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I have fallen in love with the hull shape of these boats before knowing any story behind them.

There was a hull model in NYYC model room where I first came across it. Later found out what it was

but since I build kits only and there isn’t any of the sandbaggers, building one was sort of a dream.

Than several years later, a member of MSW, altalena18 started building one here and was kind enough

to share the info and some of his work with me. Finally I started my own build. When it comes to small boat models I tend to drift away from plans of a particular boat, let some imagination in as if I was building a real boat for myself. I also give them names after women in my family (so far grandma and daughter are already on the stern and name plate). This one will be named after my wife (for all she cares)

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Keel and frames were laser cut by Chuck Passaro from plywood (not sure if that would throw this build into kits category). Got them from Chuck way faster than I was ready to start.  Decided to paint the hull and leave the rest in bare wood so hull planking is bass wood for ease of working with. Rest of the boat will be done with boxwood, pear (swiss and my neighbors) and white holly. Some of the wood I got from Wood Project Source, got really great service for such small order.

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Posted

Hi Mitbok. 

 

What a top job you've done so far!  

 

I'm like you. I was also captivated by the hull shape of these boats and I followed Altalena's Build Log with great enthusiasm. 

 

I wish you well on completing Lana's journey. 

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Posted

Mitbok,

 

your sanbaggers hull looks very authentic, well done !

Are you going to fit a catboat rig or a sloop rig ?

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

 

Thank you guys!

I like both options and some sandbaggers had  two mast holes so rig could be changed.

I am thinking sloop rig although it will double models foot print.

 

Now working on planking the cockpit. Sidewall is made from boxwood veneer that was run through thickness sander

to get it paper thin. Planks are white holly. 

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  • 2 weeks later...
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What a beautiful boat and beautiful work. Those sandbaggers must have the prettiest lines of anything afloat.

 

Steve

completed models:

Shenandoah (Corel)

 

waiting on the shelf:

La Sirene (Corel)

Half Moon (Corel)

Puritan (Mamoli)

 

 

 

Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model."

Arthur: "Sshhh."

 

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Finally got the seat pillars going. Still require some tweaking but the process is finalized and steadily producing identical parts.

Took me several evenings of trial and error while the solution was in my reference files, downloaded from Russian forum a while ago.

 

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Cap rail for cockpit is done20170808_021047_resized.thumb.jpg.58c879cad4c016472c8ec3c8410778dc.jpg, has some problems but it's in place and I am going to go on to next step.... which is the seats.

Have not mentioned before but i am weathering the model with bitumen patina to give it an antique appearance.

Patina also brings out the detail.


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Posted

Hi

 

a beautiful craft & a really beautiful model. Thanks for sharing the pics. Amazing combination of beam & fine water entry, pity there's none sailing.

 

Mark

Posted

WUNDERBAR !  Mitbok,

 

awesome build

 

Nils

 

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

Thank you guys!

There is a reason why only a few of those are sailing now days.  Despite the fine lines and specious cockpit

sailing those things was far from leisurely. Compared to cars they would be something of a bolide racers - fast

but demanding and not easy to handle. They required an experienced crew which actually cost money back than.

Movable ballast consisting of sand bags had to be moved on each tack. Capsizing did happen, apparently often enough.

By the 1880's a cutter type boats where proving themselves as fast but much user friendlier craft. Sandbagger type racing

slowly transfered itself in dinghy racing that is still very well alive.

  • 3 weeks later...
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Rudder is now attachable, although tiller is yet to be attached. Can't figure out how the rode that secures gudgeons (no pintles on this one!) was

inserted or removed. Seems that tiller had to be removed first, something that will not be possible on the model. 

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Also working on some brass hardware for attaching rigging.

Cockpit floor that I made originally was to low and curviture of the hull protruded into the cockpit way more than on Annie.

So now I am reworking it by overlaying the old floor with thin ply and new decking on top. All that without removing seats! Ugh...

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Posted

love it Mitbok,

 

awesome build, an absolutely authentic "Sandbagger" boat, well done !

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

Hello Mitbok

 

Sorry I am so late finding this build. As you say, what a beautiful hull shape. The build quality is tremendous.

l liked the process for the seat pillars, I will copy that some time.

I see that the guard on the Byrnes saw is always in the up position. I wonder if anyone ever uses the saw with the guard down?

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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Thank you Tim!

I guess this guard is like a seat belt in the car... must be there for safety reasons.

I would love to ask Jim some questions about the saw. I got mine fully loaded of some

guy in Brooklyn and not sure what some of the blades it came with are fore.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Few more details..

could not find clear evidence for the cleat on top of traveler rail (if it is indeed a traveler as there are several of those rails).

It seems though something is there and seen it on another similar craft... so will let it be

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