Brigantine Phoenix 1787 by Corey - Master Korabel - 1:72 scale - 12 cannon brigantine from brigantine squadron Admiral F.F. Ushakov

[Corey]

 Hello all,

    I'm new to model ship building and new to this site. I'm about to start my first build and like the idea creating a log.

   This is not something I have taken lightly. I've done lots of research and read some books about building model ships. I now feel I'm ready to take the plunge. I hope I titled this log correctly.

    More to come!

Edited November 25, 2015 by Corey

[GuntherMT]

Good luck on your first build, and welcome to the site.  The only thing left out of your title is the scale (as far as I know).

 

I see you are from Mesa.  We have a small group that meets sort of monthly in the Phoenix area (different hosts each time).  If you are interested in joining us, please shoot me a PM with your email address, and I'll add you to the list for the next meeting (which we actually haven't decided on yet with the holidays coming up).

[GuntherMT]

I responded to your post on how to edit your subject in the other thread.

 

As for our meetings, they are pretty informal, sharing of tips, tricks, jigs, methods, or whatever other subject we want to discuss.  We've done various small workshop type things, and we've also had mostly just show-and-tell and chat meetings.  We'd always be open to covering a specific issue as well, and helping someone out with a problem.  Since it's not a formal 'club' with dues and charters and such, we can do whatever we like.

It's also nice just to get together face to face with people who share our hobby once in a while.

[Mumin]

Good luck with this kit, it looks great and has somewhat unorthodox hull construction. Take a look at those links, may come handy:

 

Photo build log: https://plus.google.com/photos/118352369589541721632/albums/5931202021827923873

 

Build log (in Russian, but lots of photos): http://forum.modelsworld.ru/topic13249.html

 

Actually they have the whole forum on this model: http://forum.modelsworld.ru/forum110.html

[Corey]

Much appreciated Mumin,

     I chose this model kit initially because of the fine detail. Upon further investigation it seemed that it would perhaps be a good choice for a first time build with the laser cut planking and the hull design. We'll see.

Thanks so much for the links. These will be a great resource for me.

 

Corey

[Corey]

This is an experiment to see how all of this works. Just a couple pics of my meager tool set and clamps. 

Edited November 29, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

     First off just let me say that I'm a true DIRECTIONS kind of guy. I never do anything without first reading the directions, and I mean anything. As an example: I read several books on ship modeling before this kit was even in my possession.  So, I'm a little nervous because all the directions for this kit are in Russian. I don't know if it's possible to translate them into English but I may try.

     The hull design for this model kit though is like a puzzle. The pieces go together in such a way as to keep all the parts square and true. The bulkhead frame pieces have laser drawn lines around the edges to assist in beveling. Using the picture guide and parts map, included with the kit, I was able to find and dry fit all the basic hull parts in no time at all. Long story short, I've decided this is a great kit for a first time build.

 

Shall we begin? The official opening of the kit and the dry fit of the initial hull parts. I'm using blue painters masking tape to keep the loose part in the panels until ready for use.

Edited November 29, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

So far I've glued up the hull frame, glued on aft section parts and started on the bulwark framing. I can't get the photos added to the post. When I place the cursor where I want it and click on "Add to Post" nothing happens so here's a list of the pics and a brief description:

 

Photos 1 - 2.......Gluing up the hull frame.

Photo 3...............My work station/kitchen table.

Photos 4 - 6........Filing the bevel (fairing) the bulkhead frames/bevel profile.

Edited December 4, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

Working on the stern.

 

Photos 1 - 5

Edited December 13, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

I've made some mistakes which I've been able to fix but I won't go into detail. I've also learned a couple things. Clamps can push a piece out of position and posting on this site doesn't work the way it's supposed to. I can't "Add Photo to Post" and I can't copy and paste from a Word document. I don't know if it's my computer (windows 10) or the site. I have Adobe Flash and it is enabled.

 

I'm pleased with my progress on the build so far and I really enjoy being a part of the MSW community.

 

Photos 1 - 3  Framing the bulwarks

Edited December 3, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

A question for those more experienced ship modelers. I'm about to glue in the sub-deck. Should I apply glue to all the frame parts that will come into contact with the false floor or just parts of the frame?

 

 

Okay, anyone?

Edited December 13, 2015 by Corey

[GuntherMT]

I've made some mistakes which I've been able to fix but I won't go into detail. I've also learned a couple things. Clamps can push a piece out of position and posting on this site doesn't work the way it's supposed to. I can't "Add Photo to Post" and I can't copy and paste from a Word document. I don't know if it's my computer (windows 10) or the site. I have Adobe Flash and it is enabled.

 

 

Are you using Internet Explorer as your browser?  If so, download and install Chrome and try it, I bet that will fix all your issues, as IE is a bad browser and causes issues with many sites, but especially this one.  The problems you are having are known issues with IE and the software that runs this forum, starting about the time they released Windows 10.

[Corey]

Thanks Brian,

     I discovered the issue with IE earlier today while reading the forum. I've already installed Google Chrome and did a test run. Now everything works as it should.

 

Thanks again,

Corey

[Corey]

So far so good. I was on a work stretch so I haven't made a whole lot of progress on the model. I finished the stern portion, put in the sub-deck and started the base planking on the bulwarks.
     I don't have a plank bender and the planks that go on the bulwarks are plywood. I decided to steam the plywood planks which may not have been the best option because the outer layer tended to separate and wrinkle on the inside radius of the bend. Strategically placed clamps prevented this from becoming a major issue. Initially I formed the planks into the basic shape of the hull using clamps, allowed the planks to dry then glued and clamped them to the hull. I found it was easier to clamp the steamed planks directly to the hull to form them then glue them on when dry.

 

 

 

Stern section complete

 

 

 

Sub-deck added

 

 

 

Preparing the keel for planking

 

 

 

Forming the plywood planks

 

 

 

Planks glued on and clamped

 

 

 

Not too shabby at the bow 

Edited December 13, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

Just a couple more pics of the bulwark planking:

Edited December 12, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

Better late than never. After gluing the second bulwark plank and letting it dry I discovered the top of the plank was higher on the right side than on the left. It took several minutes of gentle prying to get the glue joints apart without tearing or breaking anything. I need to be more careful!

[mtaylor]

Corey,

 

Are you using PVA glue?  If so, isopropyl alcohol (90% is best) will dissolve the glue joints.  Brush some onto the joint, soak a paper towel and wrap the joint.  Might take a couple of tries, but it will break it free. 

[Corey]

Hey Mark,

     

     Thanks for the tip. Yes, I'm using PVA glue and I'll try using alcohol the next time I screw up.

 

     I learn something new every time I'm on the site. I just discovered yesterday, while reading a build log, that I should be sanding the laser char off of each part. My model kit directions are in Russian so I'm missing all of those fine details and essentially assembling this model by the seat of my pants.

 

     I wish more people would chime in with suggestions and thoughts. I could sure use the help.

 

Thanks again, 

Corey

[Corey]

Thank you avsjerome2003,

 

Is "Crackers" your moniker or a type of fair-the-well? If you have any suggestions or see that I'm doing something wrong, PLEASE, I'm all ears.

 

Corey

Edited December 14, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

So the build continues with the first layer of planking. I'm a little worried about the sloppiness of some of the glue joints but I'm hoping sanding and filling the gaps will fix all the flaws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

I got this idea from one of the build logs. Now why didn't I think of this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now I have Light!

 

 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2015 by Corey

[Seventynet]

Hi Corey,

 

You are doing a fine job. Just take the time you need to figure things out and it will pay off (says a fellow first time builder ​). I was admiring the rabbit in your stem. Nice work. That's a good solution for a movable lamp post. Those things take a lot of torque and this looks like the ticket.

Happy New Year!

Ian 

[Corey]

 My happy little corner of the kitchen.

 

Edited December 31, 2015 by Corey

[Corey]

Okay, back to work! Completing the initial planking on the hull.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it's a little rough

 

Edited February 21, 2016 by Corey

[Corey]

Sanding and filling the hull.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Getting close!

Edited February 21, 2016 by Corey

[Corey]

Building up the bulwarks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2016 by Corey

[Corey]

Starting the secondary planking.

 

 

 

 

Forming the outer bulwark planking to the hull.

 

 

Now it's time to glue it up.

 

 

 

 

I'm pleased with how this is turning out so far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2016 by Corey

[achuck49]

Did something happen to stop this log? Following with interest

[mtaylor]

Looks like Corey hasn't been since the 26th of February according to his profile.  Let's hope it's just life getting in the way.