Derek C Posted October 29, 2017 #1 Posted October 29, 2017 Hello Fellow MSW Members I am going to attempt the Cross Section for my next build , this will be my third wooden boat model .So with that being said , don’t expect a master piece as I am a true novice. It took me a week at least to try and figure out what wood and how much to purchase . I am sure I probably purchased more than needed but I figure what I don’t use on this build , I will someday on another I’m sure and to be honest some of what I ordered I didn’t plan on ordering but once I got on the site and started ordering, I couldn’t help it. Here is what I ordered: while I wait for my wood to arrive I have some teak and figured I’d play around and try my hand at building a cannon as I have never done one before . First I used a flashlight to trace the parts for the cannon, because I only printed on set and ran out of ink (well at least that’s what it’s telling me ,but seems like I just replaced the darn thing ) and didn’t feel like running to the store and I couldn’t talk the admiral into going. i placed the print down on the lens of the flashlight and put a piece of card stock over it and used a colored pencil to trace the plan, I use a color pencil to be able to see that I didn’t miss anything. With black ink or pencil the image and pencil lines make it hard to see. i then used exacto knife to cut out template. using a a small amount of glue I glued the templates to a piece of teak I had already previously prepared to the proper thickness. Using the scroll saw I cut out the templates in a general shape. I then used files, sanding blocks,and sticks to finish Then I cut out some bits to make the front and rear axle spindals that’s where I’m at for the day .I will continue to work on the cannons while I patiently wait for my wood order . I hope y’all will follow along on this adventure and help me out along the way Thanks Derek scasey88, Pete38, mtaylor and 7 others 10 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
alde Posted October 29, 2017 #2 Posted October 29, 2017 Great to see you starting this build and happy to have a front row seat. I have all my frames glued up and cut out on mine but it's been sitting a while. I'll pick it back up once the longboat is done. Derek C, mtaylor and Canute 3 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
mtaylor Posted October 30, 2017 #4 Posted October 30, 2017 I looks like a good plan, Dereck. And the cannon carriages look spot on. alde, Canute and Derek C 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Derek C Posted October 30, 2017 Author #5 Posted October 30, 2017 Thanks guys Climb aboard this trip is going to be a adventure for sure lol . Mark, thanks for the kind words I see in the download section you know your way around this ship ! Glad to have you aboard ,and any advice or criticism is greatly appreciated . Derek mtaylor, alde and Canute 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Jolley Roger Posted October 30, 2017 #6 Posted October 30, 2017 Nice to see some activity in the cross section department! I'm also planning on doing this build, so are watching your progress with interest. Have fun! Canute, mtaylor and Derek C 3 Samuel Pepys notes in his diary on 19 July 1667: "the Dutch fleets being in so many places, that Sir W. Batten at table cried, By God,says he, I think the Devil shits Dutchmen."
Pete38 Posted October 31, 2017 #7 Posted October 31, 2017 Welcome to the build, nice start to the project, looking forward to more Derek C, mtaylor and Canute 3 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Derek C Posted October 31, 2017 Author #8 Posted October 31, 2017 Thanks Pete glad to ave you aboard Canute and mtaylor 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 1, 2017 Author #9 Posted November 1, 2017 I got a notice from ups ...my wood will be here by wed next week . I haven't had much time this week but here's how the cannon is coming Slow moving but its moving alde, Tom E, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
alde Posted November 2, 2017 #10 Posted November 2, 2017 That looks like great workmanship. I can't wait to see you do with the hull. Tom E, Derek C, mtaylor and 1 other 4 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
Derek C Posted November 3, 2017 Author #11 Posted November 3, 2017 Messed around with some card stock paper and built a barrel for the cannon not sure I’m happy with it . Maybe after the wheels are done it will look better if not I will try again . Canute, Tom E, coxswain and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 5, 2017 Author #12 Posted November 5, 2017 Only a few more days until my wood order arrives and I can start building frames, but for now I started making the second cannon carriage today using the same technique except I printed a copy of the plan to cut out and use as a template this time . Clamping the two pieces together to ensure the pieces wouldl be identical as I filed and sanded to match the template. I also added wheels to the first cannon they are not complete yet but just trying to decide on the overall look . guess it looks ok what do the masses think 🤔 Derek Canute, Tom E, alde and 2 others 5 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 5, 2017 Author #13 Posted November 5, 2017 I finished one of the cannons I think the barrel looks ok , I will leave it alone and once I place it in its port I will make my final decision unless I hear otherwise from my fellow members Thanks for looking in Derek scasey88, Canute, alde and 1 other 4 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
mtaylor Posted November 6, 2017 #14 Posted November 6, 2017 Derek, I think it looks pretty good from here. If you have some scrap wood, mock up a deck section with a gunport and put into position. BTW, if you do the mock up, it makes a great jig for working on the gun rigging. Derek C, Canute and coxswain 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Derek C Posted November 6, 2017 Author #15 Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Thanks Mark , I will do that .I like the idea of the jig as well great tip thanks Derek Edited November 6, 2017 by Derek C Spelling Canute, coxswain and mtaylor 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 7, 2017 Author #16 Posted November 7, 2017 Mark do you know what gauge ropes I need for the rigging of the guns, I looked around and couldn’t find a reference on that. Thanks Derek Canute 1 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
mtaylor Posted November 8, 2017 #17 Posted November 8, 2017 Sorry Derek.... no idea on the gauge off the top of my head. Thought there was a set of plans for the guns and carriages. It might be on the plan? Here's a thought... go to the very end of this section and find the logs for UWEK and Scottacus. As I recall, they were pretty compete and detailed and for a long time UWEK's was the reference. Canute and Derek C 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
amateur Posted November 8, 2017 #18 Posted November 8, 2017 Speaking of Uwe, where and when did we loose him? Derek C, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4
Derek C Posted November 8, 2017 Author #19 Posted November 8, 2017 Thanks Mark ,I will do that Canute and mtaylor 2 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 8, 2017 Author #20 Posted November 8, 2017 When I got home from work today I was excited to see my wood had arrived I unpacked it and got It sorted . tomorrow when I get home I will start gluing down the templates for the frames and start on my keel, keelson and false keel. Mark I found UWEKs log , and I found some great info .thanks again for the tip . Derek MEDDO, mtaylor, Tom E and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
alde Posted November 9, 2017 #21 Posted November 9, 2017 Very nice. Now the fun begins. Canute, mtaylor and Derek C 3 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
mtaylor Posted November 9, 2017 #22 Posted November 9, 2017 20 hours ago, amateur said: Speaking of Uwe, where and when did we loose him? As I recall, his job started taking much of his time and then family. I'm hoping he's ok and that maybe we'll hear from him one of these days. Canute and Derek C 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Derek C Posted November 12, 2017 Author #23 Posted November 12, 2017 Shipyard was not very productive this week,work got in the way . But I did make a little progress I cut and shaped the keel. and i cut out the templates for the framing and started gluing them on a piece of 3/16 “x4”x24” red oak . i will finish gluing them them up today and start cutting them out on the scroll saw . I will wait to start gluing them until I go to the hardware store and pick up a few sheets of glass to ensure the frames are straight . thanks for looking in Derek Pete38, alde, Canute and 3 others 6 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 12, 2017 Author #24 Posted November 12, 2017 Today I did the keelson and false keel . The keel is made of red oak the false keel is blood wood,and the keelson is cherry. i also rough cut the frames , all at once . I will go back and trim them up and sand them down one section at a time starting with 5 and working my way to c . Not for any special reason just the heading I have chosen . sooooo many pieces lol let the fun begin Derek Pete38, Jolley Roger, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
alde Posted November 12, 2017 #25 Posted November 12, 2017 Nice progress so far. For a flat glueing surface I went to Lowes and picked up a 12" × 12" black marble tile. It's dead flat and less fragile than glass. mtaylor, Canute and Derek C 3 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
Derek C Posted November 12, 2017 Author #26 Posted November 12, 2017 Great tip alde, I think I will do that . Thanks Derek mtaylor, Canute and alde 3 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Derek C Posted November 14, 2017 Author #27 Posted November 14, 2017 I got #5 frame ready to glue and half way through #4 at this rate I may have them glued by the end of the weekend. mtaylor, Jolley Roger, Canute and 5 others 8 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
Jolley Roger Posted November 14, 2017 #28 Posted November 14, 2017 Great progress Derek! Keep em coming. Derek C, mtaylor and Canute 3 Samuel Pepys notes in his diary on 19 July 1667: "the Dutch fleets being in so many places, that Sir W. Batten at table cried, By God,says he, I think the Devil shits Dutchmen."
Derek C Posted November 17, 2017 Author #29 Posted November 17, 2017 Just a quick update I have 4 of the 9 frames cleaned up and ready to glue not as much progress as I hoped this week,work was relentless glad the weekend is here so I can finish cleaning up the frames and hopefully start gluing them all together so I can start sanding again lol Derek Pete38, alde, Canute and 1 other 4 Derek C Quote A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle Current Build 18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda" Finished Builds Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways 18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans
alde Posted November 17, 2017 #30 Posted November 17, 2017 Frames look nice so far. Sometimes I think our primary hobby is sanding with a little ship modeling thrown in now and then. Derek C, mtaylor and Canute 3 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
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