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Update and a change in plan, I decided after all to complete the main sail. Thinking about it, I thought whilst I was in the mood for sail making and undaunted by making 200 reef points I better get on with it, before I found excuses to avoid making further progress. This is probably the largest tissue sail I will ever make, so overall pleased with how it came out, but learned a lot more in the process of making this monster. Followed the same process as before:- paper template for shape and size, then construct the sail with a one piece core and strips glued front and back, with wire trapped in the edge for shaping later. I found using a rule helpful to fold the tissue in one piece around the wire as I went. The gluing the bolt rope along the edge to hide the wire; forming beckets etc. as I went. Reef points were actually split in two and glued separately to each face, rather than trying to tie knots flush to either face of the reef point hole to minimise handling the tissue paper -that entailed making nearly 400 of them! 😬 - but worth it not to risk trying to pull knots tight through fragile tissue! I did contemplate only adding one per. sail panel, but I knew someone would spot that and so took a deep breath and did two; have also punched in two per. panel for the robands when I get to those. Have now begun the process of adding the sail to the model. Starting with the mast hoops, so it will take it's own weight. the hoops are extras bought from Vanguard. A few shots below show the sail as it looks now, temporarily held in place with various bits of tape and temporary rigging held by clips to provide tension, but it gives an impression of the look I am aiming for eventually. Thanks for keeping me company with this experiment and the likes and kinds words! 😁

Welcome to MSW Graham. As Chris said the logs are a two way thing, so yes there are more Bounty and Victory related (and a few other old chestnuts that always crop up) logs than you can shake a stick at, but you are amongst friends who never bore of looking at the same thing! Not sure what that says about us 🤣 So please do a log if you have time. 👍

Understand Jay, we will be here for your updates when you have the time to sit and enjoy your free time again. Take care.

Congratulations Chris! Back to 1/33 aircraft territory, or is Phoenix getting dusted off?

Great job Tom, your sails look great, I can really appreciate the effort you have gone to get such good results on a square rig, adding sails to a Cutter is enough for me at the moment! As for the rat lines, yes I feel your pain and the dilemma, but as everything thing else is so great on your build, it would be a shame not to try and tackle them. 😑

Good job and advice from Craig. That has saved you a lot of bother later.

Welcome to MSW Mark!

For rigging of cannons I find this thread very helpful. https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21776-carriage-gun-rigging/ As for rope, one of our Sponsors and member of MSW do excellent rope look for sponsor banner for Ropes of Scale.

Yes, I added the bulwark patterns on my Trial without water. Just took my time, working from bow to stern. But if you feel there is too much spring and a risk of snapping, pre shaping them with water and leaving to dry is also a route many use.

Thanks @Ronald-V, @Keith Black, @Craigie65 & @FriedClams for your kind comments, glad you like the sails so far, I'm chickening out 🐔 on the last one (and largest) for now, but my excuse is if I rig the booms for the main sail now they are going to impede access to the deck for adding the crew! So I've been tidying up a few other jobs first, done work on the anchors and mounted these. With reference to Peter Goodwins "Alert" book I added seizing and whipping to the cable and also added a buoy with attached ropes and lanyard. I did contemplate lashing these to the shrouds, as is often seen in build logs, but looking through some contemporary Cutter models the buoys seem to have been stowed just as often with the anchor, either just inboard of the anchor (as I settled on) or used as a fender of sorts between the anchor and the hull. Anyway the advantage of having them on deck is they help make the deck look cluttered which I like and it partially hides my naff buoys from view; there not a patch on @Thukydides miniature masterpieces. 🤭 Not wanting to end on a downer, but had a slight mishap, I somehow - (I say "somehow" because I don't remember doing it!) I have caught a cannon and snapped off the end (pinged off into the ether as per. usual! 🙄) and also damaged the tip of a boom cradle. I really don't recall doing it! - Must be old age creeping on me! 😆 - Clumsy so and so.... Also might be away for a bit; back in hospital again this Friday, but hopefully soon out and back at the workbench. Thanks for looking in! 👋

You probably don't need to wet the bulwark pattern, but if you do allow it to dry in its new shape (there are plenty of build logs where people leave them to dry wrapped around a suitable round tin using rubber bands etc.) before gluing to the hull to allow it to shrink back to its original length. Your build will soon start looking like a ship! 😁

I just put in the terms “log” and “Venerable” and a date range 1750 a 1800 in the National Archive site and a few crop up. It will be quite the detective story to find out how Venerable looked at Camperdown. Just ask Gary about HMS Victory! One you would think would be well documented. Looking forward to his imminent book on the subject. Artist works though are not always completely inaccurate, so caveats aside, they are often all we have and the artist was sometimes guided by those who served in the battles depicted. An example being Richard Dodd who depicted Trafalgar and painted HMS Pickle under the guidance of Her commanding officer Lapenotiere. (about all we have to guide us on Pickle’s appearance as we have no plans). So another avenue might be to see if the artist of your reference painting had any connection with those who served and might have had some “guidance” on Venerable’s appearance. Good luck!

That’s brave surgery you have undertaken there Ron, but looks neat, will make the cabin look good.

Welcome to MSW Peter! from North Yorkshire Regarding your huge project - the Section for research in the link below might be the best place to ask. https://modelshipworld.com/forum/13-discussions-for-ships-plans-and-project-research-general-research-on-specific-vessels-and-ship-types/ I might have to come up and see that if people are allowed to visit

You have been busy Dave, now I know why you had gone quiet! 😂 Looks good, the natural variations in the wood stand out for now, but as you mention once fittings, armament and rope hanks start cluttering the deck, your eyes will not be drawn to that. One of the joys of making wood models is seeing the natural colours and patterns in the timber, I can see why some don’t use paint or add copper to their hulls.

Great progress Mike.

Nice detailing Rick.

Very tidy planking Dan!

Also looks good to me as well, the views along the deck can be deceptive in a picture, but if all the frames and supports are fully seated home before gluing then the frame should be square. As Craig says the camber of the deck from left to right also look correct.

Update for this week's progress, adding the topsail. This involved the usual process of paper template for testing the shape and size then constructing the sail as before. Then adding the rigging prior to mounting on the yard, this involved tying-off the the two yards so they would not move when adding the sail. Think next up is sorting the anchors and crew before adding the driver/gaff and main sail. Thanks for looking in and the likes. 😁

We shall watch out and see which you choose! 👍

Well done Dan, your Adder looks fantastic! So what is next on your VM fleet!? ⛵

Welcome to MSW!

Looks very smart Doug. 👏

That is a lovely looking Spit. Really nice to see a “clean” one that has not been weathered too much.