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Posted
8 minutes ago, Wallace said:

Funny, I was going to mention her just sitting there :)

Happy Christmas Phil and may I take this opportunity to wish you and yours a peaceful and healthy New Year. 

Merry Christmas Mark and a Happy New Year!

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Posted

Thank you very much, I’m learning as I go.

 

I think that after I sand the hull smooth, I’m going to attach the wales and apply the second layer of planking, along with planking the inside of the bulwarks.

 

Then I’ll apply the gunport and sweep port pattern and cut the bulwarks to shape.

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1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted
On 12/15/2018 at 11:45 AM, GrandpaPhil said:

Quick question, what’s the best way to install a transom on a card model?

 

Should I just build up the stern frames like any other model, or just glue it to the stern after installing the deck and covering the hull?

Hi,

 

I would say it depends on the transom itself. In my Mayflower I used the transom piece itself and attached/glued it to the main frame like the other frames. It was hold in place with the horizontal frame parts and the hull sides itself. If the part is small like in your model, maybe you can scratch build some additional frame parts in the back, similar to the shipyard paper models? I will post some pictures tomorrow.

 

Your approach regarding the bulwarks sounds quite right to me.

 

Paper and card are always so much softer than wood and plastic, but your model comes along nicely! Looking forward to seeing more!

 

Rgds,

Radek

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Wallace said:

That looks like it is going to be a nice strong hull Phil. A question for you - what are the masts going to be made of? I was thinking, it being a card model, they would be rolled card? I have never done one of these and enquiring minds would like to know sir.   

I’m going to make them from wood.  This is just going to be mostly card, but it will also have brass wire, copper tape and some wood parts.

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Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Shortly before christmas I studied the fold out plans my self. Best gratulations to choose these prototype and to start this wunderful project. 

I'm highly intetested to see more of your next steps and taking me a chair adding the gathering around your workbranch.

"Let's add every day 1/2 hour of

modelship building to our

projects' progress..."

 

 

Take care!

Christian Heinrich

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simple, true and inpretentious motto of ROYAL LOUIS, 1668

Sunking's mediter. flagship most decorated ocean-going ship 

 

Ships on build:

SAINT PHILIPPE, 1693: 

1st rang French 90-gun ship - Lavente flagship (based on Heller SR - 1/92 & scratch in 1/64) 

TONNANT, 1693: 

1st rang French 90-gun ship - sister of SAINT PHILIPPE (mock-up/test-object for S.P. - scratch in 1/64) 

 

Projects in planing:

L'AURORE, 1766:

French Pleasure Corvette (after Ancre plans - scatch in 1/64)

Some Spantaneous Short Term Projects

 

Posted

So far, so good.  The second sanding is done and I think the hull is about ready for the second layer of planking, after I fix a few minor issues.

 

 I just traced and resized the rudder, bulwarks and deck, so I have my templates made.

 

I need to cut down the bulwarks, so I can finish the stern and attach the transom, and wales, before I add the second layer of planking.

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1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Hi,

 

Regarding the transom:

 

Here are some pictures how I built the stern in my Mayflower, which is of course different than your ship, because it is a galeon. Nevertheless, some of my techniques how to tackle this problem in paper/card modeling.

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And here’s a link to how Shipyard models are dealing with the problem, as demonstrated by DORIS and her HMS VICTORY:

 

http://www.papirove-modely.cz/velkynahled/52372

 

Here’s still a link to a great paper modeler community:

 

http://www.papermodelers.com/

 

Grüssle ausm Allgäu!

 

Radek

Posted

Thank you very much, Mark!  

 

I’m looking forward to seeing how this turns out.  This is my first scratch build, in a medium that I’m not the greatest with, so this is going to be interesting, lol.

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Posted

I cut the bulwarks to shape and attached the transom.  I also closed up the gaps on the stern and cleaned up the underdeck a little.  I’m going to lay down another underdeck piece on top of it, after planking and coppering the hull, to make everything even and lay down planking on top of that.

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1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted

Thanks for all comments and all the likes!

 

This has definitely been a learning process for me, but the best way to get better is to exceed your abilities!

 

 I just installed the wales.  The Prince de Neufchatel is starting to look like a ship!

 

I have also drawn out the cradle and applied the pattern to a sheet of basswood.  I traced the hull shape at bulkheads D and 7, off the body plan, to get the inside shape, then I just hand drew the outside of the cradles. Then I folded the tracing paper over and reflected the cradle at the centerline.

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Posted

I made a display base today.  The actual base is a premade piece of wood that I picked up at a yard sale this past summer.  The cradle pieces I made out of 1/4” (6mm) thick basswood.  I decided to do a little carving on them, just having fun (which is the whole point of this project anyway).

 

 The model is mounted off-center to allow for the bowsprit.  I actually chose the mounting points based off of the model of the Prince de Neufchatel in the Smithsonian (I found a picture on their website).  I am also going to use their color scheme.

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Posted

I only planked down to the waterline because I am using contact paper for my second planking and the hull is going to be coppered below the waterline.  Unlike a conventional second planking, the contact paper doesn’t add any thickness to the hull, so there is no reason to plank all the way down.

 

I just sealed the hull in preparation for painting.  I am going to base coat it black above the waterline.

 

After it dries, I will copper the hull below the waterline.  I am going to use copper tape and a pounce wheel, just like I did on the Victory.

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Building:

1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)

Posted
2 hours ago, Omega1234 said:

Nicely done, Phil. 

 

It’s oh so satisfying when it all comes together, isn’t it. 

 

Cheers. 

 

Patrick

Thank you.  Yes, it is an awesome feeling when it all comes together.

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1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit)

1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

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