gerty Posted March 21, 2013 Share #31 Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Wow ! Great work and Great pics !! & nice painting. Edited March 21, 2013 by gerty Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 21, 2013 Share #32 Posted March 21, 2013 Hello David Love your jigs. The mast jig for working the underneath is a great Idea and I like the toe rail jig for cutting your scuppers. Both Ideas I'll catalog for future use. Thanks for putting this log up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 21, 2013 Share #33 Posted March 21, 2013 One other thing, On the mast hoops, How did you make them from wood? If I recall correctly the Swift I'm building uses brass rings but they would have probably been wood? Any details on the wooden mast hoop construction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhermann Posted March 21, 2013 Share #34 Posted March 21, 2013 David Ah yes, the chainplates... I remember stealing your technique for getting them through the rub rail to get mine through the top rail. Thanks for taking the time to re-post this finished build. Now it's time to get cracking on Sultana! Bob Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 21, 2013 Share #35 Posted March 21, 2013 Very good paintwork. That waterline is really nicely done. Good work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share #36 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) HI Mates, Post 15 of my Sharpie Schooner Build This is the 3rd time on this post by getting caught in miserable time outs on the post, blah!!! So now I am creating all posts in word with a transfer to the forum. Thanks to Gerty, Keith, BobB, and Russ for checking in on the repost of my Sharpie Schooner. Keith: Will get back re making mast hoops. This post is about making sails for my vessel. As I was building and thinking ahead to the finish line I was concerned the Sharpie would look a bit blank without sails. My favorite “how to” book, Ship Building from Stem to Stern by Milton Roth has a chapter devoted to sails and sail making. Russ helped me along the way giving great advice. as usual. Thanks Russ! Before moving on there are 4 terms I will be using from time to time. The luff is the part of the sail adjacent to the mast. Leech is the portion of the sail opposite the luff. The top of the sail is the head and the bottom the foot. Oh, there is no leech on a sib or staysail as they are triangles. Take a look at the sail plan for the Sharpie. Some build kits will not have a sail plan but one can figure out their dimensions with a little help from, Roth’s book. Photo 76 To make sails you need a sail plan drawing. Mine came with the kit. Photo 77 I traced the original drawing to to make a sail pattern. Photo 78 Made a card copy of each sail and place them agaist the masts and booms to make sure they fit as in not to large or small, very very important. A tip Russ gave to me way back. More to come.......... Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Edited April 20, 2013 by hopeful EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 23, 2013 Share #37 Posted March 23, 2013 Hi David! This is a gorgeous boat -really nice work!! I love the colors you used. Can you tell me what brand of acrylic 'medium gray' you used? I think it's the perfect blue-gray shade. Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) Hey Buck, Sorry to say I mixed the grey color myself using white and black. I placed a big blob of white on a 1/4" sheet of plate glass (10"X 12") I have, and mixed in a bit of black until I saw the shade I was looking for. Made enough of the color to fill a small plastic tube. As you can tell from the build I did not use much of medium grey. Try a mix and see what you come up with. Be sure to think about how much paint you will need and how it will be stored. Keep on with the build. Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Edited March 23, 2013 by hopeful Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share #39 Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) HI Mates, Post 16 of my Sharpie Schooner Build Log Sailmaking continued from post 15......... Photo 79 Need material to make sails. The best material is Egyptian cotton which has a very fine weave and is light as a feather. Boatbiuildesr who make sails prefer Egyptian cotton. I cut up an off white old shirt made of rip stop nylon. the weave was perfect for the scale of my vessel. Photo 80 Placed the material over my pattern. Photo 81 Used disappearing ink to trace the pattern. As soon as heat passes over the ink to disappears.......very clever product availabale at good sewing storess Photo 82 Making the sail. As stated, the rip stop nylon was placed over the ship’s sail plan and traced using disappearing ink. Photo 91 shows the completed sail plan for the main sail. Please note the following: There is an outer and inner line around the pattern The inner line represents the size of the finished sail. The 8 inner angled lines represent where the faux sail material is to be stitched together. In the age of sail the width of sail material was about 2’ wide or less. Material of 18” widths was common. So when making a sail one wants to show the stitching. Follow these steps to turn the pattern into sail that can be applied to the model. Stich by hand or sewing machine the 8 lines simulating where the sail material is joined together. Remove the material outside the outer line all around cutting slowly and carefully. Do not be in a hurry. When finished, you will have a sail just prior to creating the border. At this point turn the sail over and pin it to a piece of board to keep it from moving around. I placed pins through the inner outside boarder line in order to hide the pin holes after the fold over edge is formed. Fold the material along the inner line of the sail. Stich the folded edge of the material to the main body of the sail. I used an iron to press the edge of the fold which made it much easier to stich the fold. Suggested you practice folding the edge and fitting the corners using a piece of copy paper. Photo 83 Sewn seams. Photo 84 Fold made and sail finished to correct size per drawing. Photo 85 Adding the bolt rope. Photo 86 Completed sail set. This is the first sail set I made. The folded edge was not to scale so I made a second set which is shown on the completed vessel. Photo 87 Close up of sails on completed vessel. Happy sailmaking. BFN. Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Edited March 25, 2013 by hopeful EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #40 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Hi All, Continuing the repost... Post 17 of my Sharpie Schpooner Build Log Making masts etc. I have no photos of how I made the masts, booms, and gaffs. (Go ahead and follow the instructions for that phase of the build.) Next Steps......Rigging and stepping the masts. Photo 88 First step is to connect the mast hoops to the sail with threaded knots. Photo 89 Attaching the sail to the boom and gaff using robands. Do as much rigging work as possible before stepping the masts. Photo 90 Photo 91 Photo 92 Stepping the main mast. Photo 93 Stepping the foremast. Photo 94 Photo 95 Adding the staysail and staysail horse. More photos to come in this sequence in my next post................ Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Edited March 26, 2013 by hopeful EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted March 25, 2013 Share #41 Posted March 25, 2013 David, Beautiful job on the sails and the whole build. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #42 Posted March 25, 2013 HI Michael, Thank you for taking the time to look at my build, much appreciated. Am following your Bristol Pilot Cutter buid........wow! Much to learn from you and your build log. BFN Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #43 Posted March 25, 2013 Hi, Getting to the end of the repost. Post 18 of my Sharpie Schooner Build Log Rigging continues from post 17. Photo 96 Photo 97 Photo 98 Photo 99 Photo 100 Photo 101 Photo 102 More to come........ Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) EricWilliamMarshall and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeful Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #44 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) HI All, Post 19 of my Sharpie Build Log This is the last post of my build. If this build helps but one future builder of Midwest's Sharpie Schooner it was worth taking the time to repost the log. At this time I want to thank the members of the forum, you know who you are, whp helped me through my first build. Without your kind assistance along the way the build would have turned out very different. To everyone on the present forum I say take heart. It will take some time to get back to where the forum was in terms of build logs and other information. The work has begun, and we will get there because of the dedication of the Admirals, moderators and current builders on the site. I wish you all well. Ps.....show as much technique as possible when constructing build logs to help ofther builders grow and enjoy the forum. Photo 103 From here the photos are shots of the completed vessel. Photo 104 Photo 105 Photo 106 Photo 107 Photo 108 This ends the repost. Do not ever be ashamed to construct any type vessel. They all, in the end, can be quite wonderful! Thanks for looking in on the log, much appreciated. BFN! Cheers, Hopeful aka David “there is wisdom in many voices” Completed: Sharpie Schooner (Midwest) Reposting the build log at present On the bench: Sultana (MSW) Reposting the log and keeping on with the build Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Edited March 26, 2013 by hopeful GrandpaPhil, EricWilliamMarshall and slagoon 3 Quote Completed Sharpie Schooner: (Midwest) Current: Sultana (MS) Current: Phantom (MS) Next: Lady Nelson (Amati Victory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted March 25, 2013 Share #45 Posted March 25, 2013 Very nice model. This was a really fun build to watch. Your attention to detail and a little ingenuity really made a great difference. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehay Posted March 25, 2013 Share #46 Posted March 25, 2013 Beautiful job. Your workmanship is an inspiration. I will be using this build as a reference for alot of things. Pete Salty Sea Dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerty Posted March 25, 2013 Share #47 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Beautiful ! - and great job on the sails ! Edited March 25, 2013 by gerty Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete38 Posted March 26, 2013 Share #48 Posted March 26, 2013 Gets better the second time aroung. Great job as usual Quote Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted March 26, 2013 Share #49 Posted March 26, 2013 Hello David She's a beauty. Not to be a pest but just to remind,... nudge, nudge, wink, wink, Mast hoops... I'd love a brief desciption of how you made those beauties. They make a huge difference in the rigging and I'd love to incorporate them in the Swift rather then the brass rings. Thanks for bringing back another classic log. Love that Bear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee_Dee Posted March 26, 2013 Share #50 Posted March 26, 2013 David, Thanks for reposting your build - I really like you color scheme. Do you reccomend using gesso before painting? Would it be possible to post a 'close up' on the cabin sliding window covers? I plan to add these to my current build and would like to see how you made yours. Thanks again! Dee Dee Quote Current Build - Glad Tidings -MS Completed Builds - Dragon - Corel - One design International Class Yacht - Sloup Coquillier / Shell Fish Sloop - Corel - Based on 'Bergere de Domremy / Shepherdess from Domremy - Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack - Scratch build based on drawings from Chapelle's book "American Small Sailing Craft" On the Shelf - Gretel-Mamoli - Emma C. Berry-MS - Chesapeake Bay Pilot Boat, Semi-scratch Find yourself hoping you never reach your destination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted March 30, 2013 Share #51 Posted March 30, 2013 I've enjoyed reading thro' your log David, a really attractive build with some nice extra touches, Well done Regards, B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 31, 2013 Share #52 Posted March 31, 2013 Oooh, Aaah! Absolutely beautiful!! GrandpaPhil 1 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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