PamW Posted October 17, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 17, 2016 I enlarged and printed the pattern sheet today.....have a good idea where my tracing vellum is along with my drawing tools. This is exciting. ....this is going to be a REALLY big ship. Onward, Pamela Canute, zoly99sask, GuntherMT and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 17, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 17, 2016 Looking forward to this one Pamela. I expect great things. Have you decided what kind of woods you are going to be using? zoly99sask, mtaylor, Bill Hime and 1 other 4 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted October 17, 2016 Keel spine and bulk heads will be poplar....keel, stern post, bow post will be walnut. I do not want to paint anything so I am open to suggestions as to what will look good. Pamela Canute, zoly99sask, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 17, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 17, 2016 I was pretty happy with how the walnut looked on my hull, and of course the keel & bow post are all walnut as well. Another good wood I believe would be cherry, although I only used it for contrast on some deck furniture. There are a couple of logs here done by DocBlake (Dave) in the kit section, here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10979-armed-virginia-sloop-patrick-henry-by-docblake-finished-lauck-street-shipyard-scale-132-pof-admiralty-style/ and here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6998-armed-virginia-sloop-by-docblake/?hl=%2Barmed+%2Bvirginia+%2Bsloop Where he uses no paint, and only the wood for coloring, and his choices of woods were quite nice looking if you want to take a look at them. mtaylor, Bill Hime and Canute 3 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted October 18, 2016 Ha.....found the tracing vellum AND my french curves......right where I had left them oddly enough. Wink, Pamela Canute, GuntherMT, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted October 20, 2016 Placed the order for the first pile of wood. mtaylor, GuntherMT, Bill Hime and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted October 20, 2016 Woohoo.....woods on the way..... Now I need to make all the templates. The keel spine is almost 28" long and the widest bulkhead is near 9" Excited, Pamela Canute, zoly99sask, GuntherMT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 20, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 20, 2016 I've got my chair. 28" sounds like a nice size. But you need to get some sleep. "Found the drawing tools at 6:21 PM last night, Placed an order for wood at 3:24 AM this morning and posted at 7:11 AM." Worked all night, how do you do that? Bob Bill Hime, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) I go to bed around 7PM and get up between 2-3am. Have tried to change that but doesn't work. And if you look at the dates I found the drawing tools several days ago. Wink Edited October 20, 2016 by PamW mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 20, 2016 Share #10 Posted October 20, 2016 Quite the night owl. Haha.. Where did you end up sourcing the wood if you don't mind sharing? Canute, mtaylor and Bill Hime 3 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted October 20, 2016 Ocooch hardwoods they specialize in stuff for the scroll saw and laser cutting hobby. I ordered 5 planks 3/8"x10"x48" at 22.00 each in poplar and one piece 3/8"x6"x24" for 9.50 in Walnut so we'll see. I figure 5he quality has to be good for scroll saw work Canute, mtaylor, GuntherMT and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted October 20, 2016 Share #12 Posted October 20, 2016 Hi Pamela! I love the idea of this model in the monstrous 1/24 scale! My Battle Station is 1/24 and the potential for detailing his huge. My ultimate plan is to scratch-build the "Hannah" in that scale. I'll be following along. As to wood, holly for decking, rosewood for hatch coamings and some deck furniture, boxwood or yellow heart and bloodwood for bulwark plankings all can work. Cherry is a nice wood to work with also. I can't wait to see how this one comes out. Good luck and have fun! Landlubber Mike, Bill Hime, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #13 Posted October 20, 2016 I'll let the cat out of the bag...once this is done then the rattlesnake POF in 1/24. And then ultimately the frigate USS United States in the same 1/24 Yes I fully understand I am rattle can nuts...but hey ya only live once.....go big...or go home.....lol Pamela mtaylor, GuntherMT, Bill Hime and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 20, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 20, 2016 If you have the space, I personally think that bigger is better! Space is a very real issue for many though. mtaylor, Bill Hime and Canute 3 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted October 20, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 20, 2016 I purchased the Model Shipways CD that contains Dr. Feldman's original book on building the AVS (as well as "Fair American and another ship). Feldman's model is 3/8" scale, but I found it very useful in building my AVS in 1/48. It's worth the price for all the how-to's for scratch building this model. Here's a link: http://www.seaways.com/CAFCD.html Ryland Craze, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 2 others 5 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share #16 Posted October 20, 2016 Giggling......I live in a small studio.....but have essentially a 2 car garage to play with......also a museum and a 50,000 Sq ft manufacturing facility with lots of unused corners Pamela Canute, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted October 21, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Pamela, Best of luck to you. Like your enthusiasm! I too have started a build enlarging the POB II plans from 1:64 to 1:48 scale. I will be following along for sure! Question; What are you using to cut out all of your parts? And what will be your approach to replacing castings for your new scale? Sincere Regards, Bill Edited October 21, 2016 by Bill Hime mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted October 21, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 21, 2016 And what will be your approach to replacing castings for your new scale? Based on the scratch built models she has on display in The Miniature Engineering Craftsmanship Museum in Carlsbad, CA... My guess is she is just going to make everything from scratch and make us all drool. mtaylor, Jack12477, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #19 Posted October 21, 2016 That's kinda the idea....being this large not much in the way of "stuff" is available.. .so fabricating everything from scratch is really the only way Pamela Canute, Bill Hime and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted October 21, 2016 I bought some sample wood to play around with until the poplar and walnut come from Ocooch hardwoods. I got maple, birch, cherry They didn't have teak...I'll have to go elsewhere. Tomorrow I'm going to drag out the lil table saw and mess around ripping deck planks. Pamela zoly99sask, GuntherMT and Bill Hime 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Found teak.....holy crap. Smallest piece they had was 8'x5.5"x3/4".......cost 60 bucks. Took it to the museum and used the cross cut saw to cut off 24"... then the industrial table saw to rip that in half. Now it's manageable for my little one. Stuff smells funky.....oily.....gorgeous color. Pamela Grrr......need to figure out how to make images smaller than 2 meg Edited October 22, 2016 by PamW mtaylor, zoly99sask, Bill Hime and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 22, 2016 Share #22 Posted October 22, 2016 Teak? Yep.. very pricey and very lovely. To reduce the images, there's some freeware out there. If you're using Window, then Paint can handle that. Just do the "resize' function nd drop the image size down to 1600 X 1600 (not the file size as that will drop when the image is reduced to the forum parameters. zoly99sask, Canute and Jack12477 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #23 Posted October 22, 2016 There...I think Pamela tadheus, mtaylor, GuntherMT and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted October 22, 2016 I've cut 6 of those planks so far.......almost perfect. I'll finish ripping the 24"x1.5" piece down then figure out how wide they need to be. These will get mounted to the sub deck which instead of the basswood like in the kit....I still have a large piece of 1/16" aircraft plywood left over from a huge model airplane. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) This started out as 24"x6"x3/4".....just a Lil ways to go.....probably over 60.00 worth of thin planking right there Edited October 23, 2016 by PamW Canute, tadheus, zoly99sask and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) I ended up with 33 planks 3/4" wide 1/16" thick 24" long and 12 roughly 3/8" wide. Scale 9" wide plank is 3/8" in 1/24 And now my hands smell like teak.....lol. Edited October 23, 2016 by PamW Canute, zoly99sask and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 23, 2016 Share #27 Posted October 23, 2016 Not a bad smell then? I would hope you have enough planks... Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PamW Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share #28 Posted October 23, 2016 Smell is not bad at all....unique tho. Yes I am sure I have enough to do the main and quarter deck. Seeing the museum is closed today I can make the templates without interuption. The conference table is perfect for this. I was asked earlier what I use to cut everything.... you have seen my micro mark table saw....also a porter cable scroll....a rigid oscillating belt/post sander.....need to borrow or buy a small band saw to make rough sawing go quicker. Hoping to receive the walnut and poplar this coming week. Pamela Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 23, 2016 Share #29 Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) Poplar is available at hardware stores like Home Depot in standard board sizes. Then you can choose the color of the wood to stay away from the green. Bob Edited October 23, 2016 by Cap'n'Bob Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted October 23, 2016 Share #30 Posted October 23, 2016 Nice work on the planks. Teak has the same problem a lot of exotics do: oil and resin that might affect gluing. For rosewood, I sand pretty roughly the gluing surface and then wipe it down with a solvent - usually acetone. Here's a useful link: http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/gluing-oily-tropical-hardwoods/ captainbob, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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