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● Planking the Counter: After test fitting the first layer of planking using a 1/8" x 1/6" basswood strip I could see that it was too thin and would not allow the second layer to sit flush with bulkhead "ZZ". The fix was to place a 1/32" balsa shim below the first layer of planking. The shims were glued to the stern frames that were added earlier.
The second layer was done in boxwood.
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Hello everyone,
Welcome to my build log of the Model Shipways "Mayflower". For those who have been following my build of the US Brig Syren, I have decided not to build it at this time. These two models require a similar level of experience yet have their own set of challenges. I have decided to build the Mayflower for those challenges that I feel are more to my level of experience. Chuck has done a superb job with the Mayflower instructions and there are some excellent build logs here on MSW. I would appreciate any help or suggestions that you might have as I move along.
● Clamp setup for first bulkhead: Hours after removing the bulkhead former from the sheet I noticed that it was curved but not warped. After all the bulkheads are glued in place I will attempt to straighten the former.
● Clamp setup for remaining bulkheads:
● Bulkheads and filler pieces glued into the bulkhead former: The initial fit was generally tight. When fitting the bullheads I allowed for the PVA glue swelling the wood by sanding in a very small amount of bulkhead movement past 90° fore and aft.
● Curved bulkhead former before straightening:
Straightening was achieved aft of bulkhead "A" in three steps.
1. Blocks were inserted between the formers A&B and C&D to prevent this area of the hull from moving while attaching the "dummy cannon support strips".
2. These support strips were used to straighten 90% of the curve by pulling the hull straight and pinning the strips in place before gluing.
3. Blocks were inserted between bulkheads 3 and 3b in order to correct the remaining curve in this area.
Straightened hull
● Eye bolt: This was formed using a 1/8" dowel and then compressing its shape into an oval. Photo shows eye bolt temporarily in place before priming and painting the inside of the two "fore mast Fillers" and eye bolt black with Badger 16-01 Engine Black. Testors Dull coat was used to flatten the finish.
● Gun Port Framing: I will be using boxwood as the primary wood for the model. Although the gun port framing will not be seen I wanted to see what it was like to work with. No complaints at all and I really like getting clean crisp edges easily. After the bottom gun port frame was glued into place a 1/4" balsa sheet, of a consistent thickness, was cut into small filler pieces to maintain an equal distance between the two gun port frames while the top frames were being glued. Later, this greatly eased the process of making the small vertical pieces for the ports. I have no idea why the small block between C&D was there so I removed it after the photo was taken.
I made a test piece for the vertical frames to see if the angles were similar for both the top and bottom. It turns out that they were at approximately 10.5°. All I had to do was cut one angle with the help of the disk sander and then measure 1/4" and cut the other in parallel. Very little sanding was needed to achieve a nice fit. Were the gun ports angle upwards at the bow and stern a slight angle was sanded in the opposing direction to account for the tilt of the vertical strip.
After the stern pieces XX, YY and ZZ were glued in, the hull was faired and the four false decks were glued into position. Once dry they were later faired into the hull shape.
- CaptainSteve, Mike Y, yvesvidal and 5 others
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Michael,
Thank you for your very kind comments. It's very gratifying to see experienced modeler's like yourself taking time to view my build log.
Mike
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Jack, I believe you have found a way to do it. You're right that it might be more time consuming unless doing many of them. Still, I will pick up the bit to see how well it cuts. Funny how CS at Dremel told me they didn't have a bit that would do it.
This is the #654 bit
Michael, I will try the file way as well.
Thanks, Mike
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My original question was about cutting half lap joints. Do you think that the Dremel Shaper Table could be setup to do something similar to this video using a saw blade or cutoff wheel?
http://www.woodsmith.com/magazine/extras/167/mitered-half-lap-joints/
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Jack,
I called Dremel and they do not sell Rabbet bits. I'm wondering if I would be better off getting a hobby saw, though I'm not sure which one. The Byrnes is perhaps too expensive. I would prefer not doing it by hand.
Mike
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Bob, Thanks! I am still following your Longboat log. I love what you have done with it so far. No doubt, it will be a beauty when finished.
Mike
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Hi Thomas,
For the second time I'm seeing your absolutely gorgeous build of the Syren. No doubt there will be a third. I just wanted to point out that there might be some photos that are not linked on page 10.
Mike
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What Chuck suggests about the mix ratio is what I did on the Longboat. I used 1pt golden oak to 3pts natural and it reduced the blotchy appearance a lot. 20/80 would be better still.
Mike
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My next build, the US Brig Syren, should arrive sometime this week. There will be some interesting challenges ahead for sure. Again, thank you all for your support and taking the time to visit and comment on my first build.
Mike
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SpyGlass>>> Well, that's an interesting approach with a nice result
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Druxey>>> I'm certainly willing to try. What would be a good brand of chisel? As of now I don't have any.
Jud>>> I will give that a try
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Now that I'm looking at it I don't think it will work. The strip wood would have to be held 90 degrees for an end cut.
Mike
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Hello,
Does anyone know what these Model Shipways' Syren colors, hull/spar black and bright red would be in either Model Masters, Floquil or any other good quality acrylic paint that is still available? I realize that floquil is no longer in business but some colors are still available online.
Thanks, Mike
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Hi Gary,
I'm about to start the Fair American by MS myself very soon. Your doing a really nice job on her. Your log is very informative and I have enjoyed reading it as well.
Regards, Mike
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My finished Longboat, a very rewarding and humbling experience.
A big thank you to everyone for all your support over the past eight months. You have kept me going when I was seriously in doubt. I know that this wonderful group of people here on MSW will help me to move forward and I look forward to sharing thoughts and ideas with other members in the future.
Now, if I could only decide on what to build next?
- phyla, Mike Y, Pete Jaquith and 10 others
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Mayflower by Stuntflyer (Mike) - Model Shipways - 5/32" Scale
in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1501 - 1750
Posted · Edited by Stuntflyer
Marking the initial plank position with the bulwark template gave me a better idea of where the upper plank runs would be located. Some additional fairing of the hull was needed in order to get the planks running without dips and rises. Once one side of the hull was faired I made bulkhead profile templates from card stock. Holding the card templates up against a window I was able to trace the profiles onto the other side of the card stock. I used these tracings to match the bulkhead profiles from the faired side. Once both sides were symmetrical I checked the plank run once more to confirmed that all was good for attaching the 2 initial planks.
● Setting Initial planks: The bulwark template was used to mark the bulkheads for the location of the initial planks before they were glued into place. For these 2 planks I found it easier to form its shape by soaking in water for 5 minutes and clamping them to the hull. I used a hair dryer on its high setting to dry them.
The photos below show the plank run along the bulwark template and then with the template removed.