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I'm building out the deck furniture on Unite as refit by the British dockyard 1797. The plans call for steam gratings above the stove. Every other grating is marked as just grating on the plans. I can't seem to find if there was a difference or not in construction between steam gratings and regular cargo gratings. Does anybody know the answer? Thanks. Richard
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Real knots verses what is practical for scale ships
barkeater replied to Srenner's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I do try to get it tight. Do 1 knot, check the tension and then add the second and if still happy the third. An overhand knot can be undone fairly easily if you need to adjust. You want the knot as tight as you can when you finish up and then lock the knot in with the glue. I do 1/48 scale. Richard -
Real knots verses what is practical for scale ships
barkeater replied to Srenner's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
One of the problems you have to consider is the thickness of the knot itself. You want a low profile to better approximate the real thing. You also want to avoid pulling on the line as you tie. This can be a real problem when you are dealing with a ship which has a lot of rigging. You also want something simple and easy for those tight spots. I tie three overhand knots with thin thread of the appropriate color and place them against one another as if I was rapping the line to simulate the seizing. You can adjust this knot for tension if needed as you counterbalance with its opposite line if it is a starboard/port configuration or standing rigging on the center line. I then make sure it is tight and hit the knot with a tiny amount of thinned pva (wood glue) to lock it in. The glue can't be seen once it dries. Richard -
I have a MM scroll saw and table saw as well as a Byrnes thickness sander and a Proxxon mini lathe. The scroll saw is fine. You have to go slow but you want to go slow when cutting irregular shaped pieces. The table saw is ok as long as I don't cut anything over about 1/4 inch. (Note: I do use a lot of very dense wood.) I'd love a Byrne's table saw and I might upgrade for the next build when I have a lot of lumber to cut for the hull. The thickness sander is great. On my current build I ripped planks of ebony for the wales before I had it and did not realize that the board I was cutting from was not of uniform thickness which caused the planks to have different widths along their length. Unfortunately, I did not realize it until I was on the third of six courses. It was a pain to wind up with an even wale but it came out fine. With the Byrne's now I can even out any board and avoid this dilemma. Just used it to taper my keel from head to foot. The lathe I just got and have not had a chance to use it yet. Good luck with your scratch build. Richard
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Your post asked for minimum tools for scratch build. Like most other scratch builders, I use a lot of hand tools so micro files, scalpels, sandpaper, miter saw and box, and different picks and scrapers are what I use most. I'm not a big fan of rotary tools such as a Dremel as I feel I have more control with hand tools. The one power tool that you use most for scratch building is a scroll saw. If you want to rip your own planks rather than use commercially available wood strips, then you need a table saw. A lathe is not necessary. A mill or thickness sander is also nice, but the scroll saw, and table saw are what you are going to get the most use out of. Richard
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I have had the same problem. It has shied me away from some suppliers who are out of line in their shipping.
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I have done all my masts and yards by hand so far. If you taper down to size by squaring it with a file, then make it eight sided this works quicker than sanding alone. Sand when you are done with filing to round it out. Just remember to keep checking with calipers. Even if you use a lathe, there are portions of masts and yards which need to be done by hand. Having said this, I recently acquired a lathe which I hope will speed up the work. Richard
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I'm not familiar with your kit but II built the Alert by Mamoli which was a cutter with a 360-degree rotating canon midship. If I remember correctly, it was a 4 pounder but had no special name. If you look, I'm sure you can find pictures of the Alert in the gallery to see if what you have matches. Richard
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Hairy/fuzzy rigging thread
barkeater replied to The Gimps Chimp's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I have used bow string wax which is used for target or hunting bows. I don't know the ph or if there are long term issues, but it is easier to use than bees wax and it works well. It comes in a container like chapstick or lip gloss. -
I'm building the U'nite 1797 as refit by the British. She was a captured French vessel. I have both the "as taken" and "as refit" plans. The dockyard removed a hog back cabin and railings on the weather deck and replaced the railings which shows in the refit drawings. My question concerns the Phrygian cap and bundled sticks on the stern. Since these are symbols of the French revolution would the dockyard have removed them? The refit drawings do not show the stern. It would have been a great ruse de guerre. I also don't know what I would replace them with since I would like to keep the same approximate size. Do I go with what I know was there before the refit or make something up? I'll probably go with the Phrygian cap and bundle but I would be interested in opinions. Thanks. Richard
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Congratulations and nicely done. I enjoyed following your log.
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This makes it 4 for down.
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Very nice. The thing about model ship building is that there are so many different tasks. Just when you've got planking down it's time for something completely different like rigging.🙂
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Dave, Hopefully those brass rings look like eye bolts otherwise you are going to have problems😁. You are correct, superglue (cyanoacrylate) is what you want to use gluing metal. As to breakage, I've never had a problem with kit supplied rings/ eye bolts. They may bend but unless you really use a lot of force, I can't see them breaking. For scratch building I use silver wire which is stronger than craft wire. Richard
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Bill The picture of the stock sheet you show is a pretty standard top which you should be able to copy. There are a lot of books on rigging if you can't find what you want for free by search. Rigging: Period Ship Models by Lennarth Petersson shows a similar top and is on Amazon in a kindle version for $11.99 ($36.70 for hardcover). There are a lot of books on rigging so look around, but I believe you could use this one to make the top you show, and it is relatively cheap. It is also a good book for other rigging details in a general fashion but does not go into changes in masting and rigging over time as some of the more voluminous and scholarly works do. Again, look around and see what you feel would be most helpful to you. Richard
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Welcome to MSW and enjoy. I'm a little quicker on building models but not much as I'm coming up on 4 years on my current build with years to go.
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Why masts are square at the top?
barkeater replied to Tommy Vercetti's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Tommy, As Mark noted masts are quite a wide topic and different masts and yards show different shapes. They also changed over time. If your question is in regard to mast caps, the following illustration from Petersson's "Rigging Period Ship Models" may be helpful. Here the main mast is squared off to sit into the mast cap. The top mast is first square to sit on the trestle tree, then becomes octagonal before being rounded off to fit through the mast cap. Richard -
Painting them black would give you more contrast and help them stand out. Just a thought. Richard
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I use 5x glasses. I paid about $10 on Amazon. I like these compared to magnifying lamps because I can change my field of view without having to move the lamp. Richard
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