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Between travel, work, and some other projects, I haven't had much time for the build. I was able to get a bit of work done in the last few days, though. First, I added the throat halyard. While the mast-side double block for the halyard is already in place, I still needed to add the gaff-side single block. In hindsight, it may have been more accurate to use single blocks for both, as that arrangement shows up in most photos, while I followed the plan which has a double block. Fortunately, I did find a photo of a working lancha rigged with a double block on the throat halyard, so doing it this way is plausible. But it's still a good reminder to double-check everything, including the number of lines passing through each block, rather than just trusting plans. Then it was time to remove the mast and rigging, leaving everything still attached to the mast, to work on the rudder hinges. I tried to make a jig to get a tighter, more consistent bend on the rudder hinges, which are made of brass strip. I used some paint stir sticks that were made of a surprisingly hard wood, as well as some scrap and a thick steel sewing needle as a pin (held in holes in the top and bottom of the jig). The basic idea of the jig was to place the brass strip centered at the pin and to press the notched wood against it, shaping it around the pin. Unfortunately, the jig didn't work very well. The brass strip--even after heating it red-hot, and using the very thin strip that I used to make the chainplates--just didn't take very tight bends with the jig. Instead, I ended up just bending the hinges by hand. With a lot of care, I got them a good bit smaller than those on the Canoa de Rancho. (Unfortunately I forgot to take photos). Photos like the one below show that Lanchas used a single long pin threaded through all the hinges, although my build follows other examples in having two rather than three hinge pairs and in using hinges rather than eyebolts on the hull side. Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/luchinmardones/5312311416/ After cleaning and priming the hinges, it was time to attach them and hang the rudder. I began by gluing the hull-side hinges in place, using a brass rod to ensure they were lined up properly. I then looped the rudder-side hinges around the rod, slid them into place, and dry fit the rudder. I found that my efforts to make small hinges seemed to have paid off--if anything they were too small, and there wasn't enough space between the rod and the transom/sternpost to fit the rudder hinges. I decided that the best way to deal with this was to carefully cut a little divot where the hinges will go so they have space, as seen below. The divots were then painted to match the hull, becoming nearly imperceptible. It was then time to glue the rudder-side hinges in place. In order to make sure they were properly positioned, I glued the bottom hinge in the correct location off the hull, then hung the rudder, threading it on the rod, to get the top hinge in place. This was quite difficult, as there was very little space even with the divots. In order to add superglue to the inside of the top hinge, I had to tilt the rudder back, but after gluing the top hinge I found that this had popped the lower hinge loose from the rudder, so I had to carefully re-glue it. After some frustrating minutes, though, it worked out. I then removed the rod and painted and weathered the rudder-side hinges, below. I also made the long rudder pin with a length of brass rod that I put a small loop into one end of, and then primed and painted that. At this point, I was ready to finally hang the rudder. I lined it up and began to pass the pin through the hinges. Of course, the added paint made the pin thicker than it was before, and it got stuck. When I pushed it down a little harder, the top hinge popped off the hull, as can be seen (kinda) below. At this point I remembered that I should have scraped the paint off the gluing surface for a better hold... Finally, I was able to re-glue the hinge and to touch up the paint. The rudder is now in place! It does rotate about 45 degrees to each side, although it's pretty stiff. Overall I'm much happier with how these hinges turned out than I was with the Canoa de Rancho's hinges, but I clearly still have a lot to learn. Hats off to those of you who can make nice hinges and otherwise do great metalwork! While I had been hoping to have this finished for the NRG photo competition, I've taken on some other projects and don't think it will be ready in time (at least not with sails...). That said, I've been really enjoying getting into other sorts of woodworking. I'm nearly done making a ring box, below, from cherry, walnut, and maple. It's interesting how even a small box like this changes your perspective. While I previously considered anything over 1/8‐inch to be thick wood, that's really quite thin for this sort of work. Getting things perfectly square is also much harder than I thought (especially with limited tools). These sorts of projects are really challenging me, but I'm learning an entirely different style of woodworking from what I do with models. It's very fun, even if every project takes a lot longer than I think it will.
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Excellent work on the whaleboats! I have to ask, how were they made? Are they plank on mold, hollow lifts, or some other method? They look very convincing.
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Sorry to hear about the build. I definitely found some aspects of this model to be a little frustrating, especially that fairing the hull took so much sanding. For whatever it's worth, if you decide to pick it up again in the future, I found it helpful to use the markings on the tape more as a rough guide to cut out an oversized plank beyond the lines, and then to sand the plank, with numerous test fittings, until it fit well against the previous plank.
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Excellent information, @Dee_Dee, and your build log on this subject is very interesting--great model! There are a number of differences between the Model Shipways kit and the Chapelle plans. The shrouds are one--I assume they were added to make the kit more of a learning experience for new builders, but they're really more appropriate for a Friendship Sloop. I was also intrigued by Chapelle's statement that most of the centerboard Muscongus Bay sloops were lapstrake planked (although his plan is based in part on a hulk that was carvel-planked), something I haven't seen represented by any model.
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I haven't yet figured out the cant frames, and still need to find longer bolts for the jig, but I've made progress in another area. After some consideration, I decided to buy a small, rechargeable rototool similar to the one @Glen McGuirementioned. I was able to get it going today and found it to be extremely useful. While I previously could sand one part in about 30 minutes, I can now sand ten or more in that time. The parts will still need a final sanding by hand for smoothness, but this still significantly sped up what has to be one of the most tedious parts of modeling. For that, I'm very happy. The tool itself is very simple--you press the power button to cycle through 5 speeds or hold it down to turn it off--and I can see some ways it could be better. It gets a little warm after extended use, which is a good sign to take a break, and the button placement at the back end makes it slightly awkward to turn it off while using. It's definitely not very powerful, although that's not really a problem for what I've been doing--I would hate to accidentally over-sand and ruin a piece. So far I've only used the sanding drum, but it comes with a number of other parts as well. I'm curious to see how the mini saw blade works, although I doubt it will work very well on anything but the thinnest wood. I'm also thinking about making some sort of stand from mdf or something to better hold it steady for a consistent sanding angle. All told, there are certainly much better tools out there, and for all I know this one's going to break tomorrow, but for about 14 dollars, I'm quite happy with what I got and it's already helping quite a bit with this project.
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I think the Internet Archive's borrowing period is just for an hour, so it might be available again soon. Beyond the plan, the written description on the accompanying pages can be useful as well. While you can certainly go for it, this may be a bit of a tricky hull to plank given the overhanging stern. I suspect that the kit planks are not quite to scale in terms of width--you may be able to count planks from a photo to figure out the proper width. If you're going the tapered strip route, instead of cutting spiled planks directly from a wider sheet, you'd probably need thinner strips than the kit includes anyway in order to better edge bend them. Looking forward to seeing how you decide to go about it!
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Looking forward to following along! If you're looking for inspiration, I'd second the recommendation to have a look at the relevant section of Chapelle. Another potential source would be to look for old photos. While I haven't found many of the Muscongus Bay centerboard sloop, there are quite a few photos of Friendship Sloops, which were deeper-hulled but otherwise quite similar vessels. There are a lot of photos of these--mostly as yachts, but a few as fishing vessels--here, for example: https://penobscotmarinemuseum.historyit.com/search-interfaces/search/digital-collection/0/1/1/1?rq[0]=8639&ip=1
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Excellent job, it turned out really well! I've been very happy with the rope I've bought from Ropes of Scale, they have a wide range of colors and sizes. I've used it for my Canoa de Rancho and Lancha Chilota builds (although I haven't yet rigged the latter). I've also bought rope from Syren Ship Model Co., which looks to be excellent as well, although I haven't had a chance to use it yet.
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Thanks, I never would have thought of it on my own. This site is such an excellent resource, I'm amazed by the ingenuity that so many display and very grateful to those who take the time to share their methods.
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Thanks, @Jim Lad! A little more progress. I wasn't thrilled with how my flat brass strip thimbles turned out, as they don't have any sort of groove and thus don't really look right. Searching for ideas that could be done with the tools and materials I already have, I saw this post about making thimbles from doubled wire: I thought it was worth a try. It was very simple. First, you fold and double up a little bit of wire: Then you roll it into a loop, trim it, and add a drop of superglue to secure it. The doubled wire creates a small groove. Then it's a simple matter of painting it (note: you'd need to solder if you're planning on blackening rather than painting). The groove is subtle, and its not a huge difference, but I think it was worth it. The thimbles will be stored for now, to be added to the stay and shrouds once I know how long they need to be taking the turnbuckles and hooks into account. Besides that, I also added the peak halyard block (no photos as it's the same process as previous blocks). I also added temporary rigging with a bit of sewing thread to the peak halyard and jib halyard. It's not remotely in scale, but it helps me get a better sense of how the final rigging will go, while also keeping everything together. Meanwhile, I'm procrastinating on making the rudder hinges. I had trouble with these on the Canoa de Rancho build, and in hindsight wish I had gotten less space between the rudder and transom. Making those tight turns in the brass strip is still tricky for me. I should probably try making a simple jig with scrap wood and tiny nails or something...
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Very cool! I have vague memories of having seen the Alma over a decade ago, although at the time my interest was more drawn to the larger ships in the museum. What a missed opportunity! Noting the curved sides of this model, I feel like it looks a little less like the Alma, which has very straight sides, and a bit closer to the Robbie Hunter, plans of which are in Chapelle's National Watercraft Collection book. Although I don't know how the scale would match up. Another source you may want to look into is Roger Olmstead's "Scow Schooners of San Francisco Bay". It may be available as an interlibrary loan. I know there are a few articles on scow schooners available from the Nautical Research Journal, too.
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Thanks, all! It's great to know that I inadvertently made something more accurate than I thought, how often does THAT happen?
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