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Posted (edited)

Monday, February 29, 2016

 

As I already mentioned in a previous post, before continuing with the installation of the last three planks it was necessary to start some new, but preliminary activities.

 

In the days between my last post and now, I proceeded to perform these following tasks:

 

1) - Clean up the upper end of the frames from some waste material produced during the task of detaching the hull from its board: the removal had occurred using a mini-drill power tool with a cutting blade; the finishing, instead, was done with abrasive pads.

 

2) - Installation of new segments on many frames in order to continue with the necessary framing structure for the next planks; in particular this activity, apparently simple, needed to adapt these new parts to shape the correct bevel angle, otherwise they couldn't be applied as suggested by assembly instructions.

 

3) - Finally, with more in mind the objective to test the goodness of my approach with the colour scheme than for a real need at this stage, I proceeded to stain the interior of the planking and the visible part of the frames. This to make sure that the dye was properly distributing on the wood, also when there are some glue residuals, due to the non-easy task of removing the glue in excess during the planking. To achieve this goal, I modified the dye, prepared some time ago, by adding a good amount of alcohol to the mordant: this trick has meant that the soaking ability is now higher and, above all, it also worked in the presence of underlying glue. From the proposed pictures below, it seems to work perfectly . . .

 

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Obviously this mordant fluid, that should primarily simulate the caulking that was run all over the hull by the Vikings by using tar, is no doubt dark, but it was so made, so it's right . .

 

One last point: this really dark colour helps very much in hiding any defect of construction. I believe that once I'll apply some coats of transparent paint, rigidly opaque, everything will seem perfect and also the gloss and opaque areas that can now be observed, especially in the last picture shown, will disappear completely. Although I'm wondering if the realism rules would suggest to keep partially gloss/opaque as I don't think tar produces an nice and clean effect . . probably the opposite . .

 

At this point I should be able to continue with the installation of the last planks . .

Regards, Jack.

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Posted

Wow she is looking good. When building the Amati viking ship I experimented with finishes that would seal the exposed ply edges, cover any glue and look like tar. What I ended up doing was applying a first coat of natural wood colour paint. Then when that had dried I applied the stain and then a couple of coats of matt varnish.

Current Build:HM Bark Endeavour, scale 1:64, Caldercraft static kit (Build Log)


 

Posted

What a beauty Jack, what a beauty!

Yves

Many thanks Yves for your comment . .

 

Wow she is looking good. When building the Amati viking ship I experimented with finishes that would seal the exposed ply edges, cover any glue and look like tar. What I ended up doing was applying a first coat of natural wood colour paint. Then when that had dried I applied the stain and then a couple of coats of matt varnish.

Many thanks for you too . . I plan to finally seal the planks (when I installed them I always glued them together) after the staining will be completed. I'll do it by applying two coats of diluted vinyl all over the hull. It will fill the small grooves between a plank and its adjacents still remaining practically invisible, being totally absorbed by the wood. It's a trick I experienced many time always with good results. Eventually may be useful a final sanding before matt varnish or wood oil.

 

I printed all the book about the Gokstad ship from Nicolaysen . . I decided to be totally informed about what I'm building, hoping to discover additional details: at a first overview, for example, I saw the existence of a gunwale non planned in the kit . . I'll start soon its reading.

 

Regards, Jack.

Posted

The finish looks pretty good, Jack.  I don't see defects...  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Posted (edited)

Friday, March 11, 2016

I finally finished the planking laid down with the "Klingon" method.

I have to admit it was a really great experience, from which I learned many things: first to proceed slowly. From the three-four strakes per side that typically I can apply during a working session with the "carvel method"", with the "clinker" it was a success when I was able to apply one strake per side every two days. Probably, if a strake should be made with a single strip rather than by two probably I would have needed half the time I spent. A possible idea for an improvement to the author of this kit.
However it was a considerable good exercise for my patience, property I think to own a lot.
In addition, as I proceeded away from the keel, the initial errors grew, so I had to spend time and efforts to fix some things . . if you watch closely the attached images you will see some frames where I had to insert some wood to get a proper curvature, without "valleys or hills".

Now that the laying of the planks is over, a phase of arrangement of the whole complex begins, starting from the two hull ends but also from the reconstruction of the modified frames where I had to add wood. But all these tasks worries me much less than what I have done until now. However the shape of this boat is spectacular . .

Now that I came out from the "Klingon planking" tunnel I plan to keep my diary updated regularly. See you next time, Jack.

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Posted (edited)
Friday, March 18, 2016

 

First I worked a little inside the boat: I added an element not present in the kit, but I found listed in the Nicolaysen monograph, the archaeologist who in 1882 discovered this ship. It is a reinforcement on the last strake which also implements a small gunwale. On the model it is, in practice some 1x3 strip clips inserted inside, between a frame and the other.

 

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Finally I filled with a mixture of glue and wood dust the inside of the bow and stern, in proximity of the keel, to provide a greater reinforcement to the strips bonding in this area. Then, to better hide this I applied an "ad hoc strip" of veneer that hides everything. .

 

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Then I worked to refine the exterior of the keel area, particularly at the bow and at the stern, where I made a little mess during the planking. Here too I used veneer that allowed me to settle for good the areas subject to the treatment. Don't care about different types of timber used because you will not see any difference when it will be dyed. .

 

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It may seem little thing, but it took me four 1.5-2 hours working sessions each to come here.

 

I also planned and I am now preparing a further building slip, more practical of the first I built, for the continuing of this  build. But this is not yet finished.

 

A friendly greeting, Jack.Aubrey.

 

Edited by jack.aubrey
Posted (edited)
Many thanks to all of your for the likes.

 

As I wrote sometime ago this is a new, challenging experience in planking and I'm happy of the result, being it my first attempt. Here below some add'l pics of prow and poop details, were I made the bigger work.

 

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Regards, Jack.

 

PS: At the time I purchased this kit I bought also another kit, the Viking Knarr, 1:35 scale, that isn't a warship but a merchant ship. But the planking is always clinker (or klingon as i named it) and i'll make use of this first experience.

Edited by jack.aubrey
Posted (edited)

Silly question.... Did you only stain the keel on one side, post the pictures in non-chronological order or are you building more than one of these ships :)?

Jan

 

Pictures are all in chronological order.

Initially I thought to stain dark brown all the pieces before installing them. But then I realized that it was a useless work and therefore the only pieces treated in this way was the keel and the frames. Now, during the finishing tasks for the bow and the stern, after the planking, I decided to cover the keel with veneer. Anyway, at the end, all the outer hull will be stained dark brown. Regards, Jack.

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Posted (edited)
Saturday, March 19, 2016

 

Apart from changing the color of the carpet, from green to orange, there is nothing different from the pictures of my previous message unless the new (and third in the series) building board which will accompany me in the coming weeks (or months) until completion of this model.

 

Taking advantage of the fact that the protruding sides of the hull keel are quite high, I thought at a solution of building board able to clamp firmly it. It is also much more light and easy to handle compared with the first version. 

 

Simple but effective, I believe that from now on it will be very useful and functional.

 

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Below the new pictures with the model clamped by the new building board.

 

Enjoy the show, Jack.

 

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Posted

Lovely work, Jack.  She's looking great.  i think you have mastered clinker planking.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Lovely work, Jack.  She's looking great.  i think you have mastered clinker planking.

 

 

Indeed!! That last picture looks like what you would see in a Naval Museum. This is a masterpiece Jack.

 

Yves

 

Many thanks to all of you for the positive comments . . . included the several likes. Jack.

Posted (edited)
Tuesday, March 22, 2016

 

Today I have finished the shell and the ribs inside the hull. I rounded the tips of the ribs after having levelled them to the upper edge of the hull. At the end of the session I applied the "special" color prepared some time ago to simulate the tar finishing. 

 

The main fact to point out is that, despite having made many efforts to clean up the glue in excess during planking, it is still somewhere present and, there, the appearance of the stained wood is semi-gloss, while when the glue is absent it is rather opaque. This means than one or two coats of matt transparent will be, at the very end, mandatory to achieve an uniform finishing effect.

 

Now it is time to work outside the hull, to complete the refinement of the external side and apply the same painting scheme. Next steps . .

 

PS: I found serious difficulties to take pictures in which seeing something interesting in these very dark hull sides, result of the treatment with dye; for this reason I had to modify the original images with Adobe Photoshop to highlight details otherwise invisible. I humbly apologize for this manipulation.

 

See you soon, Jack.  

 

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Posted (edited)

Thursday, March 24, 2016

 

Today I finished the outside of the hull: sanding, individually made on each strake, followed by a coat of the same stain I used for the interior.

 

To highlight: although to a lesser extent, the same problem facing the inside emerged also here, due to the excesses of glue that I wasn't able to clean completely. Also because this glue excess was simply completely invisible before applying the stain. It worked, in this case, as a highlighter. 

 

So again one or two coats of matt transparent paint will be needed to obtain a uniform background.

 

Regards, Jack.

 

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Posted (edited)

Many thanks to all of you for the likes and positive appreciations of my work. Thanks again, Jack.

 

Tuesday, March 29, 2016

 

Having finished the hull, at least regarding the general appearance, I started the covering of the deck. Task without any particular difficulty, requiring only patience and precision.

 

Below the images of the model when I reached one half of the deck planking task. Enjoy them, Jack.

 

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Edited by jack.aubrey
Posted
Posted

I agree with Grant, Jack.  That is lovely planking.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)
Saturday, April 2, 2016

 

I finished to cover the deck with veneer, I think with pearwood or cherrywood, without facing any particular problem. I'm attaching some images of the work done.

 

Anyway this deck finishing seems to me a little too "perfect" and "clean" to be realistic on a ship of this type. I do not think Vikings kept him like a pearwood "parquet". Now I need to imagine, think and implement a proper ageing process . . but it is a task I do not believe I can perform here in Pisa, for lack of suitable materials and equipments in my local workshop.

 

However, it is not a task to be performed now . . I can wait more.

 

Cheers, Jack.

 

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Edited by jack.aubrey
Posted

The more I see of this build, the more I'm giving some thought to one of these for myself.  Beautiful, Jack.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

First of all I have to thank Grant, Yves and Mark for their messages . .

Thursday, April 7, 2015

I started the building of the shields.
64 in total and luckily, thanks to Mr. Dusek, they are laser precut otherwise should be a great pain to make all of them so perfectly rounded and equal to each other.
The background color is golden yellow, while only the shield side facing the outside of the hull will receive a second color: I'm thinking to dark red.
To achieve this kind of task should be perfect the usage of a airbrush: I have it but it is in my main workshop, 350km far from me . . To facilitate this painting task, I fixed the shields of an adhesive "bed". In this way I'm working quietly and easily.
Regards, Jack.

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Posted (edited)
Wednesday, April 13, 2016

 

It seems it has been months since I had inhalations of cyanoacrylate glue as now !!!

 

I feel a bit dazed but now the shields are almost finished, lacking only a coat of matt transparent paint to hide the small but inevitable glue smudges.

 

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Posted (edited)

Saturday, April 16, 2016

As the ingredients necessary for the kind of weathering suggested by my friend Andrea (Vass) does not require special ingredients or alchemy, I decided to proceed immediately to a field test and, if positive, to proceed without delay to weather the Viking ship deck.

Below the properly prepared solution, and now I've just to wait long enough to get the appropriate color to proceed with the tests.

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However, I surfed a bit on the internet to learn more about this weathering method and I discovered that it is a very common practice to produce an antique furniture, often adopted by many restorers. I found a good explanation on http://www.wikihow.com/Age-Wood-With-Vinegar-and-Steel-Woolsite that I propose below in detail. Happy reading, Jack.

Part 1: Preparing to Make Your Stain

1) Gather your materials. This is a fairly simple process that requires minimal supplies. You may already have them at home. If not, you should be able to find everything you need at a dollar store, grocery store, or somewhere like Target or Walmart.
White distilled vinegar. Any brand will do.
Steel wool. Fine graded is ideal because it disintegrates best, but any grade will work.
A container of some sort. This can be a bucket, a jar, a pot, a bowl, or whatever else you have on hand. If you dislike the smell of vinegar you may want to opt for a container you can close while the mixture sits, particularly if you want it to get quite dark, as this will involve letting it sit for a while.
Rubber gloves. These are optional, but a good idea if you are concerned about cutting your fingers on the steel wool, or if you plan on making a particularly dark solution that might stain your fingers.
A strainer. This is also optional, as you can apply the stain straight from whatever container you made it in. This will come in handy if you want to transfer the liquid to another container to store and use again later.
A paintbrush.

2) Make sure you are staining an appropriate kind of wood. Some woods will work better than others. You don’t want to go to the trouble of making a stain only to discover that it won’t stain.
Wood with bifurcated grains is best, particularly where the wood grain is layered in hard/soft layers, so the soft layers are affected by the process but the hard layers are not, causing the wood to look old.
Softwoods are easier to work with than hardwoods. Southern yellow pine, western cedar, and fir are excellent candidates for aging. Red oak, maple, or other slow-growing, tightly grained woods are not.
Hardwoods with a distinct grain, such as hickory, white oak, elm, or ash, can also work well.
This method is not appropriate for laminate flooring, as the vinegar will likely cause the glue holding the layers together to fall apart.

3) Decide how you want your wood to look. Stains made with steel wool and vinegar range from a reddish, rusty brown, to a very dark, burnt brown. They also range in intensity from very subtle, to very intense. These factors are influenced by the ratio of steel wool to vinegar, and by how long you let the mixture sit. Before you begin, decide approximately color stain you want to create, and plan accordingly.
The color of the stain is determined by how long it sits. Stain soaked for just a couple days will have a dark, burnt tone. The longer it sits, the rustier in color it will become.
The intensity of the stain is determined both by how many steel wool pads you use, and how long you let the mixture sit. 1-3 steel wool pads to a half-gallon of vinegar should work for most projects. If you want your stain to darken faster, try adding another steel wool pad. If it becomes too dark, simply dilute it with water.

Part 2: Making Your Stain

1) Break up your steel wool. This step is not strictly required, but it will help the disintegration process and speed things up. You will want to wear plastic gloves to avoid cutting your fingers. Break apart the steel wool pads, and put the pieces in the container you are mixing your stain in.

2) Combine your materials. This is pretty straightforward. Just pour the vinegar over the steel wool. Give it a good mix, and put the cover on.

3) Let it sit. You can create a very subtle stain in just 15 minutes or so, but you will probably want to wait longer. 2-4 days will make a stain suitable for most projects, but you can let the mixture steep for months at a time to create a more dramatic effect.

4) Strain the stain. This is an optional step, and is more important if you plan on storing the stain for later use. When it reaches the color you want, you can pour the mixture through a colander and into a new, sealable container. You can also use it straight from whatever container it is in.


Part 3: Applying Your Stain

1) Stain a test surface. Without knowing what your stain looks like when applied, you might not want to brush it onto your furniture just yet. Brush some onto a scrap piece of the same sort of wood, or a part of whatever you are staining that is not usually visible, and wait an hour. If you don’t like the color you end up with, make adjustments to your mixture; add more steel wool or wait longer if you want it to be darker, wait longer if you want it to be redder, or dilute it with water if you want it to be subtler.

2) Sand the wood. Sanding your wood down before painting it can give it an even more dramatically weathered look. This step is optional, and your stain should look good with or without it. It’s just a matter of what effect you want to achieve.

3) Brush the stain onto the wood. There is no particular technique necessary for this. Brush in the direction of the grain, coating it evenly, and let it sit to allow the stain to penetrate the wood. Then just let it dry, and sit back and admire your work.

4) Wax the wood. You can choose whether or not to do this based on how you want the final product to look. For a polished sheen, wait for the wood to dry completely, brush on the wax, let it dry for an hour, and polish it with a towel. If you want a more natural, weather-beaten look, skip this step.

Edited by jack.aubrey
Posted (edited)

Sunday, April 17, 2016

While waiting for the weathering vinegar solution becomes ready . . . I think it will take some days, here are some elements of the superstructure completed and positioned (but not yet fixed) on the deck . .
The model begins to take its beautiful original form . .

Cheers, Jack.Aubrey.

 

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Edited by jack.aubrey

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