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Posted (edited)

Wonderful ship and beautiful Build. I envy you savoring the satisfaction of a job completed to perfection.

 

Now, what will you build next? Hopefully something at the same scale.

 

Yves

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Posted

Ken,

 

your rig is giving the model a wonderful sense of character.  It indeed is a beautiful model.

 

Current Builds:  Revell 1:96 Thermopylae Restoration

                           Revell 1:96 Constitution COMPLETED

                           Aeropiccola HMS Endeavor IN ORDINARY

Planned Builds: Scientific Sea Witch

                            Marine Models USF Essex

                            

 

Posted

I just want to wish everybody Happy Holidays and enjoyable and successful modeling in 2015.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

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Posted

Ken, I'm rigging the yards as much as possible while they are off the ship. I'd like to add the truss now so long as it is a simplified truss like the one used for Syren. Did you use a simplified truss (that just wraps around the mast) for FA? Also, did you run a tye from the lower yards in addition to the sling? Finally, I notice in Lee's that there are two double blocks stropped to the lower main yards above the sling cleats. Do you know for what purpose those might be used? Did you add them? Thanks much! Ed

<p>EdatWycliffe

 

Current Build:

US Brig Syren

 

Prior Builds:

MS kit Phantom

MS kit Fair American

Posted

Hey Ed.  Hope you are enjoying the holiday season.

As to my rigging of the lower yards:  I tried to follow the FA plans as much as possible - i.e. as much as I could comprehend.

So, my trusses were rigged exactly as shown on page 34, lower right corner, of the instruction manual.  I did make a change by rigging the sling from the cap as shown in Petersson on his page 34.  The truss rigging is also shown on Petersson's page 36.  I did not attach jeers. Other than that, I don't know what tye from the lower yards you refer to.  As for the "two double blocks stropped to the lower main yards above the sling cleats", I don't know what you mean there either.  There are double blocks used for jeers, but, as I said, I didn't add jeers.  There are two pairs of double blocks stropped to the tops above the sling cleats for the bunt lines and leech lines.  Perhaps these are what you're referring to.

Don't know if this explanation  helps.

Happy Holidays.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

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Posted

That helps a lot, Ken. I keep forgetting--when in doubt, revert to the instructions. Thanks as always. Enjoy the holidays! I'm in Orlando now with the GC. So, the shipyard is closed until just after the holiday. Still, it's a lot of fun just thinking through the next steps.

<p>EdatWycliffe

 

Current Build:

US Brig Syren

 

Prior Builds:

MS kit Phantom

MS kit Fair American

Posted

Ken and Ed -

Merry Christmas!  I have been following your dialogue and have a suggestion that may help Ed.  I am also into rigging and struggling with rigging and block placement.  I study Kens's and Bob's build log, the plans, and etc but then can't quite remember everything.  I found that I can use Sheet 2 of the plans - the mast and spar diagrams - to make notes on the location and size/type of block that needs to be attached.  Then as I am working attaching the blocks etc I can refer to Sheet 2.  I am finding it big help and hope that you might as well.

 

<<Gary>>

 

p.s.  Ken, your "Fair American" will be treasured by your son and his descendants for generations to come.  It is beautiful.

current build: SYREN

nearly done:  Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham

future builds:  Emma C. Berry

completed builds:  Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana

Posted

Ed and Gary:

Here is my method of determining the size of lines and their blocks:

I use the Syren documentation.  Since the Syren is a 1:64 scale ship and the FA is 1:48, I use a line that is one size bigger than the Syren doc. states.  i.e. if the line on the Syren is .012 then I use .018;  if the Syren is .008, then I use .012, etc.  

For blocks, if the line is .012 then I use a 1/8 block.  For .018, I use 5/32.  For .025 I use 3/16.  That seems to look right and has worked so far.

I use both line and blocks from Syren.

Happy Holidays and happy modeling.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Ken

As we say down here, your work looks sh*t hot. That rig and furled sails combo is amazing. I look forward to seeing your new ventures in 2015. Have a good one - Christmas and new year that is coming.

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - 

On Hold - HMS Fly by aliluke - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

Posted

Thanks, Ken. Your suggestion regarding lines and blocks is precisely the plan I've adopted. (Actually, it was essentially your advice months ago.) Gary, I also made a copy of sheet 2 and use it for notes. Today I took a grandson (age 6) on Space Mountain and Thunder Mountain--he was fearless; I was wondering whether I'd ever see the shipyard again! Best regards. Ed

<p>EdatWycliffe

 

Current Build:

US Brig Syren

 

Prior Builds:

MS kit Phantom

MS kit Fair American

Posted

Ed:  There is nothing like grand kids to re-awaken memories of how fearless you once were.

Happy Holidays to all.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

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Posted

Same best wishes to you and yours, Ken.

 

Say, if I may, could I ask the width of the model as she stands now with the yards in place?  I'm trying to determine case size if I decide to build her.

Thanks in advance.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Posted

Hey Augie: 

The length from the tip of the bow sprint to the end of the boom is 28 inches.  The lower main course is 12.5 inches and the height not counting any stand is 23.5 inches.

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Cheers

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

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Posted

I was able to get some time in the shipyard today so I took the best photos I could of the ‘mess’ of lines and blocks under the tops (as requested by GaryKap).  I don’t know if this will help anyone because I feel that it looks just like the photos included in the instruction booklet.  My photos are in color, of course.

 

The foremast top looking aft:
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The mainmast top looking forward:

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The mainmast top looking aft:

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The boat as seen from the dock:

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Now it's on to the spritsail.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

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Posted

Great pix, Ken. Not much time in the shipyard lately--sleeping 7 extra for the holidays. But I did get a little time doing off-ship rigging of the main lower yard. Will try to get a picture attached soon. I've decided to leave all yards bright. Hope it looks OK. Best for the New Year to all! Ed

<p>EdatWycliffe

 

Current Build:

US Brig Syren

 

Prior Builds:

MS kit Phantom

MS kit Fair American

Posted

Ken,

 

beautiful shots of your work on rigging and tops, Looks very realistic to me....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

Ken -

Thank you for taking the time to add the photos looking under the tops.  They are MUCH better than the instruction booklet - larger, clearer, and in color.  They will be of help to me in doing my rigging...and I need all the help I can get.

 

<<Gary>>

current build: SYREN

nearly done:  Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham

future builds:  Emma C. Berry

completed builds:  Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana

Posted

Ken,

Excellent work and photography. "The boat as seen from the dock" photo is definitely a winner. It has that "sunrise through the rigging" look to it.

Thank you for taking time to share your work on MSW.

"It ain't gonna be no masterpiece so get on with it." ~ DeAnne Malpas, Professor of British History

 

Regards,

Len

Current build: La Belle Poule 1932 - Dusek 1:50

Posted

Happy New Year!

Thanks for all the nice comments and for all the 'likes'.  I'm glad the photos may be of help to someone.

Cheers.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

That last shot in your post is amazing Ken. A blue sky behind it and it could be the real thing. Congratulations on your model - finished yet or not. It is a stunner. Happy new year! And I look forward to your next project whatever it is.

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - 

On Hold - HMS Fly by aliluke - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi Ken - Thank you for posting this.  I am approaching this stage in my Fair American build, and will also need to deal with it one way or the other.  One alternative that I used on my Rattlesnake build was to strop the blocks with black thread and simply tie them to the eyebolts, because I was having the same problems with 28 gauge wire.  I'll probably get "dissed" for even suggesting this, but it doesn't look bad and preserves one's sanity.  As we said earlier, it depends on who you are building the model for...

 

One other thought.  Take a look at the sketch of the gun carriage rigging on page 21 of the instructions.  Seems to me that the outhaul tackle eyebolts are attached to the bulwarks on a wider spacing from the gunports than the breech line eyebolts.  It looks like you have both eyebolts close to the edge of the gunport.  For the model, a wider separation of the outhaul tackle eyebolts would provide more spacing between the blocks on each side of the carriage and might approve the appearance.  You have only done the two guns, so this would be an easy modification.  Maybe others can comment on this.

 

You are doing great work and I certainly appreciate your sharing it on this build log.  Keep it coming!

 

<<Gary>>

Hi Gary,

I am at the stage of installing cannons. I used blackened picture frame wire for stropping the blocks. The wire is very soft, I used only one strand at a time, stretched it smooth and blackened. Worked well on the 3/32 blocks.

Posted

Hey Victorpapa.  If you want to see Gary's progress on his FA build, you can access Gary's build log at:

     http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4927-fair-american-by-garykap-model-shipways-scale-148/?hl=%2Bfair+%2Bamerican

Cheers

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Its back to the ship yard for what I hope will be a good 2015.  I mounted the spritsail and rigged it with no problems.  I also made and lashed the anchor as well as its buoys.  The only problem I had was that I wish I hadn’t permanently belayed and glued the main course tack lines and the fore course sheets before running the anchor cable along the deck to the main hatch.


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Next is to try and make a stern lantern using the Syren Ship Model company kit.  I can’t believe how small all the pieces are.  I’m using the 1:64 lantern since its size corresponds to the rigging sheet of the FA plans.

 

post-912-0-36005600-1421199588_thumb.jpg

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

The stern lantern wasn’t as bad as I thought as I feared.  It was installed along with the flag(s) and the display stand.  I think the lantern adds to the overall look of the model. 

That completes the model after 19 months of pleasure.


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Some photos of the completed model:

 

post-912-0-25894300-1421365310_thumb.jpg

 

post-912-0-56207700-1421365384_thumb.jpg  post-912-0-74734400-1421365475_thumb.jpg

 

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Completed Builds:

Pilot Boat Mary  (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build)

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Posted

Well done...a beautiful job!  Thanks once more for sharing your thoughts and photos through the process.  You have helped a bunch of current and future "Fair American" ship builders.

 

Now what's next?

 

<<Gary>>

current build: SYREN

nearly done:  Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham

future builds:  Emma C. Berry

completed builds:  Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana

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