JohnN Posted January 19, 2021 Author #31 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Cleanup of the bow and stern is (mostly) completed. I may spend a bit more time working these areas. I did use some filler to close gaps I am also working on the rudder and rudder mounts, more on those in a separate post. Bow Stern Edited January 20, 2021 by JohnN Cathead, CiscoH, Duanelaker and 1 other 4 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
Louie da fly Posted January 21, 2021 #32 Posted January 21, 2021 That's nice work, John. Yes, I can see a little more work is needed at bow and stern, but the planking (a very difficult task to get right) is very good and I'm sure you'll end up with something very attractive and worthwhile. Steven Cathead 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
JohnN Posted January 27, 2021 Author #33 Posted January 27, 2021 I have decent progress on the rudder and rudder mount, although the mount is quite tedious and not particularly well designed. I have installed the four frame tops (parts 29 and 35). I feel this was the proper order, as they add nothing to the hull shape, and might have been problematic as no reference is readily available for good installation earlier in construction. I have also made a start on the main mast, which requires quite a bit of material to be removed, and will thus take some time to shape. Louie da fly 1 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
JohnN Posted January 28, 2021 Author #34 Posted January 28, 2021 Have most of main mast shaping completed, the step at the top and final sanding remain. Louie da fly 1 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
Louie da fly Posted January 29, 2021 #35 Posted January 29, 2021 Photos! We need PHOTOS! Cathead 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
JohnN Posted February 10, 2021 Author #36 Posted February 10, 2021 Photos of main mast finished and test fitted. Lots of life in progress presently, which has slowed progress. Cathead, Balclutha75, Louie da fly and 1 other 4 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
Louie da fly Posted February 11, 2021 #37 Posted February 11, 2021 That is just so beautiful. Something to be justly proud of. Steven Cathead 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
JohnN Posted February 15, 2021 Author #38 Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) Main mast is permanently installed and rigging has started. Photos Real Soon Now ... (edit, delivered) 🤣 The mast required a slight bit of diameter reduction at the base as well as slight flattening towards the bow, as one of the frames impinged on the mast mount. Easily remedied, but I did not notice when dry fitting. The mast was near perfectly positioned once these adjustments were applied. The fore stay is completed. Edited February 15, 2021 by JohnN Cathead, Duanelaker, Louie da fly and 2 others 5 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
JohnN Posted February 19, 2021 Author #39 Posted February 19, 2021 Bit more progress, most of shrouds (backstays ?) installed. One pair yet to complete Duanelaker, BobG, oneslim and 2 others 5 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
JohnN Posted February 20, 2021 Author #40 Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Finished first step of rigging. It would have been quite helpful if the instructions included approximate lengths for the various components, as well as more text describing a suggested process. I neglected to account for the stacking at the top of the main mast when cutting rough lengths, which added to the overall fun of this step. A couple of the stays appear slightly wonky in the photos, but did not appear so to my eye. I presumed the forestay was first, based on the instruction illustrations, then noticed @Daryl's build log (1:72 Viking Knarr) where he ran the forestay last. 🙀 Debating whether to use the sail. As I ponder, on to the yard. Edited February 20, 2021 by JohnN Ron Burns, Cathead and Louie da fly 3 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
JohnN Posted February 27, 2021 Author #41 Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Yard installed as well as associated rigging. A couple hours of tidying and I think I will call this project finished. I might experiment with the sail, but, even if I do, I will not install on the model. Will summarize in a post or two. Thinking about the next project. Perhaps MS's Lobster Smack, but, the build log here and an unconvincing reply from MS customer support regarding addressing some of the major documented issues have me considering other kits. All suggestions are most welcome. Edited February 27, 2021 by JohnN ccoyle, Louie da fly, James H and 1 other 3 1 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
Louie da fly Posted February 28, 2021 #42 Posted February 28, 2021 A beautiful result, John! Steven Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
James H Posted February 28, 2021 #43 Posted February 28, 2021 THAT is superb! What a great shape and clean finish. Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
JohnN Posted March 11, 2021 Author #44 Posted March 11, 2021 Installed the rudder, finally, and I declare this model finished. See last photos at end of post. Summary: Overall, a satisfying project. Reasonable price for an entertaining build, a good value. For me, the choice of the 1/35th scale was correct, given my skill level and preference for larger scales. Positives: Reasonable increase in build complexity from MS Pram Good quality materials Supplied planking material installed without excessive fuss Rigging worked better than anticipated A presentable, attractive result, IMHO Improvements: Instructions are minimal, and for my skill level, lacked detail. Lots of time spent pondering build steps given above Plywood material had lots of tarry residue, sanding was laborious Largest rigging size was insufficient to complete work Mast rigging seemed to lack realism. Perhaps a trade-off for reduction of complexity. Blocks replaced with aftermarket parts. Fit of some frames required a lot of adjustments Some frames likely installed reversed, discovered when fairing for planking. Chuck Seiler, Cathead, oneslim and 3 others 6 Quote In Progress: Completed: Knarr 1:35 MS Norwegian Pram 1:12 MS Grand Banks Dory 1:24
Chuck Seiler Posted March 11, 2021 #45 Posted March 11, 2021 I'm late to the party. Louie da Fly ate all the popcorn. Very nice build! What is next? I know of a good cog kit. Louie da fly and Blackreed 1 1 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop
Cathead Posted March 11, 2021 #46 Posted March 11, 2021 Congratulations! She looks lovely and I enjoyed following your work. Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
Balclutha75 Posted March 11, 2021 #47 Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Cathead said: She looks lovely and I enjoyed following your work. Ditto that. She's a beauty! Blackreed 1 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted August 9, 2021 #49 Posted August 9, 2021 Congratulations! Well done! Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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