  Stay tuned.

     

    Regards,

    David

    Black Hull.jpg


  7. So here's my plan for painting.  I don't want to paint the lower part of the hull, because I've read that paint can be a poor surface for coppering.  So as shown in the pics below, I have put pins in the hull just about 1mm below the waterline.  I'll leave them in and paint down to them only.  

     

    Then when I copper the hull, I'll come up to them and use the holes as a guide for the last copper row, which will cover the holes.

     

    Anyhow, that's the idea and we'll see how it works. 

     

    Regards,

    David

    Waterline 1.jpg

    Waterline 2.jpg


  8. Harry:

     

    Yes, the brass bulwarks would have been a help as I have to be really really careful.  No need for template as I can take spacing and measurements from the drawing, but just need to be really careful when cutting them out.

     

    The ports don't hit any of the bulwark extensions, so no sequence issue there.

     

    And yes, those strips are rubbing strakes.  So much for my nautical vocabulary.  🥴

     

    Regards,

    David


  9. I've finished the second planking now and have applied 3 coats of varnish, but . . .

     

    The instructions puzzle me, because they call for finish painting of the hull, coppering, and applying decorative wood strips to the outside before cutting the ports and sanding the inside bulwarks.  That seems to me to be a prescription for messing up the hull work.  So I haven't done the final sand on the varnish or painting or coppering yet, and as you can see I'm cutting the ports now.  Tough to get those square and lined up with each other.

     

    Then I'll remove the ribs and sand the inside bulwarks, and THEN I'll paint it and copper it.  I'm only going to paint down to just below the waterline, so that the coppering (for which my plan is to use tape) will have a better surface to adhere to.

     

    One of you who has done the Cutty Sark before will likely tell me that I've made a serious sequence error, but it doesn't seem like it.  Just another "look ahead" lesson.

     

    Regards,

    David

    Second Planking.jpg


  10. Hof:

     

    My kit has the flat rail stanchions, and I think I'll live with those.

     

    Are the brass bulwarks specific to the Cutty Sark?  Mantua has an extensive UK site (I think it's a distributor, but a lot of fittings) and the bulwarks aren't there. in the fittings section or the Cutty accessories.  Thanks for the Mantua email -- I'll think about getting those.

     

    Yes, I am going to copper the hull, but after doing some research and reading about plates popping off, I am going to go with copper tape, onto which I will emboss rivets with a pounce wheel.  I think it should make the coppering go a bit faster.

     

    Regards,

    David

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