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During a dinner party discussion concerning Bentinck Shrouds, in the novel, "The Commodore", the podcasters graciously acknowledge MSW members, for their early support of its now three-year long weekly podcast. 
 
I listen to them on YouTube, although there are other platforms. This episode is five months old, so I'm not up to date. Skip to 10:38 to hear their acknowledgment:
 
 
 
 

Just got this book. Fantastic!

as I said before, I chose not to paint the decorations but to carve them into bas-reliefs, even though it does not conform to the real ship:




 

I have a small update on Portland, I’ve been designing a QG for 3D print, this is just an initial test to check rigidity of the structure and if it’s even possible.


The QG will fit onto existing wood structure and should require a slight bit of finesse to attach to the hull. 

The basic structure and shape of the QG will be printed, once painted the moldings, columns, windows and carvings will all be in wood, so the finished QG should be very convincing. 
 
The model requires some revision but the basic idea looks promising so far.

Thank you to @Gabek for his expertise and print assistance.
 
JJ

There are a couple of similar ship-rigged, merchant-vessel plans from the 1770's (you can probably count them on one hand) in Howard Chapelle's "The Search For Speed Under Sail". They were taken into the Royal Navy as ad hoc sloops of war. If you see one you like, you can order copies from the Smithsonian Institution for next to nothing.

There are a couple of similar ship-rigged, merchant-vessel plans from the 1770's (you can probably count them on one hand) in Howard Chapelle's "The Search For Speed Under Sail". They were taken into the Royal Navy as ad hoc sloops of war. If you see one you like, you can order copies from the Smithsonian Institution for next to nothing.

Got an email update. Looks like it will be delayed until about the first of the year. Oh well. It's the new post-covid publishing normal.
 
Curious. Seawatch graciously included a chapter sample. But it was about a 60 gun ship. I thought volume three was going to be about "cruisers", i.e., frigates like the Shannon, not necessarily fourth rates. 
 
 

Re. the picture in post #43:
I don't see it as Hahn style so much as I see it as derisive parody of POF. 
It could be trying to be a kitsch decorator simulacrum of a ship model or a cynical attempt to destroy the reputation of all POF.
Whatever it is, that is not POF.
 

Looks in many ways like a Harold Hahn style of framing without the inner works and details.   

Research for a model often becomes historical research and a pleasure in its own right. This happened for me with the schooner HMS Whiting, built in Bermuda in 1805, which according to Wikipedia was captured twice in 1812 when her history comes to a halt. I had a lucky discovery with a commentary on a legal case that linked Whiting to her new identity as a privateer in the service of the nascent Republic of Cartagena. Her new name and captain's name opened other routes for research which takes her intriguing story to the beginning of 1814. The 1805 Club published my paper on this topic in its journal The Trafalgar Chronicle. I have attached a copy. 
 
George
 
HMS Whiting as San Francisco de Paula.pdf
 

Got an email update. Looks like it will be delayed until about the first of the year. Oh well. It's the new post-covid publishing normal.
 
Curious. Seawatch graciously included a chapter sample. But it was about a 60 gun ship. I thought volume three was going to be about "cruisers", i.e., frigates like the Shannon, not necessarily fourth rates. 
 
 

Got an email update. Looks like it will be delayed until about the first of the year. Oh well. It's the new post-covid publishing normal.
 
Curious. Seawatch graciously included a chapter sample. But it was about a 60 gun ship. I thought volume three was going to be about "cruisers", i.e., frigates like the Shannon, not necessarily fourth rates. 
 
 

The desire is there too, to build a Vic in a standard scale, like 1/64th. Model companies do come up with some oddball scales ...

The desire is there too, to build a Vic in a standard scale, like 1/64th. Model companies do come up with some oddball scales ...

The desire is there too, to build a Vic in a standard scale, like 1/64th. Model companies do come up with some oddball scales ...

Great idea if it can be done, but there are so many Victory models and kits.  I like that Vanguard comes out with ships that have not been built by the thousands and are of very high quality compared to many of their competitors.   
Allan   

Hello,
 
The monograph of "L'Invention" has only been published for 6 months, there is still no model to my knowledge.
The prototype models which are detailed in photos in my monographs are of course finished after publication. But, for "L'Invention" and "L'Egyptienne", there is no prototype model. The model by Greg will therefore be the first whose construction will be published.
For "L'Egyptienne", there are several models under construction by members of my forum, including this one made with great talent:
https://5500.forumactif.org/t3726-l-egyptienne-au-1-48-mes-debuts-en-arsenal
 
GD

I can not explain how devastated I am to be announcing this.  My dear and close friend Jim Byrnes has passed away way too soon.   Many have you know and have met Jim.  He was a fantastic guy and true original.   Many of you own his tools which are second to none in the hobby.    I have been speaking with his wife Donna who many of you also know.  Jim was diagnosed with ALS in February.  ALS is a nasty disease and there is no cure.  Jim had a particularly aggressive type of ALS and he passed away last month in October.  He was just 64 years old.
 
This news will be devastating to many...but Donna has asked if everyone would have patience and give here and their family time to grieve.  As you might expect,  the business will continue to be shut down,  but will reopen at some time in the near future.  Donna will continue supporting the hobby and their customers when the time is right.   But please have patience and allow the family to grieve at this sad time.  Donna will let me know when the shop will reopen.  I will make an announcement at that time.  
 
I am so devastated by this...I just spoke to him not too long ago and it breaks my heart.  His obituary is below.
 
Jim is survived by his wife, Donna; son, James William (Krystal) and grandchildren Julian and Sloane; brother, Peter (Cindy) Byrnes and sisters, Mary (James) Hayman, Catherine Byrnes, Veronica Byrnes and Elaine Byrnes (Robert Campbell); brother-in-law, Eddie (Marcia) Grissom; brother-in-law, Frank Marzovilla, and many cherished nieces and nephews. Not to be forgotten is his beloved English Springer Spaniel, Becky, who is waiting every day for him to come home to her!

He was preceded in death by his parents, James and Lorraine Byrnes; brother, Robert Byrnes; nephew, Michael Byrnes; brother-in-law, Pete Stuffer; and mother-in-law, Opal Grissom.

Along with restoring vintage cars, from a very young age Jim had a true passion for model ship-building. For many years he had done extensive research on the U.S.S. Constitution and was in the final phase of completing his scratch build of the Constitution as it was originally launched in 1797. Following a career of working with Defense contract companies, Jim worked many years with and became a partner with Conceptual Engineering in Sanford FL. In 2002 Jim and Donna formed Model Machines LLC. Jim designed and developed small modeler’s machines that are now purchased worldwide and used in many high school and college machine shops and in museums for their restorations. There have been numerous reviews and articles written about Jim which were published in various modelers’ magazines. Modelers using Jim’s machines range from ship, railroad, doll houses, doll house furniture, pen turners, segmented bowls and architects. In recent years guitar, harp and violin makers were added to this list. Jim was a remarkable craftsman and had many more machines in development stage for modelers. He was always ready to help and mentor others, many of whom soon became his very close friends.

 Jim was also a member of the Nautical Research Guild and attended conferences throughout the U.S. for 20 years, developing many close friendships within this organization.

Jim was a humble, quiet man who was deeply loved and will be missed by so many. Our hearts, as a family, are broken. Thru this profound loss, if we can ask one thing from this place of despair, it would be to embrace your loved ones every chance you get.
 
 

The 1813 Lake Ontario wrecks of the USS Hamilton and Scourge show the sweeps stored on the chains/channels. They also show those keyhole openings on the bulwarks of Hamilton. (Scourge had open bulwarks.) Providence had crane-irons built on the poop deck sides just to hold sweeps. HMS Reindeer (a big 400 ton Cruiser Class brig) used sweeps in 1814 to try and weather the USS Wasp. 

I imagine many of the members have already seen the videos and know the story how she was sunk by the British in 1708,  but for those who have not, this is an incredible find, worth billions of Euros/dollars in gold, silver, gems and relics.   In looking at the video, there looks to be some interesting things regarding Spanish ships of the San Jose era.   One that jumped out at me is the cannon.  There is no cascabel but rather an ornate loop.  Time mark 1:08, 1:46, and 2:20  show these very clearly.
Allan
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/colombia-holy-grail-of-shipwrecks-20-billion-treasure

Lots of cat memes and funny sign photos to prune for copyright infringements and yada yada...
 
Over 150,000 posts of "what folks had for dinner" and "Old guy parking quirks"
 
This may take a while.   In the meanwhile....direct your attention to the other forum areas dedicated to the wonderful world of ship modeling!!!
 
AND please.....do not post one Minion meme in any of the other areas.....wink wink....you know who you are...resist the urge.
 
And yes we still do have a Nautical General discussion forum that should fit your needs for most other stuff other than topics about "those old jokes" and the likes.
 
 

Morgan, I notice that in your photo of the Victory, post #29, previous page, there appears to be thin netting woven over the shot to keep it in the rack? Was this the contemporary practice, or is it a modern, anti-idiot-tourist device?

You have to look twice, you’ve made the same initial assumption that I did.  
 
There are in fact three swivels mounted on a rail at the break of the Poop, it was shot away at Trafalgar and subsequently reinstated.  The Victory’s Marines were initially drawn up on the Poop, so it makes sense to have them close to the Marines. Nelson wouldn’t have Marines in the tops due to risk of fire to sails.
 
Gary

RE: the Turner 1806 sketch: A pair of guns on the poop deck?

RE: the Turner 1806 sketch: A pair of guns on the poop deck?