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I am wanting to scratch build a pinnace and longboat for my Pegasus. 

 

I like the Pinnace from Model Shipways that Blue Ensign built for his Pegasus and would like to make one myself along with a Model Shipways longboat (both a a reduced scale).

 

The question I have is: is it possible to purchase just the plans for them? as i will need to reduce the scale to suit Pegasus.

 

Thanks Guys

 

Caroline

First Completed Build: San Francisco (Original Version)

Current build: Victory Models HMS Pegasus

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The AOTS Diana book has plans for all the boats that you could copy and change to the scale you need

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Paul 

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Hi Caroline

Assuming you are building the 16 gun sloop of Pegasus 1776, according to what I can find in W.E. May's Boats of War, she would have carried a 19 foot longboat and 26 foot pinnace, although in 1777, 16's of more than 300 tons were given an extra 18 foot four oared cutter.  Does this sound right for your model?   Please keep in mind that you cannot necessarily just change the scale of a drawing to the size  that you need without making alterations.  For example, if the drawing you use is a 28 foot 16 oared longboat, when scaling to a 19 foot long boat, the number or size of the benches. number of oars, and other parts are not necessarily to be scaled.  Even the shape is likely to be wrong when just scaling as the proportions of breadth to length vary for shorter or longer boats.  For example, the proportion of length to breadth of a 32 long boat of about 1800 is 3.36 while for a 19 foot long boat the proportion is only 2.68.   They are similar but slightly larger proportions given in Mays for 1745 as well, 3.45 for a 32' long boat for example. 

Cheers

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Thanks for the replies guys. I have some plans now. 

 

6 hours ago, allanyed said:

Hi Caroline

Assuming you are building the 16 gun sloop of Pegasus 1776, according to what I can find in W.E. May's Boats of War, she would have carried a 19 foot longboat and 26 foot pinnace, although in 1777, 16's of more than 300 tons were given an extra 18 foot four oared cutter.  Does this sound right for your model?   Please keep in mind that you cannot necessarily just change the scale of a drawing to the size  that you need without making alterations.  For example, if the drawing you use is a 28 foot 16 oared longboat, when scaling to a 19 foot long boat, the number or size of the benches. number of oars, and other parts are not necessarily to be scaled.  Even the shape is likely to be wrong when just scaling as the proportions of breadth to length vary for shorter or longer boats.  For example, the proportion of length to breadth of a 32 long boat of about 1800 is 3.36 while for a 19 foot long boat the proportion is only 2.68.   They are similar but slightly larger proportions given in Mays for 1745 as well, 3.45 for a 32' long boat for example. 

Cheers

Allan     

Yes, that is more or less what I am aiming for, a 19 Foot longboat and 25 foot pinnace. Just need to get started now!

First Completed Build: San Francisco (Original Version)

Current build: Victory Models HMS Pegasus

Cross Stitch Project (Finished): Battle Of Agamemnon and Ca Ira

Cross Stitch Project : Victory & Temeraire

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Look on the site:

 

https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!cbrowse

 

then search '26 foot pinnace plan' and '19 foot longboat plan'.

 

You can download the plan, then re-size it using the scale on the plan to fit your scale.

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On 10/14/2019 at 11:04 PM, druxey said:

Look on the site:

 

https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!cbrowse

 

then search '26 foot pinnace plan' and '19 foot longboat plan'.

 

You can download the plan, then re-size it using the scale on the plan to fit your scale.

Thanks Druxey, I will bookmark that site.

First Completed Build: San Francisco (Original Version)

Current build: Victory Models HMS Pegasus

Cross Stitch Project (Finished): Battle Of Agamemnon and Ca Ira

Cross Stitch Project : Victory & Temeraire

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good morning Druxey

I picked your link, copy and pasted each search and hit enter and got nothing.

There must be an extra step.

help?

Alan

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Same problem.  However, simply typing pinnace, the first item is a 28 ft. pinnace and by typing longboat, a 20 ft. longboat is halfway down the page.

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This should narrow it down a bit:

 

Pinnace plans

 

If you don't type in a precise match, you can get a lot of extra clutter or nothing at all..

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ah

it works

also seems you shouldn't copy and paste 

Alan O'Neill
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Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

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