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Most of the book is just fine. But the author found plans of beautiful, but unusual, schooner taken off in a Maltese {?} dockyard, and claimed that those were of the uS Navy's Schooner Enterprise, which repaired there in 1804. I, and most others, think he was wrong. But his evidence is interesting, nevertheless, and it was only one chapter. I think the book is well worth the price. Geoffrey Footer is a well-known, trusted historian and author.
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Bonjour Français! Je préfère 'La Tourterelle' non seulement parce qu'elle était l'une des plus belles corvettes de l'époque, plus encore que l'Unite, mais aussi parce qu'elle a combattu avec bravoure une frégate britannique bien supérieure en puissance et n'a capitulé qu'après son naufrage. Je trouve aussi son nom (the Turtledove) inhabituel pour un navire de guerre ! (I prefer La Tourterelle not only because she was one of the most beautiful corvettes of the era, even more so than the Unite, but she fought very bravely against a british frigate that was much superior to her in force, and did not surrender until she was wrecked. I also think her name, Turtledove, is unusual for a man of war.)
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So this looks like the film's ex-HMS Rose/Surprise ...? Edit: I should add that this model looks really cool. Wow, what a scale! This gives a modeler the opportunity to put in a lot of extra details, should they choose. So, kudos to AL on this one. Personally, I'm more of an Admiralty draught purist, but that's my problem ...
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Back in the 1970s, my father received a free, gift puzzle in the mail. The subject was a winter picture of his own Tunbridge, Vermont farm, with a note that said your property is beautiful, and so here is your free copy of our latest Whitman Puzzle! He didn't mind, but nobody ever asked permission. Someone just stopped their car and snapped a photo, and voila, fame! Here's a copy on eBay: EDIT: It sold. Hopefully one of y'all bought it ... https://www.ebay.com/itm/236270262081?_skw=tunbridge+vermont+puzzle&itmmeta=01K56ZAP5ZQ4M0P46TK1N44KE0&hash=item3702ce1741%3Ag%3ATvUAAOSwdnZoUY8o&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dglLuI%2F3p256r4hnFa962vnH3XhW4t3wiFyqscblYMzHLLQA%2FxKr2vx1U0kU8isKTxa%2BK%2BIhzhzLqT8WAEWYNtVDgTCecwVzStSch2bUuYGzsYdnFIqCH7AGf7XUDvIsHxjVwDfhcIGnp9QrMfReH1qrGaA9sAuc%2Bp1IWYJ3Rv9HDiwB42dj%2BVGbDWulSybuD7BS9PFQetjfzxA2--0xkuoy37eVu9DfetfjtGYm9a2gbTYvmzP9Ay7%2F%2BUMYPacdFZ2Eyme%2FEG6cFAoEn8%2FCeSLEoXlkSddniU%2FOkOe2sb0A%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBMkuOq36lm&LH_ItemCondition=3000
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Further accessories: 🤣 Figures: Killick carrying a tray of toasted cheese. Padeen with a bad tooth in a head bandage, stealing a bottle of laudanum. Midshipman Hollum holding a cannonball. The Twins Sarah and Emily. Maturin's Lemur, sipping rum from a pewter dish. Optional "Wet Maturin", having fallen from the cutter, again. Midshipman William Babbington, with Admiral Harte's daughter. Joe Plaice spinning yarns, scaring the ship's boys. Barret Bondon with a telescope, being ever vigilant. Awkard Davies with a spittle of drool, and a cutlass. Captain Howard of the Marines with a musket and an Albatros. Optional "Wounded Maturin", shot by the above Howard. Sir Joseph Blaine, with a beetle display cabinet. Wray and Ledward, a two figure set with card table. Optional "Vengeful Maturin", holding a scaple and Ledward's spleen. "Portsmouth Brutes". Items: Aubrey's two private brass nine-pounders. "The Thing", Diana's all-in-one custom piece of furniture, wrapped in blankets and placed in the hold. The deception-raft from the film. A 36-gun ship's mainmast.
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I've had that book for decades and I love it. Sadly, the zebra muscles are slowly covering the wrecks. (Thank you foreign tankers dumping your Asian-water-ballast.) For that reason, they should be raised and preserved a la Vasa. Can you image the clothing, possessions and paperwork still preserved in the officers sea-chests? Thank you for the review.
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The French method was fine for French purposes at the time, i.e., dashing quickly out of Brest and racing to Martinique or La Reunion, etc., with cargo, and then speeding home. The British needed stronger vessels, as they were constantly at sea on blockade duty, often not dropping anchor for months at a time. Without knees, the unaltered ex-French ships would work themselves to pieces on blockade.
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To save weight, the French did not use lodging knees, but instead dove-tailed the beam ends into larger than normal clamps. As soon as the captured ship went into the dockyard for a major repair, the British shipwrights would have added them with smaller clamps. L'Unite was taken without a fight, so there was no need for an upper-works rebuilding, unless she was already rotten. Will there be a main-deck, long-gun option, preferably with French pattern 8-pounders, for us Tourterelle-loving Francophiles?
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