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Very nice test, Bob. You are reading my mind, again when I think about further steps. 

 

What do you think about little "add" to spice this little beast a while ? 

 

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If my draw is not understand, tell me to draw better

 

N

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CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Hello, Nenad;  good to hear from you...

 

I've been thinking about the "add" (sheave) but their fabrication is beyond my means;  (I've tried!)   However, I could possibly simulate this by drilling a hole through the whole assembly and inserting a 1/8" dowel;  but I have a feeling it would disintegrate the structure...  I may also try finding a punch for aluminum that might get me there...  We shall see...

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if you can drill a hole for a small piece of dowel, you can accomplish the same thing, as Nenad shows

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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you got me........your quicker on the post than I was! :D :D slide a thin piece of wood through the gaps......might do the trick ;)

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I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Thanks for the input, gentlemen;  I would really like to incorporate actual round sheaves in this model;  however, it's going to be a long search unless a supplier makes them,  or I get some divine inspiration :cheers:

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We obviously like to torture your brain ... ;)  :P  :D   

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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just caught up on your log - i missed so much, it was nice to catch up

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Thanks for looking in Kevin;  I haven't checked your log for awhile because I get too distracted as it is with my two builds, and I think:  (hmmm.  Bismark;  can I squeeze this in..?)

 

Maybe if I live to be 180 yrs.

 

Bob

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Ha! Keith,  You sparked some good old memories for me... :D

 

My father was a model railroader who had a lathe many years before I was born...  In high school, when I did plastic models, I did the Pocher Mercedes, with about 150 parts for each wheel.  I was lazy back then, and paid Dad (retired) $5 to file out the metal rings for the wheels, which he happily did.

 

So I was just wishing Dad was here to make these things...  Brother-in-law has the lathe; but I don't have the room for it yet..

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Bismark ?

 

You really need to add two or three life-time

 

I vote for CS  :angry:

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Challenge ... in my scale, this can be 3,4 max 4mm 

 

With 3 functional lathes ?

 

Huh

 

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Nenad; 

 

Fair warning ahead of time on the catheads;

 

Mr. C's plans Do Not agree in this area!  His enlarged details on the cats just to the right of your above posted area on the plans will not match up with each other...  This is the biggest (and only) discrepancy I've found yet with Campbell's plans.

 

These copies are from the same plan sheet.  On the left, 3/32" = 1' enlarged by 166.667% for my scale;  On the right, 1/8" = 1' enlarged by 125.000% to also match my scale.

 

Notice how they are much narrower on my plan cutout on the left...   their length (without whisker booms) is 38 mm on the left plans, and 36 mm on the right plans.  (narrower and longer, vs. wider and shorter... obviously not a scaling issue)  and I double, triple, and quadruple checked my plan scaling...

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... So here's where I'm at;  test fitting these bulwark "augmentation strips" , trying to get the ovals actually "oval"  ..  Main rail needs final sanding and staining;  The whole deck needs cleaning and touching up;  the debris is quite evident in these photos.  Not alot of noticeable change, but at least I'm working on the build faithfully again...

 

~Bob

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Very sweet it looks, Bob. Don`t let macro photos to discourage you. Look from distance, and you`ll get clear and right picture of your excellent work

 

I am glad that you are moving on, and waiting to see cat-head tests (I am curious, that stage is waiting for me, and I enjoy in collecting ideas until that time). So, get those tests !  

 

BTW, I missed your making of mooring pipes ... little explanation ?

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Thanks, Nenad;

I will be fiddling with these "strips" for awhile before affixing them.  The first strip in the port bow area, has fifteen panels.  I think I'm satisfied with one out of the fifteen.

 

I believe I posted tests earlier with the mooring pipes;  they should be oval, but I gave up an am using brass airports from ModelExpo.  I tried using a ring; but after putting it into the bulwarks, it looks ok.

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Thanks for all the nice words of encouragement, my friends;

 

Most all of the eyebolts on this ship will be scratch built;  one of the things that nagged me about my Revell Cutty that I assembled at age 14 or 16 was the cumbersome, out of scale plastic eyebolts; most  either melted with the plastic cement, or broke when rigging.  (I didn't know about scratch building at that time)  So even before I laid the keel of this build, I practiced making eyebolts from twisting 30 gauge wire around a broken 0.8 mm drill bit.  Continuing with my cathead testing, I surrounded the distal end with an "iron" (aluminum can) band with an eyebolt for the fore tack block....  (Still haven't figured out the sheaves yet.)

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Huh,Bob, this look good !!!

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Maybe this picture can be useful ? Angles, details, etc etc ... 

 

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Ok, going back to the endless fitting of the inside bulwark embellishment strip...

 

Yikes!  Big error!  The main rail on the starboard aft side, between the main and mizzen areas, dips WAY down before going back up to meet the rail at the poop deck.  This error would originally have been made when I affixed the hidden "stanchion rails"; as the main rail follows this rail.  (You can even see my exposed pencil mark...  how did I not catch this 6 weeks ago??  Can't see the forest through the trees...)

 

 

 

 

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So, pondering my options:

 

1)  Ignore it.  Bend the embellishment strips to follow the curve;  (Then bend the topgallant rail, etc. etc.)

 

2) Fix it.  Tear out the whole area, probably destroying 14 + cm of bulwarks, stanchions, riveting detail, rails, etc. etc.

 

I don't think so...

 

Bingo!

 

3) Hide it!  I will take a 1/32" strip of basswood, feather both ends, and laminate it to the dipping portion of the existing rail,  feathering it into place and re-drilling holes...  This will ultimately give me a thicker rail in this area, but after some shaping, the thickness should be hidden mostly underneath the rail itself...  I'll let you know how it goes, but I think this is enough excitement for me this evening.

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My fault Bob, not yours. I infected you with the rashness ...  :cheers:

 

Nice fix. It would not be visible at all. I decided to live with much bigger mistakes on inside bulwarks, so, go on in excellent work

 

Nenad

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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Thanks, Keith and Nenad;  It's not fixed yet, just a rough piece test fitted.  We'll see tomorrow if it works.  After tomorrow, I have two days off of work;  hope to get these white panels (embellishment strips) installed...  Cathead prototyping is also a challenge because of so many conflicting points of view.  Even Campbell's plans don't agree completely from port to starboard!  I plan to install catheads before I mount my topgallent rail.  Once the topgallent rail is installed, I feel many variables will be resolved finally, as the hull will be mostly complete..  I can then move on to the outside detailing (freeing port covers, rudder, rubbing strakes, etc. or the deckhouses, spars, pumps ( I have no idea...)   Sometime during all this I'll have to learn actual metalwork fabrication (not aluminum cans cut out with scissors and glued with cyano)  and make a modest to substantial investment in tools, materials, time, and experimentation. 

 

Fun hobby, or insanity?...   A little bit of both, I think.  That's what gives it the extra fun!  :10_1_10:

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Bob, see Shipaholics topic ... and welcome to Club ..

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/474-therapy-for-shipaholics/#entry5142

 

I agree, extra fun with elements of infatuation and obsession

 

First symptom ( presented in my case) is ... first thing in the morning when get up and start to drink morning coffee is to take a cellphone and visit MSW and see what are new posts ...

 

:)  :(  :P

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In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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