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Glad you're back.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

In the Gallery:   Catboat,   International-Dragon-Class,   Spray

Posted

Glad to see you back working on this next model. What material did you use as a base over the wooden mold before the application of the putty?

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

Posted

Gosh,I haven't been around all that much lately Patrick,sorry to here of your stones,but glad to hear they are history and your back in the swing of things :)

I shall be following your progress with something a little different to your other subjects ;)

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

Posted

Hi Nigel, Bob, Michael and Ben

 

Many thanks for all of your comments and for those who hit the Like button as well.

 

Michael-thanks for your question. The hull material is Evergreen styrene sheet, which is light, thin and seems perfect for the job. Hope this helps.

 

Nigel-welcome aboard and thanks for your well wishes, too.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Posted

Welcome back mate. It's so good to see your log again after a "wee" break. Sorry Patrick, couldn't help myself with that pun.

I will look forward to see you turn the last photo into a piece of art!

Haveagreatone

Greg

"Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! "

 

Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:...

 

Posted
Posted

G'day Patrick

At this stage she's a beauty. Hope that you're using a mask when you're sanding mate! For safety reasons.

Havagooday

Greg

A mask??? Ugh, hadn't thought of that, but you're right....but then again, apparently bacon and sausages is supposed to cause cancer now.

 

Next thing they'll be telling us that breathing air causes cancer. Oh wait, they've already done that!

 

Thanks Greg, I jest of course, but I know you're right. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

Cheers and all the best

 

Patrick

Posted

Hi Patrick

 

Glad to see you back at the bench.  I'm back as well, and will posting an update to my log soon.

 

Instead of a mask (I don't like wearing those things) you could set up a small fan blowing over your shoulder, or use a small dust collector, or just stop breathing while you sand.   :P

Posted
Posted

Very Cool build you have going on here Patrick,  I am glad that I did not miss out on this one 

 

Best Regards,

Pete

"may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back"
 
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Herreshoff Alerion

Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14

Volvo Open 70

 

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Posted (edited)

Hey Patrick!

 

LOVE the impression of the frames and side structure! Looking really great - I think you've really captured the essence.

 

It actually looked like what you'd see in a fiberglass hull - I know you mentioned to me the hull is supposed to be aluminium, so please don't take that as a criticism, just an interesting observation. It probably is a result of the scaling. Generally, fiberglass structures are shaped/sized differently, since all the structural rules change when you get away from metal construction. Metals yield and deform permanently before failing mechanically (yield stress vs ultimate tensile stress). But composites and plastics just kind of.........BOOOM and then are irreversibly broken. So they generally have to have larger cross sections for the frames and stiffeners, so there is more load carrying capability (stress is force/area - larger area equals larger load carrying capability, to put it simply). Meaning that fiberglass stiffening is generally lower and wider - almost c-channel shaped - to preserve interior volume without adding too much weight. And that is kind of what your stiffening looks like.

 

The point being that whether you intended the boat to be aluminum or fiberglass (both very common materials for boats this size), you've nailed the structure. Well, not really, since it's not wood. ( :rolleyes: ) But you get the point.

Edited by BenF89

~ Ben

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Current Builds:

'Doll-Boat' - 1:12 scale 40' Cruising Sailboat

S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald - 1:350 plastic kit w/ Photo Etch Parts (On Hold)

 

Posted

Hi Ben

 

Many thanks for the information you've provided above. Not only is it very clearly explained, but it's also instructive and informative; particularly because, as a layman, I really have little understanding of the different construction techniques that one would use and why they're used. After reading your comments, I went back to the original description of the full sized boat to see what type of hull material was used. Apparently, the original boat does indeed have a GRP hull, (not Aluminium as I originally thought), so I guess that explains the hull shape.

 

As a general comment, I'd also like to say that your expertise is invaluable...it's not everyday that I can get advice from a professional naval architect and I'm pretty stoked about that!

 

So, once again, thanks!

 

All the best

 

Patrick

Posted

That's beginning to look very nice Patrick.  re Ben's comments - that's why I don't like composite structural elements in aircraft.  Even secondary structures I have my misgivings on because when they fail it'll effect the primaries.  

In any case, we don't have to worry about all that stress - load - stuff in models  ;)

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted

Pulling up a late chair myself. Your work building model ships is amazing and I like to follow your blogs. Nice job using the polystyrene to make the hull of your model, that stuff is fun to work with. Would love to see a larger scale model made of her  as well as Symphony.  Been getting back into my own ship model after taking off much more time than I desired to.

Posted (edited)

Hi Bdgiantman

Many thanks for your support and comments. Like you I'd also love to do a larger scale ship, but I 'm limited by space, hence why I choose to do miniatures, instead.

Good luck with your model and I hope you can get back into it soon.

Cheers and all the best!

Patrick

Edited by Omega1234
Posted (edited)

Hi everyone

 

I've managed to do a bit more on sanding and puttying Majellan's hull. I think the shapely lines are finally starting to emerge now, especially the beautiful flare in the bow. Not bad, I reckon!

 

Also, in case you're wondering why I haven't done the transom yet, it's because Majellan doesn't have a normal transom as in most boats. Instead, the real ship has a stern door which lcan be lowered to reveal a large storage area for the ship's tender and other assorted gear, such as scuba gear, etc. Needless to say, I'll tackle the stern door when the internal fit out starts.

 

Anyhow, here are the photos of the progress, so far.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

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Posted

Hi Patrick

 

I'm happy to see you fully recovered and back to work - I enjoy your builds, and am envious of the speed you work at.  If I tried to accomplish as much in a short time my scrap bin would be overflowing.

 

Looks like the Majellan will be a really interesting project.

Posted

What a fine looking hull.  Fine job.

 

Bob

Every build is a learning experience.

 

Current build:  SS_ Mariefred

 

Completed builds:  US Coast Guard Pequot   Friendship-sloop,  Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard,   Spray,   Grand-Banks-dory

                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

In the Gallery:   Catboat,   International-Dragon-Class,   Spray

Posted

Looks great! now you're not going to chop half of it away are you?

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.

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