Hr. Ms. O 19 1938 by Piet - FINISHED - scale 1:50 - submarine of the Royal Navy Netherlands in service 1939 - 1945

[mtaylor]

Piet,

 

Here's one from Youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gasAFyonmmI   It should explain everything.    :D  

[Paul Salomone]

Hello Piet,

 

Every piece added to this beauty is resulting in an astonishing finish.

 

Well done.

[texxn5]

That's a very nice torpedo tube.  I like the bow in the door....gives a nice detail appearance.

[Piet]

Hey Mark, you just made my day!      

 

But wait, no fun to use my slagomatic without an audience and don't have a video camera

 

This is a great fun video, thanks for sharing, now I know where your interests lay     

 

Cheers,

[Piet]

Hello everyone, and thanks to Yambo,John (texxxn5) and Sjors for dropping in.

 

Well, today I made the brass rails and support pieces for over the launcher deck area.  I also completed the mounting block for the stern torpedo loading tube and installed same.  I'm now ready to finish the well opening and add a few strips of wood for the hatch door hinges and paint the inside of the forward and rear well areas.  Hope I have enough paint.  

Then I cut three small pieces of tubing for the pressure door and soldered the one to the tube.

 

Next I tried to make the door locking wheel but had some problems with it.  Very small to work with but I'm not giving up.  I need to have them finished before I can solder the hinges to the door.

 

I'm still waiting on the 17 mm brass tubes for the escape hatch tubes.  I like to have them before I can definitely know where the deck rails go.  This too will be a tedious job to cement them to the deck.  But there is still a lot of work to do before I can do that.

 

Here are two pics of some of the things I did today.

 

These are the brass real and deck support beams/rails over the launcher deck area.  The two forward ones are for the deck support, the four behind them are for deck support on the outboard side and hatch covers between the rails..  Then I cut 4 pieces of N scale flex track for the rails on the existing deck.  These rails actually are the tops of the torpedo tube alley structure for loading the deck torpedo launcher.  They used a small four wheel trolly to bring the torpedoes forward to the loading gantry.

If you squint real good you may be able to see the four hatch doors for the loading tube well next to the well opening.

 

This shows the mounting block for the stern loading tube.  

 

Cheers,

 

 

[texxn5]

Looking good Piet, it's adding a very nice touch to this part of the boat.

[Piet]

Hello Paul and John,  sorry, almost overlooked yuns, you were on the next page, fooled me.

 

@ John (texxn5), well yes, these doors needed to close all openings to the pressure hull and to withstand the pressure they needed be convex to the outside.  the same applies to the escape tubes and the AA gun mount supports.  The AA guns on the O 19 retract inside a watertight tube with a pressure lid to close it.  Pretty clever.  Next you are going to ask me if I'm going to make that workable.  Go ahead and ask - - - well, I was thinking about it but right now I'm not so sure.

 

@ Paul, thanks for dropping my friend and your kind and supporting words. Yes, I'm well pleased with how she is coming along.  Still a lot of time consuming detail work ahead though.

 

Cheers, 

[texxn5]

Now Piet, how in the world could you possibly know that I was going to ask you if you are going to make that workable????   You must be psychic......ok....well, are you?????

[Sjors]

Nice Piet,

 

But one question......

How do you find that sub on that worktable????????

There are so many stuff on it         

 

[Piet]

Thank you Daniel, John and Sjors for dropping in and your comments, I think 

 

@ John, no, I'm not psychic but I remembered you asking about it when you visited us   Well, right now I really don't know yet.  I have to figure out how they did it.  I can probably make some workable system that would suffice, but it would be great if I could find the real thing.  I know there are drawings in the Naval Archive but accessing them for this may be too much to wish for.  I'm sure I can figure something out.

 

@ Sjors, I have no problem finding the boat my friend.  She is pinned to my build dock, which I can move around and rotate.  All that "stuff" on the build board is what I use on a daily base and am just too lazy to put it away and then retrieving it again the next day.  I have more tools and "stuff" to the right of the dock that I also use often, it's handy.  There is "stuff" behind it against the wall but that's still from where I put things before the build.  Just too lazy to put it somewhere else.  At least I know where everything is     

Gwen, the Admiral, already told me, you used to be such a neat freak with your tools and work area, what happened????  I don't know - - - I guess I am slowly sliding into the slob abyss - - - oh noooooo - - -    

[Piet]

Hello every one.

 

Been busy making the torp loading tube door locking wheels.  I turned a wooden dowel to the correct diameter and then wound a .7 mm brass rod  around it to form a coil.  That way I could cut a pice that's circularly formed.  Okay, now I have the rim of 10.5 mm.  Next I cut a few small pieces of the same diameter rod for the spokes and soldered them into a cross.  I cut and filed the ends to fit inside the rim and soldered it all together.  Yes, I used the steel office clamp as a heat-sink.

Filed and scraped excess solder away but the photo tells me I need to do some cleaning up.

 

I also made the hinges for the read pressure door and now both tubes are ready for assembling and paint.

 

I also cut and installed the small pieces of wood for under the deck plates at the stern torp loading well for the hatch door hinges.  When that is all nicely trimmed both the bow and stern wells are ready for paint and installation of the tubes.  Then it's making busy with the hatch door hinges.

 

It's amazing how much time goes into making these small items.  Well, here are two pics of today's accomplishments.

 

Here we have both the bow and stern torpedo loading tube assemblies displayed on to of the deck.  In the meantime I have painted the inside of the tubes flat black  That penciled circle between the tubes is the future location for the deck gun. 

 

This shows the result of winding the brass rod to make the little wheel rims.

 

Cheers,

[Jim Lad]

Delightful work, mate!

 

John

[Piet]

Thank you John, and it's also a pleasure when things go right.  

 

Cheers,

[mtaylor]

Sweet work on the tube doors.   I'll just admire them and let someone else ask if they actually lock.   ;)  

[harvey1847]

Can not wait to see those wheel rims painted!

 

Beautyful work Piet.

 

 

Daniel.

[Adrieke]

very nice detail Piet , it looks so real

[texxn5]

Excellent metal work Piet, makes for lot's of fine detail....I would imaging, that you can figure out the gun if you should decide that is something you want to add my friend,,,,,

[Remcohe]

I know there are drawings in the Naval Archive but accessing them for this may be too much to wish for.  

 

Who knows, maybe Santa is generous this year 

[ianmajor]

Piet,

 

Good Heavens..I have been away for a week and missed a huge amount of progress on your boot. It is looking beautiful in its primer and the detail around the torpedo loading tubes and other deck furniture(?) is superb. I am continuing to learn a shed load about submarines - I can't wait for you to produce the conning tower to see what we find there!  

[Piet]

Hello everyone and I trust all y'all are doing fine and being in good spirit.

 

@ Mark, locks on the hatch doors?  They have locks?  Oh noooo, more work, hinges and locks.  I thought locks is a preserved fish      Oh, sorry, different spelling.

Talking about hinges for the hatch doors I am making, I need 25 pair.  They are to be made from 1.5 mm brass tubing cut into 1 mm small pieces.  That makes 50 of these little buggers.  That'll keep me out of the bar     

 

@ Daniel,  painting the tubes and locking wheels is coming soon.  All of the "stuff" inside the wells will be painted dark grey.  I'll leave at least one well and door open showing the loading of a torpedo.  I think it'll be the forward one.

 

@ Adriaan, thanks for your approval, yes, I'm happy with the way they turned out.

 

@ John (texxn5), thans John.  Yup, I have figured out how to make the AA guns retract into their-water tight pressurized tubes.  how?  Glad you asked - - - - - first I insert a brass tube into the pressure hull with the end even with the top of the pressure hull.  The length of it must be long enough for a second tube that can slide into the lower tube, much like a hydraulic car lift.  On top of the second tube will be a cross beam to keep it centered and the base for the AA guns. This way the gun can swivel up and down and rotate horizontally.  Now, that's what I see in my mind right now.  Next I'll have to make a work sketch and put some measurement on it.  I just bought a few brass tubes for this project as well as a few smaller tubes for the periscopes.  Hmmmmmm, yea, they'll retract too 

 

@ Remco, Sinter Klaas?  Oh my, I have not been a very good boy this year - - - - I hope "Zwarte Piet" wrote all my bad things with invisible ink       I hope you realize that I didn't mention it as a hint - - - but it would really be great to know what sort of anchor they used on the side.

 

@ Ian, well, that's what happens when you go away for a week and don't log in to MSW.  Things change rapidly.  Well, this morning I had to remake the stern loading tube and grind some more wood away in that area.  Took me about an hour total.  Both tubes are now cemented in place and I can paint the wells and tubes.  Tomorrow we'll have a few pics.    

I have drawn the outline of the con on top of the deck but I may have to make it a tad narrower yet.  I'm following the deck layout drawing I got from Gino.  First I used the O 21 model drawings I bought through Remco but the O 19 and O20 seem to be narrower then the later subs.  Hey, I am also learning about subs, I'm an airplane guy   

 

I'm still waiting on my 17 mm tubes for escape hatches.  As mentioned a few posts ago, I will be making my own AA pressure tubes from flat stock.  I don't see paying $25 for shipping.  I also started with the net / cable cutters for the bow.  

 

Well, that's it for today.  Thank you all for joining me on the build of my father's boat, the O 19.

 

Cheers,

[texxn5]

I knew you had a plan in mind....time to get out your trusty drawing pencil my friend.....it'll be a nice addition....look out for Popeye....he sees all....lol

[popeye the sailor]

I can only go from past experience...........here,  I have none.   still a land lubber,  getting my feet wet......I can only watch and comment on the super work your doing.

[Piet]

Hello Popeye, John (texxn5), Daniel, Remco, Mark and Anthony for stopping by and your kind words.

 

@ John, yeah, there is always a way to skin a cat but I have to be extra diligent in drawing up the build of the conning tower.  There are other details involved and this time I can try to anticipate the correct location of all the "stuff" that's involved with the con.  It'll be more like a "plank on frame" job.

 

@ Popeye, please don't sell yourself short my friend, you do some awesome stuff with your builds    Thank you for your encouragement, I really appreciate your comments.

 

More to come later.

 

Cheers,

[Piet]

Hello again friends,

 

Today was more exploration of the conning tower.  Instead of just building the con without any working detail I "conned" myself into going hog wild.  That's why I am now taking my time to draw up the basic build as "plank on frame".  I must be sure about where all the detail stuff is placed and the measurements.  I'll have to go back to my drafting table and lay things out for this build.  It's like Remco's mantra, treat each part as a model.

 

In addition to more thinking and sketching I painted both the stern and bow torpedo loading wells and tubes.  I also made the stern well hatch doors.  Then, in my sketching the conning tower I determined that I had to remake the dingy loading boom, which is also the center support for the hatch covers.  

I have no detail drawings for this thing but have a fair idea how it could have been done.  For the model it'll be attached to a rotating pin at the aft end of the conning tower and can also be rotated out of the dingy compartment with a bolt through the rotating pin assembly.  The other end will have a place for a sheave and tackle and a latching hook for the lift cable.

 

I also made two of the stern mooring thingies.

 

Well, that's about it and below are a few pics of today's progress.

 

This is the stern torpedo loading tube installed and painted.  The entire well is painted dark grey.

 

This is the bow torpedo loading tube installed and painted with the pressure door closed, as well as the entire well area.

 

This is the bow torpedo loading tube installed and painted with the pressure door open.

 

Here are the two mooring gismos at the stern.

 

Just for doing something else I made the lid for the mine tube bins.  Still tempting to actually cut a hole in the poor boat and install a tube with a model of a mine.  Just too much work, the area inside was not build with that in mind and it'll require a lot of very difficult work to make it look right.  It's like doing an appendectomy through your nose.   But then again, who knows, I love a challenge.  Don't get your hopes up too high John   

 

This is a copy of a photo I have of the O 19 with all the mine bins open.  I modeled my lid after this picture.  My question is this, if anyone can lead me to a place that sells letter and number decals that look like these I'll be mighty obliged.  I also need Roman numerals for the draft markings.

 

Cheers, 

[texxn5]

Hi Piet, that sure is a good looking door.  It sure looks like it needs a tube to go with it.....it's kind of lonely all by itself, and how hard is a little mine to build after all the other things you've built....oh well, I guess ..... only in our dreams....????  Maybe just a little bore out with a sharp milling tool and a little brass or copper?????  shouldn't hurt anything if done slowly.....but what do I know????   lol.....looks good my friend...

[mtaylor]

Piet,

 

The loading tubes and doors look spectacular.

 

I'm thinking that John might have a good idea.  You wouldn't have to all the doors, maybe just one?  The tube wouldn't have to be full depth, just enough to "see" the mine in it. 

[Jim Lad]

One door open.  Bulkheads each side with the lightening holes painted black so it looks like there's space beyond.  Just one teensy weensy mine?

 

Are we tempting you yet, Piet?  

 

John

[mtaylor]

[PacificCrossRoads]

Hi Piet. Look closely at the photo! Should be above the crossbar! Best wishes and thanks for the help!

Edited November 9, 2013 by PacificCrossRoads

[michael mott]

Hi Piet , regarding the numbers you might try some of the model railroad decals.

 

Michael