Hannah by jct - FINISHED - somewhere between 1/72 ish and 1/60 ish scale

[russ]

Your rudder looks pretty good, as does the deck planking.

 

One option for the inner bulwarks could be a dark red color. That is commonly seen on models of this period. 

 

Russ

[jct]

Thx Russ...I think that's what I'm going to go with...the red on the paint stick is way to bright...I'll have to brown it up a bit but that is just some trial and error, THX again for your support and suggestions, much appreciated 

[jct]

Thanks for commenting and hitting the like button...just a short update...deck planking is done, details and pics tomorrow (told ya it was short)

[jct]

Updates...deck planking is completed...

20-20 hindsight I would have been better off if I had planked the deck prior to planking up the wales and then trimming it to size...trimming up to the margin plank was a pita...the deck still needs sanded down to 220 grit then it will be stained with natural stain, just want it to look like an oil finish

 

The rail tops were fashioned...

this is heavy card stock hardened with a coat of ca...it will receive a light sanding and a thin coat of putty prior to prime and paint...these were originally going to be 1/32nd basswood but I butchered it so bad, trying to get a uniform width, it was unusable.  Figured since it's gonna get painted anyway card stock should be fine

 

The trim under the hand rails was added, nothing dramatic here just thin strip...

still needs sanding in this shot, the edges will be rounded a bit to break the edge, also added primer to the bottom...just a test to see how well the puttied sections were blended, many more coats and sanding ahead.

thx for the likes and taking the time to comment

[jct]

a few little odds and ends today...the deck is stained and has one coat of water based poly applied...

dressed out the side trim with little bits of putty, still needs fine sanded

then added the sweep ports, just file work here

and added frames to the gunports

and finally created and mounted the hawse hole reinforcing boards to the bow

Thanks for the likes and comments

[russ]

Your deck came out very nicely. The alternating colors in the strips looks good to my eye. Well done. 

 

Russ

[jct]

Thanks Russ

[jct]

Thanks Wallace

[popeye the sailor]

she's look'in better and better     totally agree with Russ....flat is the only way to go.   it add realism and in some cases,  age.   I totally missed the deck........very nice work there as well  

Edited January 4, 2019 by popeye the sailor
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[jct]

Hey Denis,  thanks...flats are definitely the way this will be finished, if not is the pigment then in the poly overcoat...

while I'm here a couple more pics to add, you will note as this log progresses I have a tendency to jump around a bit as I build...keeps me from getting bored and it all has to get done eventually

 

Started working on the windlass...laid out the hexagon on a dowel

carved and sanded...

and started cutting in the cogs...

then, abandoned it for a while to add the anchor slide boards to the hull...

these were gonna be separate planks bent laterally into a gently curve...ya right, didn't work some good...so I cut a single piece and will score the board separations into it to resemble 3 separate boards...you can also see a fubar on the hawse boards in this shot, drill slipped, so some fill was called for, holes were re-drilled in a slightly different location, pic tomorrow...also drilled a hole at the stern for the rudder to pass through, didn't take a pic of that...it's just a hole.

 

Thanks to all for the likes and comments...much appreciated 

 

[GrandpaPhil]

Looking good!  Keep at it!

[jct]

48 minutes ago, GrandpaPhil said:

Looking good!  Keep at it!

Thanks Phil...will do

[jct]

a slight correction...well actually a rather large one, and that is with the scale of this build...I was reviewing Hahn's colonial schooners book and could not help but notice the size difference in his drawings and my build...my Hannah is longer at the keel by a factor of 1.2 which would bring the scale up to 1/60, as the book plans are drawn to 1/72.

 

When I check the measurement against the plan pdf in my files it measures out to a length of 1/60th scale, but the width is a bit narrow, so it lies somewhere between 1/72ish and 1/60ish.  I am at a loss as to how it happened in the first place...I used adobe and reduced the plans by a factor of .75 which should have given my the 1/96 scale I was looking for and printed them actual size, well at least I thought I did, it never occurred to me at the time to back check so here we are

 

So in conclusion some of the model is 1/60th and some isn't, what it definitely is not is 1/96, thus the scale change in the title...I'm not too concerned at this point because the proportions still look fine, and everything from here out will be built according to plans I have scaled up to the actual size of the hull.  It is what it is...

Edited January 5, 2019 by jct

[jct]

This doesn't seem to have been a good weekend for my Hanna build... I wanted to get the inner bulwarks painted before adding any detail...disaster, I had applied a coat of primer Friday morning (the infamous Model Shipways paint) only to find that the primer still had not cured by Sunday morning.  Unfortunately this became apparent after a second color coat was applied, everything turned into a thick gummy mess, primer leaching through to the surface in sections, runs in others, just a mess.  Striping the paint is next to impossible because of the closeness of the stanchions, so out they came...

this is all gonna be sanded back to as close natural wood as I can get it, at that point I'll make the decision to either apply paint of replace the inner planks...I'm leaning towards the latter at this point.   While all this mess was going on I took the opportunity to mix some Red Ochre or Ocher, which ever you prefer...Took MS bulwark/gun red added a bit of black and a touch of yellow, you can see the result in the circle below

Seems about right to me, thoughts?   No primer is going on the hull from this point on...seems the only time I have issues with MS paint is when I primer the surface, I've applied it over raw wood a number of time with no issues...oh well, as I'm recently retired time is a commodity I can spare, I'll post pics of the resurrection as she goes.  As always thanks for your time and attention as well as the comments and likes  

[Cuda1949]

I feel your pain. I know how it feels to be ready for the next step and find out that  two steps ago something is wrong. Hang in there. I too am retired so hang in there and enjoy the build.

 

That being said I am enjoying your build. I built the Hannah as a ship in bottle several years ago. I started the build in 1998 and finished in in 2014. I had nothing but problems with the build and would put it aside for six moths or a year and then bring it back until the next problem reared its ugly head. LOL finally finished it and put in the bottle all end well eventually. 

 

Oh Fly Eagles Fly

Edited January 7, 2019 by Cuda1949

[jct]

Thanks for the words of encouragement Cuda... I'll be sure to check out your Hanna, glade you are enjoy the build, I am as well, set backs and all...they just go with the turf   more to add today...got all the bulwarks stripped, scrapped, and sanded to 220

and two coats of color added...new stanchions will be added next

and finished the barrel of the windlass

once the center cogs were shaped the holes were drilled and squared up with a 16 penny finish nail, not sure if this piece will be painted or left natural and urethaned...the cheeks and cogs will definitively be painted. 

[jct]

THX Wallace, I'll will eventually beat it into submission

[jct]

Today's update, all the bulwarks are complete and the stanchions re-installed...

Wrong point o focus here!!

With that done I moved on the the ships boat, I've looked high and low for options here and came across the technique that follow's in JerseyCity Frankie's Niagara build log,(   https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/18188-us-brig-niagara-by-jerseycity-frankie-model-shipways-scale-164-as-modern-sail-training-ship-of-today/) he describes this technique for scratching out a clinker hull, my attempt follows...

 

After finding a suitable boat to use as a buck it was covered very tightly with saran wrap, this acts as a barrier and allow the new hull to release, you then use white glue and start to lay up strips of card, I'm using super tacky craft glue and 1/16 strips of manila folder

the layup continues

until one side is complete

it is then set aside to dry, once dry it was trimmed

this process was completed for the other side of the hull, when it was dry they were separated from the buck and underlying saran wrap

some final trimming was done

and the transom glued in place and ca run along the bottom of the hull

while this assembly dried, a keel was cut from double card stock

and then applied

and here is the finished rough hull

Frankie does a much neater job then I did, but all I wanted was the basic shape to work with as I planned to smooth the hull all along, putty is your friend

and here is a shot of the sisters together

they're both rough at this point, but that is only temporary, paint is just around the corner.  All in all I think it went well and want to thank Frankie for sharing.Thanks for your time and attention and for the like and comments

 

 

[GrandpaPhil]

Great way to scratch build a ship’s boat! 

[jct]

Thanks Wallace...Its a good technique, you will need a good buck though...thanks to all who've taken the time to hit the like button or comment...I did manage to get something done today (aside from reminiscing with Popeye about old Funny Cars )

 

Finished the ships boat, short of paint, added some detail to the inside, just a bit as most of it will be covered anyway,  and built a rudder and some oars

Edited January 10, 2019 by jct
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[popeye the sailor]

...and it was enjoyable too    I left space in my log for yours when they're finished     nice save with your project........I never seal my wood either.  as for the scale........I've had kits that were all over the place....the Thermopylae is a prime example.   you soldiered along splendidly......also doing very well with the ship's boat     she's look'in good.........great recovery!   

[jct]

LOL...OK you may just prompt me to finish them, at least one for now...I hear ya I'm not sure what it is with MS primer, sure made a mess though, thanks again

[popeye the sailor]

I do prime my wood.......but check and see if it also seals the wood.  depending on the type of paint too,   makes a difference.   I mainly stick with enamels and lacquer........they do work well together.  I recently got a good deal on paint,  so a future build will be painted with white ensign paint..I've never tried it before,  but I've heard that it's a very good paint.  MS.......Model Shipways?........never used it either,  so I'm not sure.   anything that has to do with stains......you really want to seal afterwards.....stains need bare wood to be effective.

[jct]

Ya MS is model shipways

[jct]

HI All, I haven't updated the log for a while...I've taken a bit of a brake from the Hanna build for a couple reasons...firstly the shop was flooded from a catastrophic water heater failure...things were at snorkel depth there for a while but all is well and drying out now...will still be a few days/week till I can get everything sorted and back in order.

 

  No fear the Hanna build will continue... so while I wait I'm finishing an old Funny Car I started about 15 plus yrs ago,

inspired by Popeye's build https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19775-revell-revellution-funny-car-116-scale-by-popeye-the-sailor/,

,

 

Thanks for your time and attention

Edited January 22, 2019 by jct
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[popeye the sailor]

I'm flattered that your bringing something out of mothballs on account of 'lil 'ol me    I would suggest though,  that you post it where I have my car build.   folks might get distracted from the Hannah.   it appears that you did away with the chrome.....I think it looks better     I hope your planning to post it........looks like you were off on a very good start.

[jct]

Yep chrome is gone, been toying with the idea of a log..., have a few pics...

[jct]

1 hour ago, jct said:

Yep chrome is gone, been toying with the idea of a log..., have a few pics...

Here's the link to the Mustang log for those interested https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/19936-lew-arringtons-brutus-funny-car-in-124/

[src]

J! I found you, you cant hide from me.

Looking good, that ships boat sure is small, next your going to be joining the PE crew.

Sam

[jct]

Hey Sam...good to hear from you...believe it or not I think I'm gonna redo the boat...it's to big for the deck...