jaerschen Posted May 5, 2014 #151 Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) That sounds good. It's always a pleasure to see interiority. Edited May 5, 2014 by jaerschen Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
kellrandy Posted May 8, 2014 #152 Posted May 8, 2014 Looking forward to the interior work as well! Your model is looking very nice. I've been working out the hawse frames, slow go for me. A week so far just on one side, lol. In response to your post in Daniel's log about the glue I use for my patterns, if you try it out, be careful at the store and don't get the one that's in the blue bottle, that's their permanent formula. I figured that out the hard way after I ran out of what my wife gave me. Look for the "re-positionable" formula.
the learner Posted May 13, 2014 Author #153 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I think I will stick to my glue stick or rubber cement. I scrape the patterns off when I get them close to shape and it seems to work ok. I am working on putting the gunport framiing in but all the frames are not in the proper places so there will be some padding up of the inside of the port to bring them near the correct size. The next time I will use the jig to do the framing will post some pictures next time Edited May 13, 2014 by the learner harvey1847 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
harvey1847 Posted May 14, 2014 #154 Posted May 14, 2014 Hello Guy! I was thinking that on my next project (who knows when...) I won´t use a jig... It is a pain on the neck. With the wales and the planking those gaps will be cover. Do not worry about it. I do know it is not the best way to build the model but... She is looking pretty well. Keep going. All the best. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
EdT Posted May 14, 2014 #155 Posted May 14, 2014 Guy, it appears I dropped the ball on your question of fillers between floor frames. I believe this was common practice to prevent water from stagnating between frames where it could not be reached by the chain pumps. I installedit up to the floor heads on Naiad. These fillers were driven in tightly and perhaps aided in resisting compressive hogging stresses inhe lower hull. I did not find a definitive original source for this. I would install them, butthe choice is always yours. Sorry for the delay with this. Ed 42rocker 1 All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory
the learner Posted May 14, 2014 Author #156 Posted May 14, 2014 Thanks Daniel! Ed, I understand why and I also wish the I had started using the fillers from the start as spacing of the frames on the keel would have been more accurate. It would be difficult now to start adding the fillers because of the many diffrent thicknesses. I will have to think long and hard on adding the fillers now. Guy Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
EdT Posted May 14, 2014 #157 Posted May 14, 2014 I agree, Guy, that the time to do this is during frame erection when they can be used as spacers. Doing it now would be a major job and I doubt that I would do it at this stage. Ed All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory
the learner Posted May 15, 2014 Author #158 Posted May 15, 2014 Thanks Ed! Thats how we learn! actually this build has been nothing but a learning experience for me, up to this point I have only built POB or Harold Hahn method and never have I constructed any decks below the main deck. watch out! I am catching up with you. Guy Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted May 15, 2014 Author #159 Posted May 15, 2014 (edited) I finally broke down and put in 2 mounting bolts (Like EdT's) through the keel....2? I hope that is enough, I can now tie down my Keelson and start constructing the lower decks. One of my Unimat lathe belts broke and I have no replacements and will have to order some, so I had to do the tie down bolts the old fashion way using my drill and a file. I did have a 4-40 die also I am not going to bury the nut in the keel but just let it set on top of it, the keel just seems too fragile. pictures to follow Guy Edited May 15, 2014 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted May 27, 2014 Author #160 Posted May 27, 2014 Still working on the temporary ribans, the gunports and will clean up the ends of the frames before I start internal works. Guy 42rocker, WackoWolf, Pete38 and 4 others 7 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
harvey1847 Posted June 26, 2014 #161 Posted June 26, 2014 Hello Guy! Nice Ribands! What is the measure of it in square? in mm please!... Happy modelling! In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted June 26, 2014 Author #162 Posted June 26, 2014 Harvey, Perhaps 4x4mm but I just pulled out what I had avaliable in my junk box as they are only temporary to hold the frames in place and will be removed once I have all the framing completed inside the hull. I am finishing up the gun ports and still have some fairing to do inside before I start on the internal framing Edt I wished I had installed the fillers I notice that I now have a little hogging perhaps after I installed the Keelson Guy harvey1847 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
SaturnV Posted June 27, 2014 #163 Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, I noticed that my Triton even with all of the things installed is still able to twist like a Twizzler candy strip in all directions. Gotta keep an eye on that as you go along. You may be able to force that out with the planking when the time comes. Your model does look good though. Keep up the progress! Meanwhile back at my project I am still sanding the outer part of the hull.... Richard
HIPEXEC Posted June 28, 2014 #164 Posted June 28, 2014 Your carpentry is a joy to look at! the learner 1 Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
the learner Posted July 7, 2014 Author #165 Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Thanks Rich! Richard, after I added the temporary rybands I was amazed on how rigid the entire structure became and I am sure it will become more rigid as I add the inside decking structure and I think I will be able to correct the (hogging) rising of the keel as its only in the stern fourth of the keel Still working on the gun ports and cleaning up the inside but I am making progress Guy Edited July 7, 2014 by the learner Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted July 22, 2014 Author #166 Posted July 22, 2014 Some updated pictures! still working on the gun ports and fairing the inside. The framing is starting to look a bit cleaner. This vessel has a very sharp entry as you can see by the picture. The starbord side gun ports are pretty much cleaned up and have started on the portside. Yes some of the frames are not square! harvey1847, MarisStella.hr, jaerschen and 4 others 7 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
Pete38 Posted July 22, 2014 #167 Posted July 22, 2014 Looks good to me. i am sure in the original that they were also off just a little. Planking goes along way to mask it. harvey1847 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
harvey1847 Posted July 23, 2014 #168 Posted July 23, 2014 Hello Guy! Saw your post yesterday... Yes some of the frames are not square! Can you slightly "move" some of them with wedges or something? The disaligment it´s pretty tiny... Maybe those temporary ribbans have tricked the frames a little bit out. She´s looking more and more rich every single post you add. Keep going! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted July 23, 2014 Author #169 Posted July 23, 2014 Daniel, yes as I fit the gunports I am making some adjustments but there will still be some that are not square. Pete, Thanks for the encouragement I have not decided yet how much planking I will do! most likely I will pick the worst side doing the most planking on that side. I was thinking about removing some of the filling frames to open the inside up for viewing. I just have for remember I am learning while doing! I can't wait until I start the decks inside! WackoWolf, mtaylor, druxey and 5 others 8 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted October 7, 2014 Author #170 Posted October 7, 2014 I am still here! The Triton has been put aside until I finish another project...will get back to it soon I hope! jaerschen 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
harvey1847 Posted October 8, 2014 #171 Posted October 8, 2014 We´ll be here around... good luck! Daniel. the learner 1 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
the learner Posted December 3, 2014 Author #172 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) I will deliver my project tomorrow and hopefully I can return to the Triton Before After A good cleaning, mast repair and relocation, new set of sail and rigging for this Art model!! Looks pretty good! No? Edited December 3, 2014 by the learner aviaamator, Mike Y, jaerschen and 2 others 5 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
SaturnV Posted December 5, 2014 #173 Posted December 5, 2014 Nice work Guy! It really did needs some love to bring it back. Hopefully you and I both can get back to the Triton as I was off too, but I was doing research. Looking forward to seeing you progress on your Triton. Richard jaerschen and mtaylor 2
the learner Posted December 10, 2014 Author #174 Posted December 10, 2014 Perhaps, with christmas comming up I am getting a lot of small jobs that at time can be a pain in the tush! mtaylor 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted June 1, 2015 Author #175 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Well Christmas has came an went but I am still clearing other stuff up an trying to finish up a 1812 gun boat will post some pictures on a diffrent post Patients all Edited June 1, 2015 by the learner mtaylor 1 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
AnobiumPunctatum Posted June 2, 2015 #176 Posted June 2, 2015 Don't hurry, model builders have normally a lot of patience. Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
the learner Posted August 27, 2015 Author #177 Posted August 27, 2015 I am back and ready to stat working ion the Triton again. am looking foward to progressing towards copletion. There are a few builds I also need to get back to that I have not been watching in the last 6 months that are fantastic builds starting with EdT build. mtaylor, Canute and mike0879 3 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
mike0879 Posted November 19, 2015 #178 Posted November 19, 2015 Keep up the good work. Hope to see more build logs. mtaylor 1 Current build Mare Nostrum W. Churchill Starting Projects Triton full build and creating a build log. Triton sectional build with build log. Future builds Cutty Sark, Sea Witch, Virginia pilot boat 1805, Sultana Colonial Schooner 1767.
the learner Posted December 10, 2016 Author #179 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Wow How time flies! Yes I have been working on the Triton but have aloso been working on other ship projects as I have 5 hulls in dry dock and perhaps a few other non ship related projects. The mother-in-law just passed away last month and the wife and I have been working on her house getting ready to put on the market some time in January. I am also getting ready to do my first hull coppering so looking forward to that. I will post some pictures on that but not here. Perhaps I can find a thread for that on the site. I also visited and joined the Mystic Group this last summer on a trip to an international stamp show in New York I look forward to returning to use the research facilities...I hear its fantastic! Cheers Edited December 10, 2016 by the learner tkay11, Canute and mtaylor 3 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
the learner Posted May 24, 2017 Author #180 Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Well Christmas has came went I got very little accomplished! In February my wife told me its time I retired then proceeded to hand me a new honey-do list, looks like I will be working on it until July or august.... well so much for retirement guys! P.S. she made me sell my truck and bought me a new car, I put in a good word for a Ford Edge and she agreed and promptly paid for it! Edited January 19, 2018 by the learner added ps AnobiumPunctatum, mtaylor and Canute 3 Cheers, GuyThe LearnerCurrent Member NRG,SMA Current Build: HMS Triton 1:48 on line
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