Roberts Orca Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share #31 Posted January 11, 2021 I have 1 deck board in place. I'm trying to find out how many beams ran under this deck. I would like to apply the boards similarly to the way they actually were on the real ship. Any advice is welcome, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share #32 Posted January 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Roberts Orca said: I have 1 deck board in place. I'm trying to find out how many beams ran under this deck. I would like to apply the boards similarly to the way they actually were on the real ship. Any advice is welcome, thanks. I just ordered "Anatomy of the ship victory" I believe it will prove helpful. I've played around with some finishing techniques for the deck boards. I'm going to lightly sand each plank prior to gluing in place. I'm also going to darken the edges with charcoal to simulate the caulking. Then after all the boards are installed, I'm going to go over the entire deck with a wash coat of antique white stain. This will give the deck a sun bleached look. Then after the antique white stain has dried overnight, I'm going back over all of it again with a walnut wash. This won't darken the deck. What it will do is deposit dark color in every nook and cranny. I tested this on some sample pieces. I really liked what I saw. Soon as I can figure out the deck layout, I'll send pictures. Have a great day. 🙂 Eugenio Treviño 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share #33 Posted January 11, 2021 While I'm waiting on a book in the mail, I decided to work on some custom hull planking clamps. Because of the thinness of the bulkheads, I don't want to push a bunch of pins or nails into it. And I don't want to split any of the planks. So I came up with this idea. It's made from 2 pieces of 1/4" plywood that are glued to a piece of Alder. Glued to the inside walls are 80 grit sandpaper, which will help hold it secure when the spring clamp is applied. At the end of the Alder I threaded it to accept a 4/40 size machine screw. So the important measurement here is the width of the Alder. First I glued the sandpaper to the plywood. Then place them on both sides of a bulkhead. Then I carefully measure the gap in between the two and add about a half millimeter. This gives me the thickness of the Alder. CA glued it all together and it simply slides over any bulkhead. Apply a small spring clamp and it's good and snug. Now when I glue one plank to another one, I can slide this clamp right up against the strip I'm trying to glue. Apply the spring clamp and then with a screwdriver I can gently apply enough pressure to hold the strip firmly to the bulkheads. I'll probably insert a small felt pad between the screw and the strip so as not to leave an indentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share #34 Posted January 11, 2021 Now I'm going to make about 22 of them. An important note. The screw always applies pressure in the center of the bulkhead. So even at the bow or stern areas where the bulkheads have a steep slope, it will push the plank flat against the angle set. And I'll probably round off the screws and use the felt pads every time. Eugenio Treviño 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share #35 Posted January 15, 2021 I'm so excited!! My book came in the mail today. What a gold mine. I don't expect my ship to be an exact replica, but it sure is fun trying. If you're building a Victory, I can't say enough about how great this book is. Sheerline and Rob S 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share #36 Posted January 15, 2021 Now I can resume my build. I'll be putting down some more deck boards. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #37 Posted January 16, 2021 My first decking job. Seeing how I've never done this before, I'm not disappointed with the way it's turning out. I had some trouble figuring out the plank sequence. So this is my practice deck. 😊 Dean77, Sheerline and CiscoH 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #38 Posted January 16, 2021 And here's a few more deck boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #39 Posted January 16, 2021 The decking on the starboard side has been lightly sanded. I had to stop, I was going cross eyed. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #40 Posted January 16, 2021 My first deck job. I'm ok with it. Practice makes perfect right? bruce d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #41 Posted January 16, 2021 I used a wash of this "Unbleached" Varathane stain. I like the looks of that. Then I used an awl to put the look of tree nails. After that a wash of dark walnut stain. Really brought out the details. I like the rugged look, but if I had to do it over, I think I would have stopped with the sun bleached stain. It's just a little bit darker than I wanted it. Helli, bruce d, CiscoH and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugenio Treviño Posted January 16, 2021 Share #42 Posted January 16, 2021 Robert it looks really great. Excellent work!!! Helli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share #43 Posted January 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Eugenio Treviño said: Robert it looks really great. Excellent work!!! Thanks Eugenio. I really appreciate the compliment. I'm actually thinking of trying to lighten it up, and make the nail spots less noticeable. I might sand on it to brighten it up. Not a whole lot of this deck actually shows, so I'm glad I'm figuring things out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 17, 2021 Author Share #44 Posted January 17, 2021 So after much deliberation I decided that I needed to redo my first deck. The tree nail attempt just didn't do it for me. I learned from my experience with oil painting that "less is more". In other words, just because you know something is there, doesn't mean you have to put it there. Here's some pictures of my redo. Thanks for stopping by. Robert bruce d and Sheerline 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share #45 Posted January 18, 2021 Half way there. I'm curious what other builders are using to seal their decks with. I'm considering using tung oil. If rubbed out properly, it leaves the surface matte to satin. Brings out the beauty of the wood. Any and all comments are welcome. Thanks for stopping by. Robert. CiscoH, ccoyle, Dean77 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share #46 Posted January 19, 2021 About 3/4 of the way now. Did some sanding on what is already down. I think I like this look. bruce d, Helli, Eugenio Treviño and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share #47 Posted January 20, 2021 I'm finished planking my first deck for the second time. Really glad I did. Then I sealed it with a light coat of tung oil. Buffed it dry. It has a real nice glow. bruce d, Zarkon, Eugenio Treviño and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helli Posted January 20, 2021 Share #48 Posted January 20, 2021 Hello, It´s looking great.👍👍👍 Helli Roberts Orca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share #49 Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Helli said: Hello, It´s looking great.👍👍👍 Helli Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I hope I can make my ship as beautiful as yours. I really enjoy seeing your build. Cheers.😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share #50 Posted January 21, 2021 Spent a little time playing on my new deck. Built my first companion way ladder. This 1:98 makes for some tiny pieces. Helli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #51 Posted January 25, 2021 Playing on the deck is fun, but I must move on to the hull. Spent some time fairing it in. Also rough sanded some filler blocks for the bow. They still need a lot of shaping. Also added a filler strip on bulkhead #5 port side. Here's some pictures. Have a great day. Robert. Dean77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #52 Posted January 25, 2021 Stern filler blocks will get glued in next. Then more shaping. She's starting to take shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugenio Treviño Posted January 25, 2021 Share #53 Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Roberts Orca said: Stern filler blocks will get glued in next. Then more shaping. She's starting to take shape. Robert: Take special care with the stern fillers. Corel’s plans show you must sand out half of them. I did it that way and as you noticed in my blog, that turned out into an incorrect shape of the hull on the stern side (they needed much more sanding). Check how much you need to sand out in order to get a more gentle curvature specially on the lower part closer to the keel. Keep up the good work !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share #54 Posted January 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Eugenio Treviño said: Robert: Take special care with the stern fillers. Corel’s plans show you must sand out half of them. I did it that way and as you noticed in my blog, that turned out into an incorrect shape of the hull on the stern side (they needed much more sanding). Check how much you need to sand out in order to get a more gentle curvature specially on the lower part closer to the keel. Keep up the good work !!! Thank you so much Eugenio for the heads up. When taking a real close look at the proper form of the hull, especially at the stern, there really isn't much room for the filler blocks they provided. I'll have to work this area quite a bit. Thank you again. Best regards, Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share #55 Posted January 31, 2021 Still fairing in the hull. This is a tedious process. I believe that I have the bow filler blocks shaped in nicely. Test fitting a flexible board shows good alignment. Glued in the stern filler blocks. They will require a lot of shaping. Sheerline and Eugenio Treviño 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob S Posted January 31, 2021 Share #56 Posted January 31, 2021 Looks good Robert! The deck staining turned out very well. As you get into planking, you may want to consider sanding down the forward and rear facing corners of your forward and aft bulkheads, respectively. This provides more bulkhead surface for your planks to adhere to rather than just the bulkhead edge. This is especially truce in the more forward and aft bulkheads. Helli and Roberts Orca 2 Quote Rob active projects: HMS Victory, Mamoli 1/90 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share #57 Posted January 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Rob S said: Looks good Robert! The deck staining turned out very well. As you get into planking, you may want to consider sanding down the forward and rear facing corners of your forward and aft bulkheads, respectively. This provides more bulkhead surface for your planks to adhere to rather than just the bulkhead edge. This is especially truce in the more forward and aft bulkheads. Thanks so much Rob. You're so right about changing the angle of the bulkheads. I'm discovering that the fairing in process is a slow journey. I am looking forward to the planking. I'm getting excited to see the hull take shape. Thank you for your input. Best regards, Robert. Helli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helli Posted January 31, 2021 Share #58 Posted January 31, 2021 Hello, I´m already looking forward to the progress. Helli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberts Orca Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share #59 Posted February 1, 2021 The stern filler blocks have been shaped to the hull. So glad my wife bought me that dremel tool 🙂 Before I can do any hull planking, I need to get the next deck in place. And before I can do that, I need to put the other companion way ladder and grate in. So I built and installed the tiny ladder. Put in the grating and trim. Put a little tung oil on it, I think I'm ready to put in the deck beams. Here's some photos. Best regards, Robert Eugenio Treviño, Robert29, JeffT and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted February 1, 2021 Share #60 Posted February 1, 2021 The planking looks neat and clean. Roberts Orca 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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