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  1. Bill97
    Thanks guys. Henry before I cross the yards I want to be prepared. Looking at the Heller instructions I am considering (no appropriate nautical terms here 😊) turning all the yards on the masts as they would have been downwind wing aft port. Anything additional I need to be aware of? Am I just asking for trouble?
  2. Bill97
    All three mast tops rigged and installed to include shrouds, ratlines, crows feet, blocks, etc. Now on to somewhere I am not sure yet. Henry back in post 984 where I was discussing where to go next to recommended “You could consider crossing the main yard.” Could you please explain more what you meant?
  3. Bill97
    What in the world is the creature I saw on my work table 😳. Oh wait now I recognize it. It is the fully rigged main mast top! What an adventure. I went with tying the futtock shrouds to the deadeye strops instead of a hook. Same on the fore mast top. Crows feet ready as well to be lashed to the mainstay and adjusted.
  4. Bill97
    Marc your ship will have to be in a museum or on display somewhere when finished. No way it should set on a shelf in your home for only a few to see. It is an absolute work of art. Incredible job my friend.
  5. Bill97
    And now with the futtock shroud ratlines completed except for trimming when touch of glue dries.
  6. Bill97
    Bunch of work at the fore mast since last post. Rigged the mast top, installed it, and the top mast. On the mast top I made I made and blacked wire strops for the lower deadeyes. Also attached the crowfeet to the top and to the forestay using Anderson’s guidance to make a euphroe. Added a futtock stave to both sets of lower shrouds. Added catherpins to the shrouds and am working on the futtock shrouds and eventual ratlines.
  7. Bill97
    Henry that is exactly everything I did on my HMS Victory.
  8. Bill97
    Ok gentlemen a little early Sunday morning discussion. I am reading and comparing my Heller instructions and Anderson’s book on three topics. One is the deadeye/futtock shroud rigging. The Heller instructions describe the process of simply lashing a thread around an appropriate size deadeye, pass the thread through the hole in the top, and then tie the end of the futtock shroud to the lower shrouds. Simple as that. Anderson on page 110 discusses at the end of the 16th century the deadeyes were given a metal “puttock-plate” strop that was passed down through the top. A rope was then hooked or tied to the plate and then tied to the lower shrouds. This was the process for my HMS Victory. Obviously simply tying a thread around the deadeye and passing through the top would be much easier than making metal strops, but may or may not be accurate. Next is the use, or not, of a futtock staff? The Heller instructions do not indicate the need to add one. The French Royal Louis had futtock staffs in 1692, according to Anderson. Last curiosity is the use of catharpins? Again Heller does not address this. Anderson on page 114 has one sentence reference French ships. “In French ships, too, it seems to have been usual to dispense with catharpins up to 1700 at least.” Three curiosity I need to be clear about before moving into this step. Your thoughts?
  9. Bill97
    Nice art work and history Ferrus?
  10. Bill97
    Was looking over my future direction and noticed I had yet to install the mizzenmast stay 😳! Of course had to do that next. As with the fore and main masts I built a stay with a mouse at the top and a block at the bottom. I also made a collar to go around the base of the main mast and added a block to it. Both blocks on the mizzenmast mast stay are double sheave. A lashed them together with a lanyard matching the other two stays.
  11. Bill97
    Henry your suggestion is right out of the old Heller instructions. It shows moving on next to the tops. The newer addition moves toward the sprityards.
  12. Bill97
    Pendants and tackles fitted for main and mizzenmast. It is tricky to get the threads to run straight between the blocks of the tackle without crossing. I was eventually able to get all 10 tackles straight and acceptable. I now have to decide what to work on next. Instructions show adding and rigging the two yards on the bowsprit. Where would you guys go next?
  13. Bill97
    Thank you gentlemen. Started switching the mainmast pendants from thimbles to blocks and will rig the tackles today. Then I will need to follow up with the two on the mizzenmast. Will then need to study the instructions to see where I go next.
  14. Bill97
    Thanks Michael.
  15. Bill97
    Ok gentlemen correction made to my screw up yesterday. I took the thimbles off and replaced them with the upper blocks of the tackles. Henry I tried your idea of just lashing the blocks to the thimbles but I just could not get a look I was satisfied with. Would the falls which I now have tied at a deadeye have further coiled on the deck for the crew to access? Also need an opinion. I still have the pendants on the main mast with just thimbles. Would have been appropriate for there to be tackles mounted on the foremast and just thimbles on the main? Should I also change them out or display the different functions of the pendants by leaving them with thimbles only?
  16. Bill97
    I think this diagram in the older version of the Heller instructions was partially the cause of my screwup yesterday. After our discussion I looked back at this diagram I think as following yesterday. It incorrectly shows the pendants stacked on top the shrouds. Subassembly 37D and 37E are the pendants. Then it further appears to show the pendants coming down through the tree and on the outside of the shrouds. The newer instruction version does redefine those lines more correctly.
  17. Bill97
    Well tomorrow is a new day in a he ship yard. Will fix and cleanup all this screw-up! Thanks guys for your guidance. I am truly still learning so much each day, and I honestly appreciate it. This was simply a case of reading to much into the directions. So no pendants on top the shrouds. Now that I reread Anderson’s instructions with my knew knowledge it is clear what he is telling a builder to do.
  18. Bill97
    So Henry I think we are discussing this at the same time. So would you just remove the new pendants I wrongfully added on top the shrouds today? I could remove them, edge up the shrouds on the mast, and slip these tackles under the shrouds. Not sure which I like the best, the thimbles, or the tackles?
  19. Bill97
    Well Michael I think I am trying to do double work 🤔. Reading Anderson’s book page 92 he says the “ first thing to do is to fit the tackle pendants.” I knew them from building my Victory with thimbles. So I made them. Step 1. Then I hung the shrouds. Later in his book, page 102 he says “When the shrouds and stays have been set up it is time to fit the tackles.” The Heller instructions show two tackles and two empty pendants. I think I maybe foolishly viewed that as being a total of 4 tackle pendants per side of the mast. Two with thimbles and two with tackles attached with hooks to the channel. I am guessing that is not the case. Not sure I will remove them or not. I will have to think about what to do at the main mast. Marc and Henry it was a quick fix but now according to Michael I doubled up some work. Oh well no real harm doing extra work.
  20. Bill97
    You know guys I wondered that same thing and actually rigged them on the inside of the shrouds first but then after studying the instructions drawings thought maybe they belonged on the outside. I read through the section in Anderson’s book but could not come up with an answer. I was honking of asking you guys but thought you might say “well you dumb **** of course they go on the outside”. This will be an easy fix. Just loosen the rope, slip hook out of eyebolt and move block around the back. Twenty minutes tops. Should have checked in earlier cause now I have to move all four 😊. I attached a photo of one initially on the inside
  21. Bill97
    Completed the first burton tackle on the foremast. Used the thread size I used for the shrouds. Served the center section where it wraps around the mast. Used a 3 sheave block for the top of the tackle and a 2 sheave block with a hook for the bottom. Rigged the two blocks with running rigging (tan) thread and tied the fall at the nearest deadeye.
  22. Bill97
    Thanks Henry. In a zoomed in look at Heller’s diagram it looks as if it is tied off right above the upper block maybe? Is that what you see? Would you do it that way or your suggestion if above the nearest deadeye?
  23. Bill97
    Alright gentlemen I am now moving to the mast pendants. Numbers 96 and 97 for both the fore and mast. I am reading through pages 102-105 in Anderson’s book where he discusses these mast pendants. I can see in the Heller instructions that they are similar to a shroud pair. What I have yet to determine is where the hook on the end of lower block goes. There are a couple eyebolts in the channels behind the shroud deadeyes. Do they hook into them? What do I do with the guys? The photo from the old Heller instructions appears to show the hook placed in a he channel eyebolt.
  24. Bill97
    Looking great. Making me very anxious to open my kit.
  25. Bill97
    All of the lower ratlines tied to include the spritsail topmast. Now to add all the blocks that are to be tied to the shrouds for future rigging.

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