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Wow Derek,

 

You are going fast!

I have some questions:

  1. I have the impression that you made de keel a bit shorter at one side of the model. Is there a reason for?
  2. You made the notches for the carlings over the whole thickness of the deck beams. The carlings are thinner than the deck beams. Wouldn't it be better to make smaller notches in which the carlings can be laid?

Many regards,

G.L.

 

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Thanks for the inquiries G.L.

I cut the keel ,false keel 3/16 shorter to better show how the frames set in place . And the notches cut all the way through the main deck beam is purely a oversight. I did not realize that the Carlings where thinner.:default_wallbash: Guess I will have to try to repair or toss them and start over . I try to follow the plans a bit ahead of what I’m working on but for some reason I couldn’t find info on the thickness of the carlings or I overlooked them . Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Now that the holidays are over , here is where I’m at on my build . 

I decided to scrap those deck beams and make new ones , after G.L. got me back on track .3FAFFA95-909F-4B6E-A395-C2B7D5D6F2EA.thumb.jpeg.a751d2c5bfa860c6228fe1564b25abd6.jpeg3878F475-4229-4E13-98BF-DF1878C30CDA.thumb.jpeg.e29cf205dc85a19912f5826178f8bda2.jpeg

 

then s started cutting the and dry fitting the other pieces for the lower deck 43A319D7-5AFE-4B7D-B2DA-7A45BBC9A7BF.thumb.jpeg.850c00ea575984277a009d8f9d9e409a.jpeg

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Thats where I’m at so far . I have quite a bit more pieces to install, but with the holiday season moving on I should have a bit more time to dedicate to my build.

 

Thanks for looking,and hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year.

 

Derek

 

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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I am slowly making progress on the lower deck cutting and notching each piece as I go I should be adding planks soon .C5CE0387-5834-4E78-9DF6-F379D244F9A5.thumb.jpeg.5ca871e32024a0e40c83817b7c292f82.jpegD8A86FEF-4C7F-467A-8058-2ED0F8F955DA.thumb.jpeg.d0a019b7194f78918042bf404ec88dbc.jpeg52771CB2-A280-4C3B-891E-9C88F6E51EE2.thumb.jpeg.bf692155ec367851041c8e5271e597a5.jpeg2495E253-BD58-4EED-9697-AF058AB13C00.thumb.jpeg.bca53aa0fd9619ba3b8185ab2b11d139.jpeg6DB2523D-DEB5-4427-A961-312BDE50BAAA.thumb.jpeg.a53c64a97b5f6b3f70451b1c4b01b46e.jpego will be using a nice white aspen for the planking. 

 

Thanks for looking in :pirate41:

Derek

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Thanks G.L. I appreciate that .

 

I have finished the lower deck . And added a coat of  clear poly to the underside and half the top side , leaving the side that I’m planking bare. I have not glued it in place yet . I want to set the center support beams in first then I will glue it in .here is a few pictures pics of how she is looking.

 

The First two are without the poly.

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The next two are with the poly I tried to get a shot of the under side while it sat in place ....I’m no photographer :default_wallbash:

 

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Next will  be the supports ,

Thanks for checking on my progress. :pirate41:

Derek

 

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Thanks Tom

lol "spider web" I didn't think I'd ever get that deck done , next one should go a bit smoother and  no mast on this cross section..

Derek

 

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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I made the center supports for the lower deck  the plans showed square post , but I like the looks of the way G.L.  did his , so I knocked off the corners starting from  1/4 “ in from both ends. CA4112FE-0F1E-4C15-BCB3-13839F7787A4.thumb.jpeg.f0bb387720a2e5da3cb82c87a3202141.jpeg

 

and i I drilled the ends to slide in my pegs .

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Then I drilled holes in the bottom side of the lower deck and keelson  and assembled and glued down the lower deck . That felt like a milestone lol .

 

While I wait for the glue to dry I started cutting out pieces for the Main Sheet bits. First I cut blood wood to the desired size and sanded it to the final demensions shown on plan. I then used a coping saw and files to cut my notchesAC623382-08E3-478C-8622-CAA6E89334C4.thumb.jpeg.5fa965cefb8ce99a2be76fb055a3978f.jpegAC623382-08E3-478C-8622-CAA6E89334C4.thumb.jpeg.5fa965cefb8ce99a2be76fb055a3978f.jpeg4436295A-5E5B-4FEB-A221-8F69D529D447.thumb.jpeg.ff0151046a7b3d4e6c1c5cbaf816320d.jpeg

 

Using a drill press I drilled the spots for the sheaves as Tony K and G.L . did in there logs.

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Now that the glue has dried and I have removed the clamps here is a few pictures of how she is looking.

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Thanks for looking in on my build.

:dancetl6:

 

Derek  C

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Looking very good, Derek.  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Good afternoon friends

This week I worked on the planking for the lower deck . I cut out the pieces I needed from the aspen, and then using the technique I used earlier in the log .stacked them in the vise and sanded ,until all of them were  uniform . I then used a wood burning pen to darken the edges to simulate the caulking. 

I was then ready to start laying out the planks and marking them up .

i used the example that G.L. Posted in his cross section log.

Here is a few pics to show how she is looking.5238A8BC-5702-4B6B-9A1F-7CC026E776B0.thumb.jpeg.e6ee0e0f1b22f1bb9ee6ab022c3acbc6.jpeg8377C0CC-4C81-4A1C-8BF6-5D318A35894E.thumb.jpeg.c89d3053ee69ff2260a26d5e222d8192.jpeg92ACBC45-54C8-4D69-99F6-1B6B155DEAEC.thumb.jpeg.9a3203a532455676a4bab0f3d53eaecd.jpeg54C22275-F057-49B0-B15F-ABBD539A4E17.thumb.jpeg.3f7fe5829e96b4c3ed2090424f2bf619.jpeg0A20D851-554D-416F-BCD8-3541B943B3F1.thumb.jpeg.5ac9be46b25ef3a66653e5c02afe6700.jpegBD1EC76C-B105-4EEC-9AD3-CAD12F497176.thumb.jpeg.8bfa4b92aa24d0c424db2e39dd9d6c2b.jpeg

 

I personally am not 100% happy with the way the lower deck turned out and will hopefully get better results on the gun deck .This first deck was definitely a learning experience.

 

Thanks for looking in on my build 

:10_1_10:

Derek C

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Today I worked on the Wales I got one side done hopefully get the other side done tomorrow. I made the Wales from walnut. Here is a few pics of how they turned out.

 

 

Thanks for checking in .

 

Derek C

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

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I did manage to get the other side Wales done and mounted and started on the gun deck . I got a good amount of it dry fit . I hope to be able to get the rest fit and get it sanded and glued together over the coarse of the week. Here are a few pics of how she is looking at this stage of the build .8AD2169D-7ED3-4871-8376-2B7A0C515774.thumb.jpeg.bc34cc9209670c6989d27850d96acf2d.jpeg02FB0CA7-0292-49D6-89CB-09CDE210BB3D.thumb.jpeg.a784576f54c19a7ad74bb89c22264171.jpegD75E5974-CD01-46CD-A5F9-5253BB8F6C90.thumb.jpeg.3147ee007968c32a85c71cfc0a180d08.jpeg53776177-61E8-46F6-9755-F34E58FC6100.thumb.jpeg.f8e9a2b44d1b96e7c4e904a55744015c.jpeg8AD2169D-7ED3-4871-8376-2B7A0C515774.thumb.jpeg.bc34cc9209670c6989d27850d96acf2d.jpeg8A1A694F-C178-4F6A-B675-A562FF0A633E.thumb.jpeg.b2e73e3ce37155c889aaf6703704cfc0.jpeg

 

Thanks for checking out my progress 

:pirate41:

Derek C

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

Current Build

 

18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

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Good evening everyone 

i did not have much time or success in the shipyard this week. Work kicked my butt , and I worked  on the hanging knees for the lower deck and they kicked my butt as well :default_wallbash:. I needed 8 hanging knees and must have made at least a dozen or more and would break them while sanding to get the final shape . Here is a pile of failures.D2513043-33FC-4CB2-9BEE-95502059C316.thumb.jpeg.09c6fabb71e3d19ac10beaf83718af62.jpeg

 I eventually got them done and glued in here is a pic of them installed.B8991363-B92A-4EF9-855C-7888C49AA45F.thumb.jpeg.ac9f4f46e23a008be46c643b0217166e.jpegB4C557F6-5788-4FE7-9B4F-184514F13951.thumb.jpeg.d3a94420037d681ee640c0237a96edd8.jpeg

 

Then I cut some pieces of blood wood to make the center support columns for the gun deck.

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using files I cut and shaped my column to a rough shape .

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i then  used sanding sticks to get my finished support beam.

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Here is a few pics of how the cross section  is looking .

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hope you  like her thanks for looking in

 

Derek C

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

Current Build

 

18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

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Hate it when that work thing gets in the way!

A bad day at work, and I tend to stay away from the Shipyard. I would break more things than create.

I really like how there's still some light reaching the inner areas of the boat.

It really shows off the detail.

 

She is looking awesome!

 

Tom E 

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Another busy week , I looked forward for today , I knew The admiral and I had no plans for the day so I spent all day in the shipyard . It helps me to forget about the prior weeks stress . 

 

Today I did final sanding of the gun deck and built the frame work for the gun ports. I cut thin pieces of blood wood to use on the sides to connect the gun port sills and lintels .40DF1AC4-5B1C-41F2-AB15-F170A8B05C7D.thumb.jpeg.94eaec437fa512038330cda9a731cb7f.jpeg

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after i I got them all built I started to install them 

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i laid some of the outside planking down and set a cannon to see how it fit .7875633E-1F07-4719-B291-F5E01328B95C.thumb.jpeg.3d26be23440a533012e42e3e68fa7af8.jpeg4D11ABD7-73D9-40A9-AB48-B1BC1BF0AC40.thumb.jpeg.822df97878f46fbf3e8b781606a822d2.jpeg5F37FB42-FC45-41DB-95D2-7E5BBE0F5002.thumb.jpeg.cab8406158e12baa1ae8fe574798a19d.jpeg

 

i liked the the fit so I glued two of them in on the side getting the planking and then I finished the outside planking around the gun ports.

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i hope you you like my progress,and thanks for looking in .

Derek C

 

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

Current Build

 

18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

Finished Builds

Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

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Derek,

 

I posted the reports for my cross section by mistake in your log. I erased them again, therefore you see some empty boxes. My excuses for that!

 

G.L.

 

 

 

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lol G.L no worries 

 

 

Derek C

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

Finished Builds

Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

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Today I worked on planking the gun deck . I used the same technique. That I used on all the other planking . Cutting my strips a bit larger than needed with a razor knife, then clamp them all together  and sand them down until they reach the desired size and they are uniform . I then burned the edges to simulate the caulking .

i them proceeded to glue them down . Once the glue cured I did my tree nailing . I also got another gun port installed , I would have gotten both installed but I broke one of my assembled gun piers and had to make another.

 

here is how she’s looking 

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Thanks for checking her out.

 

Derek C

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

Current Build

 

18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

Finished Builds

Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways

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Lol I only have half the cross section to plank you did the whole thing and your parts are twice the size = twice the sanding lol

Derek C

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Good Evening 

Today I worked on a few items I had a productive day in the the shipyard. I got the forward stairs done, also finished planking the inside of the gun deck . I built and installed the cap for the forward stairs. Here is how she’s looking 632551E4-5BE7-4E6C-8D3C-05EAC0758145.thumb.jpeg.df21751ba391f0c47fef3afe71ec674a.jpegA72F60F6-CFD1-4087-8D6A-16B1D6DC7EF7.thumb.jpeg.2b2dd059c207d4405c0124035f343137.jpegDCA5555D-ADF0-4ABB-9030-8545419AE51A.thumb.jpeg.39816ced639a8ce57843fc5f88de67f7.jpeg12DD426C-05A8-4D06-89D2-C9B3CAA4F848.thumb.jpeg.18e571ea075509ea10dc6e1d48beccdb.jpeg97E42C88-95CD-4EB0-B09E-86D904FD629D.thumb.jpeg.5701f7761a798615e068a0d2aaefb07f.jpeg62B5FA12-102A-43C0-80D6-39A4911B3D48.thumb.jpeg.46ed3eb13f72ca849eb705e49a56e952.jpegD238F711-7633-4064-B792-7A51BF124701.thumb.jpeg.f032081296d56b746003a6d43fb1dea3.jpeg

Hope you like her and thanks for looking in.

Derek C

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A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder --Thomas Carlyle

 

 

Current Build

 

18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

Finished Builds

Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways

18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans

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She's looking great!

 

You've kind of changed my mind about cross sections. Never paid much attention to them until your log.

With Chuck(Syren) talking about developing a cross section my interest has been peaked.

 

Don't think I could do a scratch build yet like you have.

I still need a kit to guide me.

But I would most certainly bash it up with some of the woods you have used.

 

Tom E 

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Thanks Tom I appreciate the compliment. If you take your time and think it through it’s  very enjoyable doing a scratch build . I think you could do it . The wood was the hardest part for me . I had never had to think about the different woods before and had to use google a great deal to figure out what wood looked like what and then try to envision it on the boat . The Cross Section is very well drawn out this is only my second scratch build and have only had a few issues that confused me . It’s great for a beginner like myself. .

I was fortunate enough that G.L was working on his cross section at the same time just a bit ahead of me . Him and his log helped me out a lot .

Derek C

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18th Century Whaling Vessel "Lagoda"

 

 

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Triton Cross Section by Derek C 1/48 

18th century longboat by Slideways - FINISHED - Model Shipways

18th century longboat by sideways from MS plans

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